I'd like to switch to the .40's for everyday use in all my AEG's and GBB's - seems like a solid thing to do, especially if I'm going to see a range increase at full hop!

And thats exactly the thought I had when I saw them too, people are gonna think I'm rooking them - but most people who know me should know better. I maintained from the start this is a test batch and only will be reordered if YOU guys ask me to do it. Frankly higher weight BBs have a lower profit margin and you can't move the volume - its really a service thing for me - I want to be able to sell you all your BB needs in one order - so if I have to stock it to give you complete service, I will - PROVIDED the product is good. The jury is still out on that at the moment although the .36g look promising.

Ok, ran more tests through my M24, still interesting. Bold are high and low of each string.

0.36g Bastards

406.4
407.8
397.8
400.1
408.9
406.9
406.8
403.0
408.0
392.3

0.36g Straights

401.4
369.2
369.4
370.7
403.8
398.6
360.8
399.6
404.3
402.2

Just for clarity, I didn't clean my barrel at all, ran the 0.20g BB Bastards through it again.

0.20g Bastards

501.6
497.1
502.3
500.9
498.7
502.0
503.1
499.2
498.6
509.3

0.40g Bastards

381.8
379.9
377.2
382.8
383.9
379.0
381.4
382.3
379.8
381.8

Ok, the more data I see the better the .36's look.

Order incoming, better get some to test before they are gone.

Am just about done doing some more target shooting (hadn't done with the 0.36g Straights before, surprisingly they behaved well for a group), so 0.36g Straights, 0.36g Bastards, 0.40g Bastards, figured I'd let loose my very small stash of 0.43g Straights................... and maybe follow up with some 0.30g Bastards. Also have been swabbing the barrel with a dry patch each time, plan to take a pic of them, but one thing to consider is I had cleaned my barrel before with a patch, dry, and this was after a good 50-100 shots, it came out dirty, I should have clenaed it more and made the patch come out clean first, then tested. Oh well, guess I should do that again, woh is me, more shooting! ;)

My thread, new post. :D

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NOTE: 30ft distance, bench rested CA M24, Straight BBs have the graphite washed off, Bastards are fresh out of the bag.

Ok, had a chance to send a few 0.36g and 0.40g BBs downrange last weekend (as well as a couple dozen .308 rounds) and while I didn't get too many 0.40g BBs off, I found the 0.36g BBs, with full hop up on my M24 (have it set up for around 430fps w/.20g in fairness of others that have to abide by the 450fps max rule......... me included now), at an aimed dead on distance (set at 30ft, has served me well in the past up to 0.30g BBs), the 0.36g Bastards would hit about a foot to a foot and a half low at a measured 138ft. But at least they were relatively consistantly hitting low like that. So this weekend I'll have to spend my time as CO of the Green team, on the radio barking orders and dialing in my M24 for 200ft if I can, likely have to settle for 150ft and shoot with sme elevation offset like normal shooters have to deal with.

Anyways, 0.36g is pretty heavy right now, have to game it and 0.30g, add to the review, the try out the 0.40g, but likely they will be not very useful in the <450fps setting, but stand by. I'd still love to see a 0.33g or 0.34g BB out there as consistant as the Bastards. So my 0.40g might end up being Glock 19 ammo for the year.

Got to use some of these at the game on Saturday, really bad conditions, cold, wet, winds gusting 60km/h................ even with full hop up on with my M24, I'd get each of the BB weights dropping hard around 140ft, and I mean literally dropping hard! No amount of elevation from my rifle would get them to go farther.

Am questioning these weights in a rifle shooting under 450fps, wish I had access to other sniper rifles to test these out on. I did swap out the hop up rubber, a KN65 with a hard bucking behind it and put a Guarder clear in there, have to see what it shoots like then. Looks like I also got an airleak, shooting around 400fps now, which is perfect for the game next weekend, 350fps max for AEGs and 400max for sniper rifles. Will be using the 0.30g Bastards there.

Nutshell, am really seeing more of a need for something like a .33g BB, as opposed to heavier. I DO find these to be very consistant though. I'm going to wash the oil off all the BBs and see if I can get a bit more friction from the hop up rubber, this might be the key thing. Will report back in a few weeks after I get a chance to get my rifle back up to ~450fps and get some outdoor shooting done.

hey stalker, are you using the PDI hop up unit?

Ya, I am, and just put a stiffer and thicker O-ring on there to tension the levers down more. Still have three original brass ones here. Haven't really noticed a difference among them all.

if you can use AEG rubber and buckings, try using the Prometheus Hard Red ones.

Their bucking is really responsive and consistant, it should be able to over hop atleast 0.36g

hope that helps

I don't think it's the hopup that's the problem, it's the sheer weight at the FPS he's running.

Agreed. When I shoot .43g BBs out of a 450fps rifle, no amount of hopup will make them fly like a .30g.

The BB just arc nicely. They are easy to place precisely at short distance though.

I washed my .30g and 0.36g in warm soap and water last night, will give me a bit more range, but still, I think 0.36g is too high.

Harder hop up rubber will give more spin =\