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cerealmaniac January 22nd, 2010 03:29

UPS fail
 
bought a rail for my AK in the states and seller sent me this

I called ups n they said that customs denied it and because it did go to Canada I will not b refunded, and I could either resend it and pay another fee but there's no guarentee it will get there again or I can give u a full refund.

heres a pic of the info. i don't even live in BC yet UPS stated that the receiver contacted them?UPS you fail again

http://i48.tinypic.com/30k3yie.png

Drake January 22nd, 2010 03:52

That doesn't like anything that has to do with Customs + I think you just got scammed.

Forever_kaos January 22nd, 2010 03:56

Yeah if it hit B.C it would it not be past the Customs border?

Sounds like a scam as Drake said.

cbcsteve January 22nd, 2010 03:58

Customs would not deny a product

If anything they either do 2 things

1. Hold onto it for the longest time ever by poking and prodding it for the longest up to1-2 months and then send it to you

2. Send you the Seizure Notice about pending decision on your package

But they do not send items back only the postal offices do that

Judging by the message

1. You got scammed by the company (Not UPS) UPS does not make address errors

2. The company who sent it was stupid and put the wrong address and asked for that random person to pay for brokerage fee and of course that random person has no clue what it is and refuses to pay

cerealmaniac January 22nd, 2010 04:00

"No I believe her I ship with her all the time she's a very trusting lady, however the cannot be a refund 1)it did make it to Canada and back and 2) I didn't use actual UPS to send, I used USPS but I went to the UPS store to do so, so if I sent through UPS I would be issued a refund. Confusing?? Sorry
"

this lady doesn't make any sense at all

Rock 'N' Roll Outlaw January 22nd, 2010 04:10

Who did you order from? Check their policy regarding refund. Demand a refund within a certain amount of time (24hours, 48 hours, whatever you feel comfortable with) or you will contact the police.

Drake January 22nd, 2010 04:11

Dude, read what everyone posted. "The lady" scammed your ass. It goes something like this:

1. someone sells you some item
2. ship whatever junk to the wrong address, use UPS so there's brokerage fees etc
3. person at wrong address gets a packaged addressed to someone who doesn't live there/they never heard of, delivery guy wants $$$ to cover brokerage fees, etc. Person at the wrong address refuses the package, cuz wtf? right.
4. bogus package gets returned
5. "the lady" is all sorry can't refund, and lolz to the bank with ur monies (aka PROFIT)

cerealmaniac January 22nd, 2010 04:12

private seller. though i don't think it's a scam. they're been responding to my emails promptly.

Drake January 22nd, 2010 04:16

Well I guess everything is fine then.

cerealmaniac January 22nd, 2010 04:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 1147759)
Well I guess everything is fine then.

we'll see. i just think scammers would run once they get the money.lady probably just put down the wrong address.

Drake January 22nd, 2010 04:24

And BTW, the UPS site does NOT track USPS numbers so if the tracking number works on UPS's site it was sent by UPS. And try running the number on USPS or Canada Post's website, I bet they don't work (they would if it was a USPS number).

So your seller is either huffing and puffing some heavy duty crack or is full of shit.

Smart scammers dont want you coming after them so they'll try and convince you its an honest mistake (or maybe they can get you to send even more money for re-shipping)

Kesslan January 22nd, 2010 11:33

Yeah, I call miss delivery on the seller's part given that it went to BC, or scam with a high likely hood of the latter.

pusangani January 22nd, 2010 13:14

how did you pay? if paypal just open a claim

cerealmaniac January 22nd, 2010 13:23

got this today
"
Hey tim,

This is Hendrix. Sorry for the delay thanks to Canada customs.
I will repack n re label ur items as toy parts. I will eat the shipping. Just to let u know this is not a scam. It's $80 so if I'm gonna scam someone it will be for more. I'm still at shot show in Vegas so when I get back (Monday) I wil take care of this. I just need ur patience here. I actually didn't know this is going to Canada since it was too late or else in wouldn't have taken ur payment. My bad for not checking. I will email u later for
More details

Sent from my iPhone"

guy seems legit. but no paypal claims never cover anything other than ebay auctions. i've bought a "TM" mp5k on here before and it turned out to be a galaxy. i called the seller and he said he can't do anything about it. paypal refused to give me a refund. this was like 2 years back and i lost $450.

baker_Jeff January 22nd, 2010 13:26

I once had a shipment ($1500USD worth of stuff, $200usd shipping) shipped by UPS, it was "refused entry" by "customs", and sent back. I was MIGHTY pissed off. It was nothing to do with the seller. No one even notified me.

Jeff

cerealmaniac January 22nd, 2010 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by baker_Jeff (Post 1147989)
I once had a shipment ($1500USD worth of stuff, $200usd shipping) shipped by UPS, it was "refused entry" by "customs", and sent back. I was MIGHTY pissed off. It was nothing to do with the seller. No one even notified me.

Jeff

what did it say when u check it on the UPS website? and how was it resolved? jw. Thanks jeff

baker_Jeff January 22nd, 2010 13:44

It said "Shipment denied entry". There was nothing restricted btw. It was sent back to the shipper, I had to pay for shipping all over again.

cerealmaniac January 22nd, 2010 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by baker_Jeff (Post 1148005)
It said "Shipment denied entry". There was nothing restricted btw. It was sent back to the shipper, I had to pay for shipping all over again.

same here. it's just a rail...USPS > UPS

Con Murder January 22nd, 2010 16:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by cerealmaniac (Post 1147743)
bought a rail for my AK in the states and seller sent me this

I called ups n they said that customs denied it and because it did go to Canada I will not b refunded, and I could either resend it and pay another fee but there's no guarentee it will get there again or I can give u a full refund.

heres a pic of the info. i don't even live in BC yet UPS stated that the receiver contacted them?UPS you fail again

http://i48.tinypic.com/30k3yie.png

Why was it sent to B.C. if you don't live there?

Styrak January 22nd, 2010 16:38

Another thread showing why you should never use UPS.

Drow January 22nd, 2010 18:35

UPS sucks, 80 dollar duties on 125 dollar boots.

sushicake January 22nd, 2010 20:07

just order off ehobby or ebaybanned they have everything you need and a hell lot more convinient too.

cerealmaniac January 22nd, 2010 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by sushicake (Post 1148235)
just order off ehobby or ebaybanned they have everything you need and a hell lot more convinient too.

lols idk about that. i still have an item thats been on hold for 2+ months now.

Boyso January 22nd, 2010 21:21

I've seen the UPS guy drop one of my items in the stairs, directly in my face. And it was broke.

What's worst than waiting 10-12 days for a package and have it broke, live in your face?

God, I really wanted to throw the guy by the window lol.

StrikeFreedom January 22nd, 2010 21:50

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...-_UPS_Babe.jpg

Ronan January 22nd, 2010 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrikeFreedom (Post 1148311)

Yeah ok... IF only :D

ulldarborealis January 26th, 2010 20:58

the reason it was sent to BC Richmond is that it came thru the boarder to the Vancouver International Airport which is a hub into Canada for UPS

item goes into customs then cleared or returned

if cleared it's given back to UPS and then shipped to you

I would get this all the time with delivers from UPS FedEx into Canada

hope that helps

Crunchmeister January 27th, 2010 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrikeFreedom (Post 1148311)

Quite honestly, even if the delivery chick looked like this, I wouldn't use UPS. However, if she was the one arriving in the package for me, I would use any shipping service in the world regardless of cost or reputation. :D

cerealmaniac January 27th, 2010 02:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by ulldarborealis (Post 1150825)
the reason it was sent to BC Richmond is that it came thru the boarder to the Vancouver International Airport which is a hub into Canada for UPS

item goes into customs then cleared or returned

if cleared it's given back to UPS and then shipped to you

I would get this all the time with delivers from UPS FedEx into Canada

hope that helps

still doesn't explain why UPS says the receiver refused delivery. i'm in Alberta

EagleDriver January 27th, 2010 19:41

If you note, this package never made it out of Anaheim, CA. It looks like the brokerage probably called the addressee. A package that would have gone from Anaheim to BC and back would have had an "origin scan" and then "enroute" and others at the intermediate offload stations. UPS got it at 19:57 on 1/20 and went right back out 1 minute later.

lemegacool January 27th, 2010 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drow (Post 1148174)
UPS sucks, 80 dollar duties on 125 dollar boots.

how about 45$ duties on a 40$ order of brass fittings :D

Moderate January 28th, 2010 11:37

Meh. They charged me $75 brokerage fees on a Walther PPK with 50 rounds of ammo...which I got for free due to a PayPal mix up.

Yes. A gun.

Not sure if that's a UPS Win, or a UPS Fail...

Crunchmeister January 28th, 2010 11:43

$60 in duties + brokerage on a $39.99 US (aoubt $45 Cdn) guitar tuner.

Regardless how you slice it. UPS are always FAIL. Although keeping with the topic of this thread, I do think the OP got scammed and this isn't a UPS related issue. It's just dependent on UPS's extremly high brokerage fee to ensure some product sent to the intentionally wrong address won't get accepted by the recipient. UPS was just used as a tool to perpetrate their scam.

cerealmaniac January 28th, 2010 15:50

have u guys dealt with DHL before? they're alot worse IMO.

Con Murder January 28th, 2010 19:27

Its all about what you need done. Ya UPS and DHL are a scam coming into the country, they get fucked by the government for competing with Canada Post. For a regular hobby purchase its crazy but they serve a business sector that loves them. We get confused by these high rates and (to us) last minute charges but not the guy doing shipping and receiving for any asian car company without a manufacturing plant on continent. He tells his customers that they will have to pay out the ass for special importation of parts not on this continent.
Just my opinion on UPS in general.

vondnik January 28th, 2010 20:08

UPS (stands for ultimate price scam) always fails the good thing is that if you ever received the rail there would have been a 75$ brocker/handling fee on it.....

ALWAYS insist on USPS or purolator anything else and you'll get scammed

kullwarrior February 7th, 2010 23:06

Just an update, I purchase airsoft non-restricted parts and the seller used UPS (even though I said "NO NO NO UPS....I'll use it over my dead body")
It got denied, UPS said its prohibited. My guess is UPS refuse to ship airsoft parts...

Slono February 7th, 2010 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 1159742)
Just an update, I purchase airsoft non-restricted parts and the seller used UPS (even though I said "NO NO NO UPS....I'll use it over my dead body")
It got denied, UPS said its prohibited. My guess is UPS refuse to ship airsoft parts...

That's not true, I had UPS deliver my first redwolf airsoft order to me a while ago in september or something.

cerealmaniac February 8th, 2010 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 1159742)
Just an update, I purchase airsoft non-restricted parts and the seller used UPS (even though I said "NO NO NO UPS....I'll use it over my dead body")
It got denied, UPS said its prohibited. My guess is UPS refuse to ship airsoft parts...

what did you get?

BTW i finally got my package. the seller used an AEG box to store the rail. pretty lame...

cerealmaniac February 8th, 2010 15:54

check this out. got another UPS package today. the delivery location is front door.

http://wwwapps.ups.com/WebTracking/p...040R6877104189

Azathoth February 9th, 2010 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by sushicake (Post 1148235)
just order off ehobby or ebaybanned they have everything you need and a hell lot more convinient too.

No, Won't buy anything from ebairsoft i get my stuff from them for free.


Quote:

Originally Posted by cerealmaniac (Post 1152273)
have u guys dealt with DHL before? they're alot worse IMO.

Their are better if you are shipping large volumes of goods. DHL can't be bothered to deal with your 1 package.


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