KJW M4 vs WE M4/M16 GBBR?

[Rugger_can]

Originally Posted by Rubs

Explain how a KJW breaking off topic?

QFT

I was merely posting the other relevant info as a backdrop for your advice considering that you inadvertently omitted that your rifle had a key part break in a short time of ownership. Even if its a quick fix and is cheap (arguably the SCAR hing plate is both cheap and easy to fix. as well) it still failed within an unacceptable time frame then again your mileage might vary.

In anycase no hard feelings as I said I don't personally know you and thus I cannot judge your maintenance skills, so I will chalk up your experience as bad luck.


And El Cactus Loco's point of lack of availability of aftermarket parts for the KJW is one of the reasons why I chose the WE. Good point and should factor into your decision.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by Amos

Prometheus, Nineball all the FF companies will be making aftermarket parts for the KJ shortly

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+ Parts are EASILY available from KJW

[Rugger_can]

Originally Posted by Amos

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+ Parts are EASILY available from KJW

Touche...


However until aftermarket parts come out the market is still bare save for oem stuff.

[Amos]

The KJ's are designed by Tanio Koboyashi...

The Japanese tuner market tends to favor "home grown" designs (See: TM upgrades vs KSC upgrades)

There's gonna be some pretty cool stuff out in a few months... I just hope KJ buys the designs to the AK74U Mr. Koboyashi was showing off a while ago..

[Rugger_can]

Originally Posted by Amos

The KJ's are designed by Tanio Koboyashi...

The Japanese tuner market tends to favor "home grown" designs (See: TM upgrades vs KSC upgrades)

There's gonna be some pretty cool stuff out in a few months... I just hope KJ buys the designs to the AK74U Mr. Koboyashi was showing off a while ago..

Agreed, My wife absolutely loves the GHK AKS74U GBBR but Im not sold on its merits yet. If KJW/WE made one I'd jump all over it. But I guess thats abit off topic.


In all honesty I will concede that the Mags for KJW are superior by all accounts when properly maintained. And once the aftermarket stuff starts showing up they will be fairly even in terms of reliability.

Time will tell.

[Amos]

Yea.. the GHK system is pretty awful

Bunch of fragile parts built on a pretty crappy base gun...

If you're going GHK you MUST buy the RATECH upgrades otherwise you'll have a nice wall hanger.

[LocoYokoPoco]

Thanks guys, I'm pretty sure I'll go with the KJW now

Now, if only I can find a full metal/black one in the classifieds >.>

[T@NK]

Originally Posted by ex

Actually the Open Bolt system is available now for the PDW and the conversion for the Scar and Armalites is coming very soon.

just checked the open bolt system for WE. they still looks so fake...you will know what I was talking about when you see the spring through the bolt window.

[ex]

I personally like the system as it is now, it works well. I painted the brass tube black..it just disappeared.

[Brian McIlmoyle]

I don't care about the brass tube... in my opinion that flash of brass looks great as the gun cycles.

also .. for me.. it is about performance.. I want a solid gun that works when I need it to.. I don't much care how the internals work.. as long as they do.

If I want the open breach... look.. and feel... I can always go RS .. grab a gun and head to the range.

[sewktbk]

^^fully agreed

stoked with my WE PDW which is basically the same platform as the M4.

Brass tube, like its been reviewd before, actually looks like a bullet entering the chamber. I honestly don't know why people dislike it so much, plus its a very reliable system.

I was at first myself considering a KJW M4, but at that time is was still new to the market and no AM parts existed...plus couldn't come across an all black version in country. and i know the mags are good, but i like the WE mags better for their look (personnal preference, not objective at all)

Have you handled both? you should, handling a gun is without a single doubt the most effective way to know if it's right for you. I was myself asking for advice at first on here, and came to realize that you get half the people to tell you to go for it, and the other half telling you you would be nuts to do so. shopped myself instead, and next thing you know i was going for a PDW, not even an M4. so yeah. go shopping budd.

[brixx]

yeah it depends on how you handle it. I own a KJW until now I'm very satisfied with it.

[Shirley]

It's too bad you will rarely find KJW metal lowers. As for WE metal ones, you can get. That's IF you get the cansoft versions.

[13Fido13]

Lanny, I'll be talking to you tonight about those metal lowers.....