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Old October 14th, 2009, 20:44   #1
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Vehicles in airsoft and milsim

I hope this has not been covered already, but after watching a couple of video's where trucks and pickups where being used I started to wonder how useful they would be in the larger games that are held up in Canada.

I may pick up an nice old Suzuki Samurai / Sidekick and have at her as long as vehicles have any use.

So what are you impressions and views on their utility.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 20:47   #2
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Totally going to build a home made tank of sorts once I buy all the goodies I want lol

I think it'd be pretty cool and useful, field allowing.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 21:04   #3
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been at a few games where trucks were used and worked awsome but makes ya think twice about laying on the road at night knowing there is a truck with a half dozen guys in it 8)

they also work well as mobil respaws and medivac's

Just my opinion dont shoot the driver or hisWindsheild/headlights mind ya the odd one is enevidable
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Old October 14th, 2009, 21:23   #4
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i saw a game were they did a VIP protection scenario with a convoy of cars that was pretty bad ass, and a few other large sale milism events with vehicles involved as well. I think that as long as you have to room to use vehicles it can be a great add on to a game.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 21:29   #5
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i saw a game were they did a VIP protection scenario with a convoy of cars that was pretty bad ass, and a few other large sale milism events with vehicles involved as well. I think that as long as you have to room to use vehicles it can be a great add on to a game.
Size was my main concern. I'm doing research into Mini-SUV's (aka the Suzuki Sidekick). Max it can carry is 4 dudes comfortably and still get around quite well. Mount a M249 on a roll-cage and you have a nice QRF / mobile recce vehicle.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 22:13   #6
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Have you seen that tank made off the chassis of an argo, or gator or whatever? I wanna make that
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Old October 14th, 2009, 22:32   #7
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I like when veh. in milsims are used for logistic and troop transport/medevacs. Not as armored veh.

On a large field, it pay to have a motorised team as QRF or Medevacs. Quickpass game had this in a way, and it was a must.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 23:51   #8
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Hehe oddly enough I bought a 1977 chevy half ton 4x4 with just the intention of using it as a daily driver. But now the truck needs a rebuild.....well so far I plan on painting it desert tan, fabricating up some bumpers and roll cage and go from there. This truck will be perfect for our outdoor games. I will start a build thread as soon as I can get some more cash together and am able to get it to my shop. If anyone has any other ideas post em up and the worst thing I can say is I can't afford that. :P

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Old October 15th, 2009, 12:10   #9
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Vehicles are fun to play with, but offer a variety of challenges. I've seen some excellent use of vehicles that really added to the game (i.e. Claybank), and seen some really poor implementations.

A vehicle specific briefing needs to be given to all players, ensuring that people know who is allowed to drive the vehicle, where it is allowed to drive, and how fast it's allowed to drive. Rules of Engagement need to be discussed, due to the glass. Vehicle destruction rules need to be decided upon.

Whenever done well, they're a hoot and offer some different capabilities to airsoft.

What vehicle destruction rules/ rules of engagement have you guys seen that have worked well?
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Old October 15th, 2009, 13:00   #10
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I've played with a truck involved in Pentiction.

One scenario had the truck as target that Blue had to protect, and Red had to destroy with a RPG gunner. The truck would be rolled up the road as you took ground. The RPG gunner would try to hide from the sweeps and hit the truck after it passed by his location.

Another had it used to move troops up into action as like moving cover.

A night game had the Red team using it as a rolling security patrol. Somehow they got ambushed by the Blue team who seized it and used it to infiltrate the village where the objective was.

It really ratchets up the danger level though, you have to have a very level headed driver who's not going to try and crash a barrier or wind up flipping it with a bunch of passengers in the bed.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 19:07   #11
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yeah Danke has a good point, when we use vehicles we only put trusted players or staff in them (and we dont allow people to go prone anywhere near the road! lol). It gives the RPGs something to shoot with their foamy rounds too lol

That said when used safely vehicles add a whole new level to the games
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Old October 15th, 2009, 19:10   #12
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Would be welcome at Operation "Unfinished Business" next season....
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Old October 15th, 2009, 20:19   #13
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we use a pick up truck on our field for games. it has been very successfully for us. as long as all know what roads are for trucks and that no laying down in the road means at all our any part of you. for us it has worked out being said we have 2-3 designated drivers and they know every hide rabbit hole and dash path, on top of never taking the truck over say 10-12. the truck has been used as an out objective a personnel carrier med wagon transport. it has been used in IED attack and defend scenarios, the limits are not ever in sight. luckily our team has been blessed with players that care more about the safety of everyone involved more than the win. the game can be run again ... but do you really want to run over your team?
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Old October 16th, 2009, 12:24   #14
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I've played with a truck involved in Pentiction.

One scenario had the truck as target that Blue had to protect, and Red had to destroy with a RPG gunner. The truck would be rolled up the road as you took ground. The RPG gunner would try to hide from the sweeps and hit the truck after it passed by his location.

Another had it used to move troops up into action as like moving cover.

A night game had the Red team using it as a rolling security patrol. Somehow they got ambushed by the Blue team who seized it and used it to infiltrate the village where the objective was.

It really ratchets up the danger level though, you have to have a very level headed driver who's not going to try and crash a barrier or wind up flipping it with a bunch of passengers in the bed.
Level headed driver? trusted players and staff?... you guys know it was me that was driving right? :P

Jk jk yah you really REALLY need to be on the look out for other players and whats around you. especially using a vehicle in a night game, fogging up masks, dark, players everywhere.... it can get dangerous.

Also the one that we were using was someones personal vehicle so if that happens on your field make sure they sign a waiver stating that any damage that happens from it being shot and what not is not the responsibility of the field owner.
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Old October 18th, 2009, 08:35   #15
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We used a pick-up and an ATV in our games this summer and it was a lot of fun!

The same pick-up was used in 2 ways depending of the senario. either as a light armored vehicule (we let the side windows open and you can shoot the driver or destroy the trcuk with an RPG) or heavy armored vehicule (we closed the side windows and then you need a RPG to immobilise the vehicule. you need to installe a demo charge to destroy it and an engineer can repair an immobilised vehicule. it then can become an objectif inside the game)

It was fun. I'm planning to build a box to put in the truck bed. The box can carry 4-6 trooper and will have a small turret equiped with a nerf RPG + AEG for support.

It will be fun and won't cost too much. + I get to use the truck on normal days. Just add the box for games.

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