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yuhaoyang October 24th, 2009 23:44

IMO no.
Too many downsides (speaking in terms of pure gaming performance) compared to AEGs. GBBRs will probably become much more widespread, but it won't go far enough to replace AEGs...

theguy October 24th, 2009 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin#1[Op-for] (Post 1091356)
I wonder if in the future, the GBBR will be the new AEG?

For Milsim maybe, but for Skirmish use, You will never be able to build a GBB more practical then an AEG IMO

MoreToasties October 24th, 2009 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin#1[Op-for] (Post 1091356)
I wonder if in the future, the GBBR will be the new AEG?

Fingers crossed.

However, it will make the entire world smell like cabbage.

yuhaoyang October 24th, 2009 23:51

If the cabbages you eat smell like propane....
Chances are you already are going to die soon.

MoreToasties October 24th, 2009 23:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuhaoyang (Post 1091365)
If the cabbages you eat smell like propane....
Chances are you already are going to die soon.

Nah, if you ever have old cabbage in the fridge.

"Hey, whos been shooting my Hi Capa?!"

"No, thats just the fridge"

El Cactus Loco October 25th, 2009 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 1091119)
metal receiver see custom order like all other "gray-line market" as for thermold, its the standard, also remember plastic has more heat capacity than metal. (meaning they will reduce temperature less than metal aka better efficiency and less cool down)

yah but the tank that actually holds the gas is still metal therefor your heat capacity theory doesn't really work... a mag with a metal shell and metal tank wouldn't differ much from a plastic mag with metal tank. the reason the KJW has better cool-down rates is because since the mag is bigger the tank can be bigger too. plus thermolds don't fit in those open top pouches especially the double mag pouches because of the large ribs on the sides. anyone taken the mags apart yet? maybe a pmag/stanag conversion? dimensions look fairly similar....
scroll down about 3/5ths of the way to see comparison pics between pmag and thermold

Doombringer October 25th, 2009 19:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 1091119)
metal receiver see custom order like all other "gray-line market" as for thermold, its the standard, also remember plastic has more heat capacity than metal. (meaning they will reduce temperature less than metal aka better efficiency and less cool down)

Metal has a better heat-conductivity than plastic... so it will absorb or dissipate energy a lot faster than plastic. This is why it becomes cold to the touch.

The actual temperature change happens because of a pressure difference inside the tank, so your tank could be metal, ceramic, plastic, whatever, it won't change anything in the temperature change, metal will just absorb it faster...

kullwarrior October 25th, 2009 19:30

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Originally Posted by El Cactus Loco (Post 1091605)
yah but the tank that actually holds the gas is still metal therefor your heat capacity theory doesn't really work... a mag with a metal shell and metal tank wouldn't differ much from a plastic mag with metal tank. the reason the KJW has better cool-down rates is because since the mag is bigger the tank can be bigger too. plus thermolds don't fit in those open top pouches especially the double mag pouches because of the large ribs on the sides. anyone taken the mags apart yet? maybe a pmag/stanag conversion? dimensions look fairly similar....
scroll down about 3/5ths of the way to see comparison pics between pmag and thermold

but keep in mind the contact of the metal is plastic, and when heat draws away, heat from the plastic will be draw. if its metal, it has lil heat, which cause it to cool down rapidly.

Ronan October 25th, 2009 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by theguy (Post 1091359)
For Milsim maybe, but for Skirmish use, You will never be able to build a GBB more practical then an AEG IMO

Wrong.

theguy October 25th, 2009 21:09

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 1091777)
Wrong.

Care to explain?

And are you saying my opinion's about milsim? or skirmish's are wrong?

bean October 25th, 2009 21:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 1091777)
Wrong.

How do you know? From all accounts you sit in your apartment hugging your precious and never game it.

El Cactus Loco October 27th, 2009 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 1091730)
but keep in mind the contact of the metal is plastic, and when heat draws away, heat from the plastic will be draw. if its metal, it has lil heat, which cause it to cool down rapidly.

meh, a few guys on JOC have taken original WE mags (ie metal tank+metal shell) and converted them to pmags (metal tank+plastic shell) and reported no change on cooldown/efficiency and change in relation between external temp and fps. i think any difference can be attributed to KJWs internals/gas system more than any other factor.

kylem_8 December 30th, 2009 16:28

For everyone that is concerned about the FPS being so high with this gun using Propane, I found something on youtube that is supposed to reduce the FPS output of the KJW M4.

YouTube- Cradle Airsoft O-Ring Piston and Velocity Adjuster Installation for KJW M4


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