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Is this DRA MBITR the same as the GWS/Spartan ones? It looks to have similar specs .. could they came from the same factory and Spartan just did an "ECHO1"?
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Gen 2 is coming, aluminum box with working buttons.
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Aluminum box, functional buttons, built-in speaker
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mil plug? price?
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To make the radio works with mil headset, you need to get the MBITR mount connector( U-183/U or U-283/U) yourself and have the factory to install for you. Price: http://www.dragonredairsoft.com/airs...roductID=29195 |
Hi Huang!
How we can send the mil connector to the manufacturer? I think that the better way to do that is that we´re able to send you the mil connector with a reserve payment and once you have the modified radio, we have to make the full payment and you send to us the product :D |
Any photos of the battery and charger? Have they been improved as well?
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Gen 3 availalbe for pre-order, with a detachable battery compartment as the real ones.
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So what is the dfferances between the gen 2 and gen 3?
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Gen 3 has a detachable battery compartment as the real steel ones. The new lipo battery compartment is 4V, 2000MAH which can last for 2 - 3 days.
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Has anyone tried out the Gen 3?
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i will this week hopefully
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Mind posting a little reveiw on it?
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i think its at the post office. i'll get it in the morning :)
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its here
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hey huang, do you have availible the PTT unit wired to fit the Gen 3 for the Swimmers Set i bought from you?
I have the PTT unit still for the motorola pin, but i have no idea of the wiring schematics or plug types and all that. And will you have spare batteries for the Gen 3? |
post this elsewhere if you are on arnies or somehting :)
dragon red airsoft gen 3 MBITR: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...f/DSCN1268.jpg first of all. looks amazing. feels amazing. yeah feels great. super solid all aluminum which is rad. switches and buttons all work and feel proper, not about to fall off or anything. the battery compartment attachment is the really the only thing on it that i dislike a lot. its just a big bolt from the bottom. to stop from rotating it has opposite screws and holes that it kinda locks into. the radio to battery plug is kinda sus too. like they could have dont a different more flat style connection im sure. cheeped out with that. could see it getting loose after time. the battery is a small stick lipo inside. i dont know why they went with something so small when they could have had something bigger. its only down the one side in the compartment. you could switch it easily if you felt the need. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...f/DSCN1258.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...f/DSCN1260.jpg they total just drilled some of these holes after anodizing so its just open metal and looks shitty. not a big deal we all know how to use a spray can. also the bottom here is just two plates with different holes so the screw doesnt fall through but is more flush (not totally flush) and the plates arent even glued together. easy fix. not like those ever come off really but still. cheeped out not having it one piece with a machined hole http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...f/DSCN1261.jpg Im not exactly sure as to what this little toggle behind the middle dial is as i dont have another radio to test nor have i wired my msa ptt correctly since i changed it before but i think its to go from the radio speakers to the headset...? if anyone knows... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...f/DSCN1262.jpg Im really really impressed with the rubber cover for the U-283. its great. just looks good to me. but as seen in this photo the speaker is just open for damage in the back (while handling you can easily put your finger in the hole) pretty retarded. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...f/DSCN1265.jpg antenna is kinda weak in a few ways. its non functional (only have heard that), its not real dimensions so it looks retarded to me. the connectors aren't the same as on the real one...super weak. its also not in the correct spot. not stoked on any of this. but it comes with an extension cable like a MAST KIT to throw it on the back (which i did) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...f/DSCN1270.jpg beside a toysoldier replica shell it is much shorter and much much skinnier. its just great. thales logos are proper. i think the mic hole is stupid. they could have done something different with that. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...f/DSCN1269.jpg side view looks great. i like the details. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...f/DSCN1266.jpg front also great except for you can see the lines from the cnc around the buttons and shit. not great in this pic but you can in real life: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...f/DSCN1267.jpg the insides looked good. it was getting weird to continue taking it apart so i just stopped but stuff looked legit and solid from what i could see. from what i can tell, it has more settings and functions then i'll ever know what to do with. i have not had time to test it as i dont have a spare radio anymore. prob works fine. thats all i got any questions just ask :) |
Hmm, yea the battery box seems to be more an afterthought than a real improvement I think.
Is there space between the speaker and the back of the box? Im asking because im wondering if its possible to slide a small metal mesh between them to protect the speaker. |
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If the Batt is a lipo, does this mean I have to also pick up a lipo charger?
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it comes with a wall charger. with a light on it that turns green when its done.
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Can you put your weed in it?
Looks a lot nicer than the last attempts. Thanks for the pics |
sooo much cronicccccccc
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For the current version, to use with military headset, you need to modify the mic of the headset. A new version will be released in about two monthes, which has a improved circuit board and can work with the military headset without modification.
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Sounds good Huang :) Ill wait till then!
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tag, i want to see how this plays out.
how is the 20KM (12.4 miles) range claim? i am thinking about getting one of these for use in the woods and hills of New England (Connecticut or Vermont) so i need something with some range and power. |
i'm not much of a solder and i'm afraid to break my expensive headset. i'm gonna wait until new model get's released. thanks for updates huang!
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Thx for the review wey ferro,so is it worth the money to buy this item,anddid you do a range test with it
To huang if you read this message can you tell me when version 4 is going to be released |
Thread zombie, yey!
I'll be getting a Puxing shortly, IMHO it's a better value as a radio. I'll sort something out so it would still look like an MBITR. So.... I had a look at the TW whip antenna: http://www.toysoldier.com.hk/product_details.php?pid=44 http://www.toysoldier.com.hk/images/...3_IMG_0121.jpg Is it me, or does it look like an SMA plug? If that's the case, it could be installed and actually works on the Puxing, instead of just having it as a dummy. Also, if anywone has comments on this antenna's build quality, feel free to share! |
Your right, now that you mention it. I have few SMA Plugs laying around. If Huang ever gets his hands on Gen 4 or whichever is the latest version that uses swimmers or comtac style headsets work with, Ill take a closer look. Im also hoping they improve the quality of the unit (such as the fake battery unit). If im investing in a unit like this, I would like to get something I can feel good about. Things like a fake battery, (like cmon, lipo inside a fake battery cartridge?) and as way ferro mentioned, the single bolt in the middle is a pretty chincy design flaw as well as the speaker hole and fake antennae.
Really, I wouldnt mind paying a little more to get these flaws fixed. |
any ideas when that gen4 is available? looking forward to it.
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ya me when is gen 4 coming available?
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This has been a very intriguing thread, but when is the Gen 4 coming?
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and where the hell is the programming cable for gen 3
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i'm getting that gen4 once it comes out, huang any eta?
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Ok, as someone who has bought one of these fine radios, i feel the right to say the following:
Where on earth is the programming cable??? i have tried to contact these guys directly and _NO_ answer to my question has been forthcoming.. Huang, it's been a few months now, has everyone in the factory who makes the programming cable died or something? IF there was never going to be a cable then it should have been said as such, i do get the feeling that we've been 'strung along' and i personally would like an answer.. I also wish to declare in public that i intend to buy another radio set (with all the gubbins) if the programming cable ever sees the light of day. On the old website i stuck up for you guys when others were throwing out what i would say were unreasonable expectations.. and then _You_ stated that a programming cable would become available. while i cannot find the exact post in your new website, i do know that you stated this before the 1st of febuary.. I really want to set this up correctly, i want to try and push your radio to the rest of my team (8 strong including me) but everyone wants the programming cable so that we can phase the radios in, as not everyone can afford a radio now and some people will not run the risk of operating out of PMR Frequencies. asside from that: Wey Ferro, cheers mate for putting up the pictures when you did, it pushed me over the edge to buy this bit of kit.. apart from the programming cable 'problem' it has been quite a nice purchase! Also, huang, is there any chance of buying just the comtac for the radio i already have? let me know how much.. Also, a big thanks to ILLusion for helping a brain-dead fool get his account working (me) |
plus the "mil" wired ones weren't anything close to mil wired.
haung. call your boy and get some flippin answers. this is bullshit. |
wey, what do you mean by 'mil wiring?
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i got the one with the u-183 connector and they said it was wired for mil headsets. i tried a few different ones and it wasnt. i re wired it inside the radio
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ahh, yep.. got you..
i went for the 'vanilla' as i didn't have any comms that could use that connector.. apart from a large number of old clansman headsets from when i used the old british army kit (would have stuck with that but it wasn't exactly on the correct side of the law) but i wouldn't have paid the extra money just in the hope that i could have used a mankey old headset! anyway, i just hope that we get this cable.. |
Huang,
So when is the gen 4 ready it would be nice take one to berget |
it would be nice when gen 4 and when the programming cable for the 3rd gen is coming out
Hint, Hint... come on huang, i've been reading about how you stand by what you sell.. EDIT: to quote from the dragonred website, under features that would need a programming cable, and i believe i'm not unreasonable in my request. # Software upgradable # Support image transfer in the future by sofware upgrade |
hahaha. i got mine working with some linton radios good so im not too worried about this anymore.
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wey, heck yes i could get these going if i just went out and bought a couple of other (non PMR) radio's.. but i'm trying to get my entire team to move over and they have this backward mentality, they want them to work with european freq's now until everyone can equip, then they won't care.. (Take a leaf of faith FFS!)
i may just chalk this up to experience and buy a few radio's to distribute to the team.. it would be alot cheaper then buying two PRC's anyway.. i guess huang looses out by default, shame as it's a nice bit of kit.. as a back note, my team isn't the best on COMSEC and is running a bunch of radio's that they haven't taken the time to truly understand. So regulaly switching freq's is painful to say the least. |
well you are talking to the wrong people since our freqs are different and its workin here :) finally.
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well i've sent them another email, no response so far but we shall see..
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well, probably last post in this thread because it's going no-where fast (emails and PM's not replied to) despite my best efforts
anyway, IF i get a reply or get anywhere i'll let you all know. but i wouldn't hold my breath. |
I have a question for you guys who using the DragonRed PRC-148 MBITR radio.
Do you guys use PMR on these radios? Because if you are that's kinda wierd since it only allows 12.5/25 kHz in channel step and you need 6.25 kHz to be able to set the proper PMR channels. Can someone confirm this. |
we were told that the programming cable would allow for the use of the 6.25kHz stepping,
and since PMR is the european range i don't expect many people to comment on it here (would be like asking if a radio unable to use FRS would be a problem in europe) |
I understand. But a cable won't change the actual ability on using a anther stepping so then I take it as the answer is No.
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we were told that it would allow the use of the 6.25kHz stepping, hence allow PMR use..
basically a 'when the cable comes you'll be able to use that stepping' ploy, which is more like a bait-and-switch to be honest, promise something without really following through. but no, no-one is using it on PMR frequencies right now (well, i can just about use it on PMR channel 1, it's close enough for me to communicate, but it's not great) I hate bl**dy PMR, i don't know why they use such a retarded stepping.. also i'd just like to apologise to Huang, i thought he was part of DragonRed rather then being a stockist of DragonRed. |
Well if the radio will allow 6.25 kHz stepping it will work as some or all you guys maybe already know.
Like some of you in this thread knows I am working on a MBITR solution myself and I'm going to order the things needed for it this weekend or next week. What I want to do is make this available for more people but then I would need you guys who would be interested to give me some info on what You need, want and currently use because I must make specific for each and one of you. I'm a guy who only use real stuff as much as I can because I personally hate replicas of things, and I'm running with real MSA Sordin Dual Commo setup, Davies/TEA TASC-1, real Thales Broadband and Thales Whip antennas. I've been modifying radios, PTTs and stuff like for maybe two years so I know some of it and now it's time to go to next level, by making a shell as the primary radio setup! So everyone who would be interested in a MBITR solution with Spartan MBITR PRC-148 shell (built in good and stong plastic), real U-183 connectors, real Nexus U-94 PTT with real U-229 connector and UHF (PMR channels will not be possible due to hard to find a radio that allow 6.25 kHz stepping and fits in the shell) and/or VHF (dual or single band) radio (will be programmable using cable to PC), also real Thales VHF antenna will be available for those who would be interested (antenna in picture below) please let me know ASAP. This is how it'll look: http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o...artanmbitr.jpg |
what are the specs on the radio you'll be fitting inside?
how will the recharging be conducted (hole in the body,take it apart or contact charging) also, will the display of the donor radio be visible? depending on price and answers i'm interested in 2 at the moment. but i'll need hooking up with some accessories, not easy to find a TASC 1 w/Nexus PTT here.. |
It'll be either a Puxing or a Yaesu radio depending on what you want to use band vise.
The radio will be easy to take out and will not be perm mounted in the radio shell. Display with be seen when taken out same with charging. I can't get you any real MSA Sordin nor any TASC-1 but real Nexus U-94 PTTs I can or if you want I can get replica U94 or the 'TEA' Maritime/Universal PTT. Same with MSA Sordin/TASC-1. Or if you order yourself from Ebairsoft. Everything will be adjusted after the specs You want of course. |
Small update.
Two Spartan MBITR shells and three U-183 has been ordered. Next up is radio with it's accessories. When everything is fully done and tested it'll be available as first prototype for You who want one. More updates will be available as project goes on. |
Hi guys,
small update. Haven't received my other things yet but here's just a little on-the-side thing I made for two friends. Yaesu VX-7R with DEVGRU PTT with throat mic http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o...uthroatmic.jpg Yeasu VX-8R with Nexus U-94 PTT and Racal Urban headset http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o...yaesuracal.jpg |
And the last one.
Yaesu VX-7R with DEVGRU "TASC" headset. http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o...devgrutasc.jpg |
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Oh sorry. I got what you meant (I hope). As I wrote, this was a on-the-side thing I made for a team and this was not with a Spartan shell.
When I'll use the Spartan shell the radio will be hidden inside and no Yaesu cables with be seen outside the shell, only mil U-plugs. Did this answer you question? :) |
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I will post pictures as soon as I have got all the things but I had some things that came up in the last minute so it will delay a bit sadly.
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ya i am also looking forward to your pictures however a radio withing a radioshell hmm i dont now ,what is good is that you try to make the radio from the real parts.
How about it huang do you have any new developments with gen 4? |
jurgen975: Not possible to make a radio with real parts. Would be if you're an engineer with a lot of good tools correct materials. But a Spartan is what it'll be for now at least.
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Almost done. Yaesu VX-7R with Thales whip antenna (30-88Mhz) and Sonetronics H-250 handset.
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o.../yaesuh250.jpg |
Guys, what frequencies/channels are you using?
GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service)? FRS (Family Radio Service)? PMR (Private Mobile Radio)? What more? |
Usually FRS & GMRS.
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Thank you for that info Conker.
Sorry if I OT. Let me know if Mods is against. Newly purchased, a Motorola LST-5 UHF LOS 255-400mhz antenna. http://www.taskforce11.com/wp-conten...donkeyant2.jpg http://www.taskforce11.com/wp-conten...donkeyant1.jpg http://www.taskforce11.com/wp-conten...donkeyant3.jpg |
A friend of mine told me that a gen4 on the DH AN/PRC-148 will not be released.
Can someone confirm this? I am still working on details for the MBITR project. I can give you a small update, things that has been confirmed and will be included.
Also can be bought (maybe with) for real mil headsets such as TEA/Davies TASC-1, MSA Sordin, H-250 handset or ACM headset or handset. It all depends on what headset you want to use or if you only want to use a H-250 handset. About the radio, for now PMR will not be available, at least for now. All other normal VHF and UHF frequencies will be available. Such as GMRS, FRS, LPD, SRBR etc etc. I will be able to program it for you and you will also be able to program it, but haven't figured out the easiest way of programming it yet but I'll have an update on that later too. |
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Small updates folks - finally!
Two Spartan shells are ordered, couple of U183 connectors and the internal adapter cables from radio to Spartan so that the antenna can be directly attached to the Spartan shell. Only missing now is the things to arrive and order the radio and a couple of other small things. Edit: This is how it'll be built: http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o...dioproject.jpg More updates about that later. Just want to check about FRS and GMRS. Is this correct frequencies/channels? GMRS: Channel 1: 462.550 Channel 2: 462.575 Channel 3: 462.600 Channel 4: 462.625 Channel 5: 462.650 Channel 6: 462.675 Channel 7: 462.700 Channel 8: 462.725 FRS: Channel 1: 462.5625 Channel 2: 462.5875 Channel 3: 462.6125 Channel 4: 462.6375 Channel 5: 462.6625 Channel 6: 462.6875 Channel 7: 462.7125 Channel 8: 467.5625 Channel 9: 467.5875 Channel 10: 467.6125 Channel 11: 467.6375 Channel 12: 467.6625 Channel 13: 467.6875 Channel 14: 467.7125 |
One VX-3R received and by reading the manual didn't give me much since it isn't even say 6.25kHz in stepping in manual. Instead I noticed it when programming another channel!
So how about this, the radio IS SUPPORTING 6.25kHz (PMR)!!! http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o...3rpmrstepp.jpg |
tomorrow you'll have a PM, too tired at the moment..
and if you don't get one, PM me.. |
For those who are interested in these I need to know quite soon because new batch of Spartan MBITR shells will be available in late July. So before that I need to know how many that are interested in these.
I will hopefully order 2 or 3 extra but if more are interested I'd need to know that before ordering. I'll wait for your PM doc. |
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Received the U-183 plugs today and the antenna connector+cable!
Small update now until Spartan MBITR shells arrive! This is how it'll look. Only thing missing now is the cables from the U-183 plug down to the radio. It'll be fixed later this week! IGNORE THE EXTREMELY FUXXED LOOKING TOY SOLDIER SHELL OMG! The plug is cannot be mounted properly in this shell due to the size is so wrong. Everything will look and get mounted a lot better in the Spartan MBITR, don't worry! http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o.../mbitrnew1.jpg http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o.../mbitrnew2.jpg http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o.../mbitrnew3.jpg |
where can I buy this? I looked at huang's site I don't see it in there
I did the same thing as you but with a moterola talkabout. I want a real radio though now |
This one is made by me and will be available soon for purchase.
Or did I missunderstand your question? :) |
I will try to clear out some questions that has followed during the journey...
It will be available in different types. ACM or Nexus U94 PTT modified for china headsets or real ones. Can be bought with ACM or Sonetronics H250 handset. Can be bought with ACM Sordins, TASC-1 or Comtacs I or II too. It can be bought with a real Thales VHF 136-174Mhz antenna (very limited available) or/and internal antenna (orginal Yaesu antenna) for both UHF and VHF and use replica Spartan Thales Broadband antenna on outside. Only U-183 connector, no Maritime. Radio is programmable in field (no keypad, only wheel) or can be programmed when bought for PMR, SRBR, GMRS, FRS or what ever you use. Extra battery can be ordered if you need more than one 1100mAh 3.7V. Uhrm not sure if I have forget anything... please ask in thread if I have forget anything. |
Uptime time!
Everything working. Sending and receiving sound works perfectly and it looks really good in my opinion! Remeber this is a prototype. Going to improve as much as I can when the Spartan arrives looking and quality vise! But damn it's nice to use U-plugs intead of Kenwood and Yaesu plugs and full size radio! ;) http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o...itrnew2561.jpg http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o...itrnew2562.jpg http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o...itrnew2563.jpg |
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Aprox price is 400 USD including shipping. When I'm 100% done I will give a exact price because cables and such need to be bought too in good quality before I can make more for you guys.
It can be bought with replica PTT to reduce the price a bit. |
that price it should include sordins haha
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If you think 400 USD for these things are too high then don't comment. The radio itself is 190 USD at cheapest, Spartan shell is 60 USD and Nexus PTT is 50 USD. That's just 300 USD without connectors, work and shipping.
Don't forget that this radio is a dual band radio. You won't need a dual headset or two radios using this radio since it handles both VHF and UHF. You of all people should know that having the best things costs lots...? So please no such comments. |
One Spartan shell arrived from a dear friend in Austria.
Yesterday I thought, finally I got the Spartan shell and now it's time to wait so that I can order the Yeasu VX-3R. After some thinking I thought, my 7R must fit with some modifications. So I started to do some modifications and after aprox an hour or two it does fit! So now my project is almost done, only some small things left. So this is my working AN/PRC-148 with real Thales Broadband antenna (90-512Mhz), real Thales Whip antenna (30-88Mhz), real U plugs, Nexux U94 PTT and optional Davies TASC-1, Sonetronics H-250 handset or MSA Sordin Dual headset and it works as a real MBITR as well (30-512Mhz) some with exceptions. If you have any further questions please ask. http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o.../coombitr1.jpg http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o.../coombitr2.jpg http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o.../coombitr3.jpg http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o.../coombitr4.jpg |
Small update. Missing the cable with the 3.5mm cable down to the radio.
The small details such as the little tiny opening on the upper part is caused by the U183 connector, will be fixed also. Have just done the "hard work". http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o.../coombitrj.jpg http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o.../coombitr5.jpg |
Well done jimmy,
At last a radio with a real antenna,however i have some questions How do you set ,change the channels when your in a game senario?I dont have time to open the shell and change frequencies.Can i see the frequencies in the display Is it easy to swich from pmr to gmrs? agian without opening the shell. How does the radio feel,does it feel solid or do i feel that there is a lose radio/weight in the spartan shell What is the range of this radio in a mountain area |
Hey,
First off it isn't available for salw anymore. You cannot see the display nor change channels without opening the shell. There's no real screws, it's very easy to open it. You only remove the lower plastic cover by pushing it in and draging it down. Takes two seconds to do. It is solid and are sturdy enough to use when crawling in mud and stuff. About range, that's something you can't say because it depends on alot off factors such as what kind of channel you use, weather, how high up the antenna is and so on. I normally use my Thales whip antenna for longer distant communication. Cheers. |
so is GEn 4 coming out?
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I have made the decision that I will not make more of these mods due to the amount of job that needs to be done.
I have a few more pictures to share but that's all for me. http://www.jimmysjogren.se/wp-conten...10/08/1582.jpg http://www.jimmysjogren.se/wp-conten...10/08/1281.jpg http://www.jimmysjogren.se/wp-conten...10/08/1282.jpg |
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