hm. now that i think about it, it might actually be the shells. as of now i only have 2. when i get home ill have to test it out again. thanks.

i dont think its the shells. or mabey lol i only have 2 shells and its happening with both. but its actually not that bad lol they all pretty much shoot straight and in the same general area lol.

I bought one at full price the other night, had it apart within a half hour of getting it, did try a shell's worth of .12g thought it, pretty cool. Now to find more shells and a way to carry them, and see if I can get a classic straight stock for it. Not crazy about pistol grip types, but is still way better than not having a stock at all.

Just a heads up, they are on sale this week again.....40% off on all crappy tire airsoft.

They're still full price on the website... :c

Sale starts fri november 27-thurs dec 3rd

it is the shells- I have had a UTG, and now use a DE; and we have several UTG, DE TM and Crosman shottys in use at our field and all of them do it; in fact getting 4-8 BBs is so common with new UTG shells we disparagingly call it a 'UTG special' as though you get more BBs they only fly half as far which is usually no where near where you were aiming :p

Most of my new shells stopped doing it after I left them fully loaded for a week but it still happens off and on. If you look at the breakdown for these 3 BB shottys you can see the mechanism that is supposed to 'prevent' more than 3 BBs from loading but nearly every shotty I have seen has done it at least once and if you search enough forums you can see that even TM shells can have the problem (and that currently there is no fixed solution as everyone seems to need to do something different to fix the issue)

yes.. its back on sale.... its all coming to fruition.....

Picked one up today on a whim.. I figure it'll be fun for a few laughs...

Until you try it with 0.28g BBs, then the only laughs involved will be you laughing at guys running AEGs since you'll likely outrange them with a '3 round burst' from a clearsoft gun. ;)

Do they go on sale Canada wide? I just noticed that my local crappy tire carries them, but last week they were still $120

only canadian tires give sometimes rebates. The other are not related to the rebates therefore keeping their prices.

Sorry... I'm not sure if you misread my post, I know every other non-canadian tire retailer doesn't follow the sale, I meant does EVERY Canadian tire Canada wide follow suit and lower the price?

Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I thought everyone here hated crap-soft...

Yeah, but that shotgun is a TM clone. It's not highgrade, but still has its purpose and has quite some range.

The s34p is kind of like an exception. for the price it is its pretty fun and decent.

Nevermind, answered my own question... online says there on sale, and they are in stock... thanks for the heads up notec!!

Only relates to two things: 1/ Kids having them bought for them and playing in suburban backyards, and the cops getting involved; 2/ Noobs thinking they are the 1337 guns and expecting to do well at games with guys how have TM and othher high end guns.

Granted, most of the Crosman guns are crap, the shotty we're talking about here is a total jem for what you get. And I just picked up the C11 CO2 pistol about to head to the garage to test it out, I figured what the hell, I'll get one. Now, a vet used to normal high end AEGs and wanting more of a challenge by 'undergunning' himself just makes him look more bad ass on the field. A noob showing up with 'Soft Air' and being all "I rock at *such and such a video game*" just end up looking like douches.

The c11's usually go on sale for like half price. for 50 bucks i think they are worth it its surprisingly pretty good. obviously not compared to a tm or ksc but for 50 bucks if you get it on sale you cant go wrong.

If you are going to buy a crapsoft pistol... wouldn't you bet better off with one of these?

http://albertaairsoft.com/store/cate...d_category=142

At least, you can get extra mags for them.

I tried it out, is pretty good once it settles down. I ended up with maybe 2" groups at 20ft when I tried it. Best thing about it, it's NBB which means it'll be more reliable in sandy environments (which I often am in and really fucks my GBBs bad)............ I still have my KSC Mk23 FMU to use most of the time, but now I have a decent sidearm I can rely on more than my fucked KSC G19s (both are a pain, reliable for years, now work great at home but not on the field when I really need them). Hence my paying $100 for a pistol I can at least get 15 reliable shots out of, that is better than a springer (which also suffers from my sand filled exploits. I'm a sniper remember, crawling happens often!)

If you're looking for a challenge, why not try joining the "300 club". Guys run guns at strictly 300 fps or less, more of a test of skill, less range... I forget who had it as there signature, but I thought it was kind of interesting.

lol mags are a little hard to find. i was on a website and found like 2 mags for 14 bucks i think or something like that. if you look for them i suggest looking at canadian pellet gun websites. because crossman is mostly pellet guns they also list the c11 and magazines for them as well. and of coarse crosman website has them i think 2 for 15 mabey?

Some people on EAR started it.

yo,

yeah it started on EAR, DonP has one aswell and a small handful others

The true challenge lies with running a 300fps gun(s) against guys that go full bore with up to 400fps. A game with everyone under 300fps isn't a challenge, it's just more of the same. I'm happier with my 400fps sniper rifle and GBBs going against everyone than I am being on a side and using a 360fps MP5 and having my sniper rifle and a pistol or two with me. I'm REALLY looking to under gun myself next year, just because I have the experience and confidence from it to pull it off.

Run a spring pistol :D
And or limit yourself to ammo.

Spring pistol and .12 gram or it isn't a challenge for you.

Been there, done that. 0.12g is a waste of time, I've gotten more hits on guys at games with varied ammo weights by stepping on them and having them shoot off somewhere. Trust me, I've been creditted with kills at games I didn't even attend.

Don't treat me like a noob, I've been in the shittiest positions anyone can get into, and dealt with all, either had my ass owned large (and learned from it) to pulling off shit to survive most players would say "WTF?!?" to. I often set myself up totally undergunned and deal with it, is why I still play. AEGs get boring after a while, is why I'm looking at complimenting my all day carry with "crapsoft". If I can do well with it based upon experience and my only trick is using heavier BBs based upon my extensive ballistics studies, where does that leave the rest of you?

I think the 300 club is people who plays with less than 300 bbs per game in total. Correct me if I am wrong. They are the milsim people.

Okay a little filler cause most of you seem to not know what exactly the "300 club" is.

Yes it started with the milsim guys at the EAR. it has nothing to do with 8 pack abs and angry men with beards.

It's a throwback to the days when stock guns shot about 280fps. Members of the "300 club" have guns that shoot under 300 fps, by choice. because now stock guns run like 340fps+ in practical terms it mean "those who choose not to upgrade their guns because we fuckin rock and it doesn't matter if your screaming on all cylinders with a systema we'll still drop you like a doe"

But the term originates from when TM guns shot no more than 300 in stock form were the norm. its kinda like those guys who go hunting turkey with a slingshot, its just for the challenge and to keep it exciting, cause whats the fun in blowing it's brains out from 700 yards away when it has no idea its being hunted? same deal with airsoft. when everybody is running 380fps it's awesome to show up with like a TM scorpion and just dominate

Sorry, I didn't mean play in a game where EVERYONE plays with 300 fps, I mean't just for kicks trying using just 300 bb's and a gun that shoots 280-300 fps in the game against people who are using thousands of rounds and fully upgraded guns. It wasn't an attack at you, I didn't mean to suggest you were a "noob".

But hey, If you REALLY wan't a challenge, dress up like a speed baller and use a rubber knife :p

Hehe, that'd be funny.

Actually I go through a LOT less ammo than 300 rounds per game, and that's using my AEG. Been a couple game days where I'd barely make it though a midcap. I remember the least amount of ammo I ever went through, was sniper rifle and suppressed MK23, I fired four shots and got three kills, one was with my pistol. Granted I was in stealth mode at the time, but was also going 15 vs. 15 vs. me. Another time I lugged my MP5 and M24 for an evening/night game, I barely used a locap, and only fired off four shots with my rifle (all after 10pm) and net three kills.

Thing being, I feel like going around without my chest rig, without a pile of mags on me, just want to give the shotty a run for a while and see what happens. And my getting the C11 is purley to have a cheap gas pistol I can count on, at least til I get my G19s working (once I got one working great for a half dozen mags at home, only to find out it spewed gas first shot at the game when I needed it). At least I have a working kick ass MK23 now that I can count on working, but if not, the C11 will be there with me next year, provided it keeps working.

i think a big challenge would be to bring out as many bbs as there are players in your sniper, or like 2bbs per person on the oppostie team?

Would be rather pointless actually. Sniping in airsoft is nothing like real steel, there really are few 'one shot, one kill' past 150ft. I have great fun running my rifle and pistol, leaving the AEG and the chest rig elsewhere and going light, really brings out the skills. Just like my want of using a shotgun next year, is light and effective, and won't get in the way like an AEG will (physical size and shape, plus mags are easier to carry and lighter). And I've already mastered the pistol, rifle, SMG/AEG............ so all that's left is the shotgun and support gun (no thanks) for me to focus on and have something fresh to make me look forward to games.

Anyways back on topic, I just went out and picked me up one for $80.64 with tax. I didn't hesitate to go outside and test it out. This thing is GREAT. I mean, $80 is hardly anything to spend on something that shoots as good as the TM I tried. Yes, it's probably not as reliable as the TM, but at that price, you could buy 2-3 of the crosman shotties for the price of one new TM model. This is really an interesting find.

And Stalker, I can't wait to try .28 bb's, the .25's are still blowing away a little in the wind... but I could STILL float out shots to 150 feet. I can only imagine the .28's :).

Would I lie? Lol, good stuff.

I find on mine the upper barrel tends to overhop more than the other two, even with 0.30g (but just slightly and you only see it past 140ft). But the spread is nice enough that you can get all three on a guy out to around 130ft.

just bought mine today. ill play around with it a bit before i start my mods on it, but so far im very happy with it. might have to buy a second one to keep it the way it is instead of turning it into a project gun

i might just have to pick up another one for outdoor cause with 6 bbs coming out im not getting to great of range

I'd like one as a primary, with a full stock and rails for outdoor use with a pistol and a secondary, and one just kept short and plain for secondary use with my m4 loadout. I have 6 TM shells that work perfectly.. but I'd love to get an obscene amount of shells. Anyone know where I can get some? Other than the TM brand, I remember someone was selling them, and actually let you pick the color, because I'd like to keep them all red.

I think Capital airsoft sells em, Though you might get a multi-coloured pack

stryak sells em 4 for 16 bucks, your choice of colour

Yeah, I used to sell em but don't have any left. But if you want to get a bunch I can order some.

It would probably be worth it to pick some more up... With the numbers that have picked this shotty up i'm thinking people would buy them. I would be down for 4 or 8. PM me.

Bought this shotty yesterday and it had a crack in.....exchanged it another location and an even bigger crack. Luckely I asked them to open the box so I would,t have to come back. They had another shotty there and finally it was intact. Yay!
Spent $62.11 due to me having crappy tire money =). Played with it all day and I'm planning on painting it today! Moral of the story, ask to check the gun instore.

For those looking for the shells.....I came across these. Dont know if its a good price or not.

http://www.businessvision.net/edge/Main.asp?D={F8827DDF-0A90-458C-A4F0-3D71AEBE462A}&PageType=Product&SKU=LEMAG-M3-6&CategoryID=73

ya when i bpught mine i tried it out and the bbs were going everywhere. so i returned it and got another. went home. crack in the next one and it didnt come with the bottle of bbs so i didnt think i can return it so i didnt, and this one is shooting 6 bbs at once but im not sure if thats the gun or the shells?

Might as well post up a teaser of my project gun. when its done youll shit bricks. and yes, thats a real wood stock.

http://www.mts.net/~peter98/DSC00139.JPG

ohhhhh shit!

Hmmmmm, I have a bunch of wooden stocks in my basement that I have been saving for projects..........

Wow same here. Might have to ditch the pistol, and go grab one! Then for the fun to begin..... :)

use a protractor to find the angle of the rear of the body, cut the stock (in this case, a .22 stock) at a comfortable position. find the optimal position by lining up the trigger of the shotgun with the trigger slot cut into the stock. drill a pilot hole, and then bore a 3/4" hole into the stock as deep as required. use a wood removal tool on a dremel to bore out the sides for the notches.

In this case, i drilled through the stock and stock tube, then halfed the body and filled the stock tube with expoxy and a nut. Did both sides seperately so the body can still be taken apart. Put together and run the relative long screw through both parts. only took 3 hours to get the fit right and another hour to get the screw attached.

Just a bump to say that the Crosman S34P is on sale at Canadian Tire again for 40% off ($71.99).

yup picked one up yesterday

Got one used this week, and I gotta say that it's hell fun to take someone out in the back!

Thanks for the heads up Gent's! I picked one of these Shotguns up this morning. By mid afternoon I her all painted up and looking like a "real" airsoft gun.

For the price, this is one heck of a fun little gun. :D

At about 20 - 25 feet I am getting all 3 BB's in a nice grouping maybe 6" across.

It won't penatrate a pop can at that distance, but it will dent the hell out of it.

Not sure about long term reliability, but considering this was just an impulse buy after reading this thread today, I am totaly happy with my purchase.

Thanks again

Gordo

Hey guys; I was just wondering if anyone here has "pimped out" their Crosman Stinger S34P Shotguns?

I really like the look of a shotgun when it is equiped with all the tactical accesories.

Things like adjustable stocks, tactical rails, red dot sights, lasers, flashlights and of course the manditory shell holder mounted on the side of the receiver and help make these things look so cool.

I have looked around on the net to see what you can do to these things, but I can't seem to find many pics of the M3 with lots of accessories on them. You see lots of pics of the TM - SPAS or the M870 shotguns dressed up, but nothing really for the M3.

Just wondering if you guys have found ways of adapting any parts intended for other shotguns onto the M3?

Post some pics if you done up your "Shotty" to look like a "Hotty"! (weak eh )

Gordo

just bought one of these from canadian tire, painted it up, seems to work good test firing, looking forward to trying it out in a game

After using my buddies DE M3 for the pass 2 games. Decided to pickup my own for indoor games. Perfect timing that it goes on sale when I was looking for one. It doesn't seem as smooth as a TM and DE i used before but its not bad.

Now I just gotta find a cheap place for the mag shells since 2 is not enough.

Hey guys, just a heads up, you can get really good range with heavier BBs, like 0.28g. I found that 0.25g would overhop so tried heavier, best I saw was 0.36g. The upper barrel will still overhop a bit but not as bad as with lighter BBs. Range, effectively about 120-130ft.

It's on sale again guys ;)

again or still? I think the sale ( or at least in this area) started Friday and runs till this thursday

Personally I am using .25 because as much as you can have longer range with heavier BBs, the velocity is so low that even indoor lots of people are not calling thier hits.

I have a velocity of around 230 FPS with .25 and I am hitting people at 100 feet in the face with all 3 BBs hitting their face. That is pretty sick, the grouping remains tight even at such a range, I have the Smith & Wesson full stock all black version (signature below) but it is the same as the clear Canadian tire except with a stock and all black.

I tried with .28 and I did not had the same performance the velocity was too low and accuracy was not as good. For my shottie .25 is the perfect weight for accuracy, distance and FPS. So I recommand people using different weights BBs starting from ,25 and I would really not go higher than ,30 and see for themselves.

This is now my favorite gun indoor and by a longshot... the best investment that I have made in airsoft!

i also had best luck with hitting a target with .25's, they also feed the best in the crappy crossman mags

My crosman shotgun is a blast I had it for over a year. Things I would recommend would be getting at least 6+ tokyo marui shotgun shells cause the crosman ones are pretty cheap. A black hawk wrist shell holder works well and is better than a shotgun sling. A flashlight mount is also handy and you don't really need to get optics for this cause its a shotgun and most of the time you are just gonna hip fire.

mine like busted in half. i pumped it and when i released where the pistol grip meets the body just busted right in 2 all te springs and such just flew out lol

Same thing happen in the winter time. 1$ glue and stronger then ever.

Considering picking one of these up... is it really worth the money?

Yes. I'm heavily tempted to buy another (sold mine to pay bills)

Yes, is well worth the cash once you paint it up and buy extra shells.

Considering it's Crosman I assume it might be picky with shells... would TM shells be good to use in this bad-boy?

Yes, tm shells are compatible with the crosman

TM, DE, etc shells work with it just fine. I have a mix of them all (a dozen shells in total), all cycle great and with heavy BBs work well outdoors.

Using a shotgun, is very very fun. Some of my best times in airsoft are pumping a shotgun and seeing the bbs spread like crazy :D

i'm thinking about mounting a laser beacuse aiming isn't easy, but i haven't figured how yet. This saturday it will be my backup weapon .

Normally lasers are banned from most games in Québec.

Just look down the barrel. Agreed, the rear sight is too low, making it hard, but once i got a stock on mine (what a pain that was!!) I found the sights were easy to use.

Checked the flyer starting tomorrow hoping the sale would continue another week, but nope.. they do have a clearsoft Thompson with a drum mag though.. lol

I've got some available now (well, after October 2nd), cheaper than Crappy Tires regular retail :)

Jeff

Can these guns be safely bump fired? As in holding down the trigger and pumped. Or is that a no no for any shotguns? I read on another thread that the crosman has it built in so that was possible? Just wondering about long term use. Thanks

Yes, it does have a auto-trigger, if you hold the trigger, as soon as the pump arm is returned to the fully forward position it will fire, allowing you to fire faster than having to pull the trigger each time. Will it work well? Not really, you have 10 shots and pumping takes a bit of effort, without a stock to stabilize the movements. Accuracy will go out the window... one shot one kill is faster/more effective than 10 shots, a miss, and reloading.

Thanks!

yes you can get it from ct in lethbridge to i just went there today and it is on sale here to

Bump.

The shotgun is on sale again !! I just bought mine. I'm actually quite surprised with the quality of the thing, since I was expecting it to be a total piece of junk. The only downside is that I cant paint it because I want to keep the guaranty. Any tips about how to cover its shameful clearness without painting it ? Hokey tape, maybe?

How much did you pay? I still see it at 119$ on their site :S
Will go see tomorrow, hope it's still going to be on sale, as normally specials starts and ends on friday (or thursday, depending on how you put it...)

I will be going sometime soon, thanks for the info.

Cut the arm off your worn out BDU and wrap it, hope for the best.

Seriously, just take the risk and paint the damned thing after you hacksaw off the orange tip. :D

We have had people here that painted their shitty Wal-mart M4's and were still able to return them.

Dont have mine with me at the moment, but would someone who has one mind finding out if each barrel is fed from the same bb placement(if the 1st, 4th, 7th bb in the shell/mag stack feed the upper barrel, 2nd, 5th, 8th go to the left, etc consistently) I would like to know because mixing BB weight to affect spread patterns was suggested earilier in the thread and I was wondering if it was consitent in how the bbs are grabbed from the stack you could plan which bb weight go's into each barrel to achieve more consistent/controlled shot patterns.

If the answer is yes, when I have my shotty with my I will try putting the top barrel with a heavy bb(top barrel overhops, heavier bb should help with range, allowing for decent accuracy at moderate range) and two lighter mixed bb's in the bottom two barrels to get a little spread.

Just an idea I was thinking of doing to test this out, get different colored bb's or mark white bb's with markers and load the bb's into the shell stack, taking note of the order, and shoot some foam/something the bb's will stick in, and see which bb ends up where. Repeat to see if bb's are grabbed from consistent position or not.

Anyone knows where to get more shells? Seems hard to find... Can'tire don't sell them apparently, and crossman.com ship in us only. Airsoftparts.ca hasn't them in stock

I can get you some.

I paid 80 $ after taxes. It comes with a speedloader, 2 shells, 1000 shitty bbs, and the crapiest sling I have ever seen. The best thing is that it has a 1 year warranty !!

Got mine yesterday
Nice toy Indeed for the price!

Seems to misfire sometime and has a small crack on the outerbarel near the front handguard. Will try to exchange it next week

For the records, I found that AirsoftQc has some shells in stock (3 packs of 3 remaining now, as I bought one as well)

They are on sale at the Meadowvale C-Tire... for 71 bucks

Just incase anyone is looking at buying one of these Canadian Tire Shotty's, here is what they can look like if you put a little time and effort into them.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...=Canadian+Tire

Gordo

Not to shabby for a CT shotty with that stock.

So its on sale again for 71 bucks...

I noticed that the thompson is on sale too (usually 179, now its 107)

Is it like its shotgun counterpart? Is it a decent gun? Im curious about picking one up and getting the pulse rifle upgrade to it... thoughts?

plastic gear box

At 40% off I don't think you can really lose. I'd be wary of it though since it's not really known to be a direct clone of any other design like the S34P is a direct clone of the TM M3. I'm not sure what the internals are on that thing but I think I've heard that it's CYMA "reject" parts or older crappier CYMA parts.

It might be an OK rental or loaner but TBH I'd rather get myself a Kraken, clean up the internals on that thing to make it slightly more reliable and use that as a loaner/backup.

Ya i was planning on using it as a loaner for buddies... plastic gear box? Oh well