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Zeonprime May 20th, 2010 15:39

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Originally Posted by flamethis (Post 1238968)
Well shit, I stand corrected then. I wasn't trying to be a dick, just saying that if nobody has tried it personally then they can't really comment on quality.

Good point :) Hope the shitty reply was funny though :)

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Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 1238971)
While there are rare exceptions to the rule, they're exactly that - rare. When you get replica products that are worthwhile, they generally cost more because they materials are of higher quality and more attention goes into the details. When something costs 1/4 of what the real thing costs, they had to cut come serious corners to get that.

That being said, many of the "real" products out there are stupidly overpriced as well. So sometimes a copy at half the price is just as good (or almost) as the real thing.

Crunch makes valid points. Phantom/Pantac is a great example of a knock-off being of great quality and material.

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Originally Posted by flamethis (Post 1238996)
I think I will order up a set next week. I'll put it to the torture test (sliding down hills, diving into the grass, crawling across some rocks) then wash it a bunch of times and see how it holds up. If I end up with bleached out shredded rags then I'll know to shut my mouth and listen next time. lol


There is something people buying knock off camo should also consider. IR treatment. Besides the fading, most fake camos show extremly bright under night vision. If you are never going to play a milsim or skirmish at night then you have no worries, but even the cheapest Nightvision will show you the fake camo.

ShelledPants May 20th, 2010 15:42

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Originally Posted by Zeonprime (Post 1239015)
There is something people buying knock off camo should also consider. IR treatment. Besides the fading, most fake camos show extremly bright under night vision. If you are never going to play a milsim or skirmish at night then you have no worries, but even the cheapest Nightvision will show you the fake camo.

I was going to mention this.

I have footage from our night game where one guy looks like a streetlight, and I didn't see his partner until he moved. Clothing which isn't IR treated, literally glows white under nightvision.

Not the greatest example, but this is something I shot on Gen3 Goggles (with my camera placed at the eyecup). It is PITCH black (I had to be guided by a buddy grabbing my vest because my natural night vision was washed from the camera screen), at 2:17, you can see the guy laying down, his vest is IR treated, but his camo isn't, and so it glows.

YouTube- Ghosts - Operation: Dusk Till Dawn - April 3-4 2010

Zeonprime May 20th, 2010 15:48

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Originally Posted by ShelledPants (Post 1239017)
I was going to mention this.

I have footage from our night game where one guy looks like a streetlight, and I didn't see his partner until he moved. Clothing which isn't IR treated, literally glows white under nightvision.

If it wasnt so cost prohibitive I would reskin my Huang Cyre Chassis with the real material. Thankfully my pouches cover a great deal of property (most have the IR coating) on the armour and I rarely get to play. maybe in my 2012 airsoft budget (If I bother doing that, then I'd do the MC webbing and IR treated buckles).

Gonzo Sleeper May 20th, 2010 16:03

I have bought camo from Airsoft-Club and have used it in a few games..only washed it once..No color loss or seams opening up yet. Only bad thing was when I washed it I found a button in the washer off one of the cargo pockets on my pants. Will say I can be hard on buttons so may have been me and not the product alone.

Rooster May 20th, 2010 23:46

Very cool info on (and video) about the IR. I can't see me doing a night Op in my area but it's good to know if it ever comes up..

Aurelien May 21st, 2010 04:41

I have a chicadpat boonie, and compared to my frontenacs, its shit. Color match is terrible, but hey, I wasnt expecting alot for 5USD.

Rugger_can May 21st, 2010 06:25

Theoretically IR Treated BDU's are not supposed to be for sale outside the US... "Theoretically"

Zeonprime May 21st, 2010 16:04

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Originally Posted by Rugger_can (Post 1239637)
Theoretically IR Treated BDU's are not supposed to be for sale outside the US... "Theoretically"

hahahaha...*cough* sorry not laughing AT you Rugger :) just at the not for sale outside of the US. specially considering Cadpat is IR treated.

HKGhost May 21st, 2010 16:38

I've put in a small order to test some of their products. I got the Airsoft Molle Triple Mag Pouch, a shemagh and gloves. I'll do a quick review on the mag pouch when it arrives.

Hades May 21st, 2010 16:41

I've used just about every type of CADPAT BDU that is available and can say that Frontenac and the Dropzone Ops BDU's are the only ones which show little to no fading. Frontenac fades a little after a shitload of washes and the Dropzone stuff does not fade at all. Parklands is complete shit


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