Why would I ruin my perfectly good, personal defensive weapon by turning it into a large shoulder rifle?

@Assault Pioneer: PDW aka personal defense weapon aka home defense weapon. It's not aimed at MIL/LE as they have much better options, but at civilians more than anything

@Tarobear: To mount optics/grips, get better control of the recoil, etc. There's not that many options for a .45 PDW on the civilian market.

http://www.hera-arms.com/cpe.php

In RS, you can also intall longer barrels that would be totally unusable on the pisol alone (shitty handling). Again, for a PDW it makes a lot of sense.

YouTube - Hera-Arms CPE Colt 1911A1 Carbine Conversion
Make that kind of follow-up shots on a RS .45 pistol while keeping good precision... I don't think it's easy without looooots of training.

Again, that's for the RS... but some of it still applies to airsoft.

pusangani, what happened to you.. i thought you were cool... :(

i guess you have lots of 'CLIPZ' too....

lol hellz yeh dawg!

jk, I say mags like everyone else, "deagle" is my guilty pleasure of laziness when typing, I don't say it when speaking, it's so much easier to type "deagle" than "desert eagle" :cool: <--- see I'm kool!

and @AP

yes it's kinda ridiculous, but for a cheap bastard like me, it's the closest I'll be to having a GBBR at least until the prices come down a bit :D

ok, well as long as you don't use 'deagle' while speaking i guess it's not _that_ bad..

like being touched in the naughty place by an ugly woman with a not body..

but still, Dude.. i've told people i know what a retarded thing saying that is.. and while i'm sure you enjoy your title, don't take it too seriously otherwise people will realise it's true.

;)

Hehe thanks for the words of wisdom :)

but what if you're in the dark with the ugly woman, then naughty place touching is kinda good right?

that or a bag over the head, or if you're thinking of her hot friend/sister..

then it's AAALLLL RIIIIIGGHHHHTTTT!

anyway, enough with the thread jacking, i wish something like this would be a clip-in system for my WA para :(

guess i'll have to go the glock route, anyone want a handgrenade? ;)

Do you guys think this would work with any other 1911 clones?

thanks

As long as it's a single stack, full size grip (so NOT a Detonics), yes. Since it's attached using the grip panels, it should fit pretty much any manufacturer.

Thanks, too bad there are no hi cap mags though---might go the glock route now

looks pretty cool to me.

It's been a while since i've looked at the internals of a tm 1911, but I could swear that you could fit the hi capa extreme internals into the 1911. Blowback unit for sure, get an aftermarket spring guide with buffers.... Not sure about the disconnector lever though.

Anyone wanna take a look at the disconnectors from a hi capa and 1911 for me?

TM 1911 with hi capa extreme internals for full auto, combined with the new 40 rnd mag they have for single stacks will do wonders with this kit

In concept, I can see this as being useable with real steel. Having a .45 platform that can be shouldered would help with accuracy and managing the recoil from that big round. But as was mentioned, this would be more of a range toy that a practical service weapon, even in the PDW role. The lack of select fire and the low ammo capacity would put this gun at a real disadvantage in the hands of those that would need to use it. Even if extended mags were made available, they would be of fairly low capacity because of the single stack design. Any mag of more than 20-ish rounds would be long and unweildy and quite heavy.

In airsoft, there's no reason this couldn't be used, although it would still put the user at a disadvantage against AEGs. In a pistol / shotgun only game, this would probably work well. I can't see this design being useful in any other role though.

As for looks. Well.... EEEEEEWWWWW.... As AP said, it looks like a paintball pistol.

Wheeeeeee necro. Did anyone pick one of these up in the end?

Looking at the vid Conker posted...what is the point of the 16" conversion kit with the barrel extender...might as well just use a UMP