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ThunderCactus January 18th, 2011 18:42

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Originally Posted by Dart (Post 1389726)
QFT. I have seen m14's out range VSR's and again if you miss you got another round coming right after it.

M4's are notorious for not being good range/accuracy platforms. Many AEG's can be on par with a fully upgraded M4's range and accuracy with minimal upgrades; IE M14, AUG, G3, AK
However that being said, I got my M4 to shoot pretty damn far, not as accurately as a VSR, but about 20ft short.

Your biggest factor on range and accuracy is going to be your gunsmith.

FPS means extremely little in the ways of range, but for best accuracy stick to 440fps and .30g BBs

If your going pro-sniper, go bolt action springer or go home. Nothing is as reliable or accurate as a finely tuned bolt action springer rifle.

sirtaco27 January 18th, 2011 18:57

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Originally Posted by Strelok (Post 1389755)
Its simple!

Accuracy through volume!

http://www.olive-drab.com/images/firearms_mg_m2_03.jpg

Wait a second.. We're talking about airsoft!

Dart January 18th, 2011 19:08

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Originally Posted by sirtaco27 (Post 1389868)
http://www.olive-drab.com/images/firearms_mg_m2_03.jpg

Wait a second.. We're talking about airsoft!

themz some nice sniper rifles. :D I motion to here forward call a m249 and m60 a sniper rifle as well!

AoiShikaku January 18th, 2011 19:23

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Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 1389855)
M4's are notorious for not being good range/accuracy platforms. Many AEG's can be on par with a fully upgraded M4's range and accuracy with minimal upgrades; IE M14, AUG, G3, AK
However that being said, I got my M4 to shoot pretty damn far, not as accurately as a VSR, but about 20ft short.

I believe he is talking about an m14 not an m4.
http://www.puertogun.com/images/m14.jpg

These guns can perform pretty well in terms of accuracy, but it really depends on what's inside. I can't say they perform just as accurately as an upgrade bolt action, but they sure can compete because they have a better rate of fire since you never have to pull a bolt back.

I still prefer a bolt action though... a lot more satisfying =)

SniperSam January 18th, 2011 19:25

Agreed, nothin like pulling the bolt back and chambering in a new round

Dart January 18th, 2011 19:34

not accuracy, consistency. No such thing as an accurate gun only an accurate shooter.

Sarge127 January 18th, 2011 19:51

Huh, Pro-Sniper? Interesting Name for a Sniper.
Anyways the Bolt action part would be a lot of money to put into. Then again the Semi-Auto snipers put up competition.
I'm going with Bolt-Action all the way! Going to Get Well L96 Spring Rifle with the most reliable upgrades yet! Maybe my dream bolt action sniper may come true!
:D

Strelok January 18th, 2011 19:56

Er,

Well, sure. But you'd honestly be better off getting a non clone dude.

Upgrades were made for the namebrand guns, not the clones. No matter how many upgrades you put into the gun it won't perform to spec.

However, if you go as far as replacing everything but the stock you're fine. But either way.

SniperSam January 18th, 2011 20:14

And the WELL L96 is not a wise choice, the internals are mediocre to say the least, the polymer it is made out of is craptacular, not to mention the countless hours/money you'll put into it to make it the same as a somewhat upgraded non-clone sniper rifle

AoiShikaku January 18th, 2011 20:15

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Originally Posted by Sarge127 (Post 1389909)
Huh, Pro-Sniper? Interesting Name for a Sniper.
Anyways the Bolt action part would be a lot of money to put into. Then again the Semi-Auto snipers put up competition.
I'm going with Bolt-Action all the way! Going to Get Well L96 Spring Rifle with the most reliable upgrades yet! Maybe my dream bolt action sniper may come true!
:D

Have fun buddy.. hope you are willing to dish out that kinda cash.

Here is my setup and you don't have to follow everything to detail, but will give you an idea of parts you'll be needing to pick up:


Well/TSD L96
- PDI 6.01 APS2 Type 96 inner barrel 495mm
- Prometheus 6.03 inner barrel 505mm (Alternative barrel depending on the field)
- 7x PDI inner barrel spacers (not necessary, but reduces barrel vibration)
- PDI hop up chamber
- Prometheus bucking
- PDI End Screw
- Laylax Type 96 Zero Trigger
- PDI Suppressor/Silencer Attachment (not necessary if you are not going to use a suppressor)
- PDI Black flat end barrel
- PDI Type 96 Palsonite Cylinder Set Vacuum Chamber
- PDI 120, 130, 180, and 210 Springs (I use the 180 the most [shy of 400 FPS]. I just keep the rest depending on the field)


Scopes, Bipod, sound proofing, sling, suppressor, etc. are all extra shit and is dependent on what you want to do with your gun. I'll leave that up to you to decide because everyone has their own personal preference.

SniperSam January 18th, 2011 20:27

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Originally Posted by AoiShikaku (Post 1389922)
Have fun buddy.. hope you are willing to dish out that kinda cash.

Here is my setup and you don't have to follow everything to detail, but will give you an idea of parts you'll be needing to pick up:


Well/TSD L96
- PDI 6.01 APS2 Type 96 inner barrel 495mm
- Prometheus 6.03 inner barrel 505mm (Alternative barrel depending on the field)
- 7x PDI inner barrel spacers (not necessary, but reduces barrel vibration)
- PDI hop up chamber
- Prometheus bucking
- PDI End Screw
- Laylax Type 96 Zero Trigger
- PDI Suppressor/Silencer Attachment (not necessary if you are not going to use a suppressor)
- PDI Black flat end barrel
- PDI Type 96 Palsonite Cylinder Set Vacuum Chamber
- PDI 120, 130, 180, and 210 Springs (I use the 180 the most [shy of 400 FPS]. I just keep the rest depending on the field)


Scopes, Bipod, sound proofing, sling, suppressor, etc. are all extra shit and is dependent on what you want to do with your gun. I'll leave that up to you to decide because everyone has their own personal preference.


So basically it isnt even a WELL/TSD anymore

AoiShikaku January 18th, 2011 20:31

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Originally Posted by SniperSam (Post 1389930)
So basically it isnt even a WELL/TSD anymore

Exactly, but if he is willing to use it as a base platform it makes a good and cheap enough shell. He did say he wants the most reliable upgrades and is basically what I did... lol.

I would prefer to build it than to buy it out of the box, but that's my personal preference.

Dart January 18th, 2011 20:59

Thing your going to find with the cheap rifles is either you need to do it all or none. And if you do none than you end up replacing than stuff starts to break one after another. If this is your main rifle get something that will work even though its not fully done. Nothing worse than going to cock your ba and... Slam fire... And yes it will ALWAYS happen when you have someone in your site.

sirtaco27 January 18th, 2011 22:53

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Originally Posted by Dart (Post 1389875)
themz some nice sniper rifles. :D I motion to here forward call a m249 and m60 a sniper rifle as well!

Its a M2 Browning .50 cal and they did put scopes on them in Vietnam to snipe. *facepalm*

Hurley895 January 19th, 2011 00:35

I 'd go for a TM VSR. the reason being it's the simplest to fix and understand the workings of. It's also cheap and easy to upgrade compared to the AEG guns.

Have a look around at each platforms failings as well, know the known problems of each gun before you buy.


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