Some military related items are restricted by the ITAR.
Some military related items are not restricted by the ITAR but some sellers thought they are.
Some military related items are restricted by the ITAR but some sellers don't give a ????.
Some military related items... God knows if they are restricted by the ITAR.
Plus the dealer agreement, and other Non-ITAR related issues......

In general, http://i.minus.com/iIgkSU28zOE4c.gif

^^^Seriously.....no one understands ITAR. I doubt the people who came up with it understand it. All it does it make Americans more paranoid and instead of working with it, decide not to bother with international sales at all. How many places down there won't even ship outside the US?... Besides, Canada is so insignificant when compared to the US market.

Hey Rush, I think I wore it in a light sprinkle and the water beaded off.

Call me greedy, but I was hoping Millbrook was going to stay pretty quiet on here. I want all the seconds to myself. I've bought other items from them and have been very happy with their service. Love supporting Canadian when they have cool stuff and great service.

I have couple of those seconds.

Living in Vancouver it is pretty easy for me to go to their factory store.

Sometimes, these jackets are " Sample " or size that no one wants !

they are awesome.

Can't agree more...
I still remember the time one fellow on ebay said to me "sorry, I can't ship these magazine pouches to Canada because of the ITAR"... Come on! I already got a real OTV vest and a bunch of bayonets from US, and now the pouches are too dangerous/sensitive to export?

It's cool that Millbrook is selling factory seconds but I think Arc'teryx is holding out on a lot of stuff.

Yeah, I would definitely love to take a trip to the outlet store in Vancouver one of these days. Too bad that won't be happening any time soon :(

Its funny, the same jacket that I bought was in grande prairie for 700$, it took 150$ to drive down and back in the wife's car, we stayed at her aunts, but a cheap hotel would have added another 100$, plus another couple of buck for food, I still managed to get it cheaper than at home

Oh I'm pretty sure I would make a trip out of it. No way I would drive 1700km's just for a few hundred bucks off a coat haha


Wait a minute...this reminds me of a time my fiancé drove there for a LuLuLemon sale. WTF?!?

we went to the lululemon store aswell, haha. and we made a week of it, but the only problem is that the store has no consistancy, i was talking to a kid that worked there and he said that they occasionally get leaf gear in. That being said there was a lot of Coyote brown jackets with black zips available that werent leaf but were still sweet deals. There is the chance you show up on the wrong week and all you find is blaze orange jackets

You guys need to find someone in N. Van to act as an eye on the ground for stuff like this.

Went to the factory/sample sale once and damn.... If I had money then I would have spent all of it on their gear. I try to avoid that place because I know that I'll be longing to buy all their gear. (Y U make such good stuff I always want Arc'teryx?)

Also very hard to find the mistakes on their jackets, either that or I didn't look hard enough.

No need for a new thread

Just wondering if anyone here has experience with the Arc'teryx LEAF Alpha Jacket. I picked one of the factory seconds up in an XL, and tried it on today to make sure it fits before I go ahead and wrap it up for Christmas (yes I bought myself a christmas gift). Before I bought it, I tried on other Arc'teryx jackets at a local store and from their sizing went with the XL. Now one would think the sizing wouldn't be much different, wrong. Turns out the bottom is tapered and ends about 3" below my belly button and looks ridiculously short on me. The rest of the jacket fits great and looks to be a real piece of quality kit. I just cant understand why it is so short in the front. Im wondering if others have this same problem, and if an XXL would be a better choice...or if I just have a freakishly long torso and should be looking at a different product.

Thoughts?

The XL is short to match the rest of the system (it's just one layer).

Get the XXL it should be long enough, that what I wear size wise I am 6'2" and 260. It goes around the gut and still goes below the belt line :D

The Alpha is short in the torso to allow for the usage of climbing harnesses. If you are looking for a longer cut then the Alpha parka is more your speed. The Alpha jacket is designed for a specific application

I have one. They are short. As pugs said, for climbing harnesses, for duty belts, for belt holsters, radios, all of that. It's a professionally-active jacket, so it's cut to suit that. On me at least mine covers me enough (i.e. gets below the top of my pants), and whatever top I have on under it keeps me from getting a draft