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ILLusion June 25th, 2007 11:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skladfin (Post 491448)
also, have anyone tried these kinds of barrels?

http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...s%20for%20AEGs

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=27059

Skladfin June 25th, 2007 16:39

I see... thanks!!

Jughead June 26th, 2007 22:19

What would you do in my shoes?

What is the difference between a Systema 120 Gearbox and a custom upgraded gear box with all the new technology and metal pieces.

Systema 120 Gearbox $310 + shipping CDN ( so $325 tops )

Compared too:

Prometheus MS120 spring --> $20

Systema Polycarbonate Piston --> $35

Silicon Piston Head --> $30

Deep Fire Metal Nozzle --> $10

Reinforced Tappet Plate -->$25.00

Tigh bore barrel --> unknown

Systema High Torque Gears --> HAVE

Systema Bearing Spring Guide --> HAVE

ICS 300 turbo and CA high torque motors --> HAVE

Metal bushings --> HAVE


Which way would you go?

I am thinking the best way is build my own...

But are their certain parts that I should order instead of what is listed.

Example- Polycarbonate Piston or Metal Piston

Naglfar June 26th, 2007 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 492807)
What would you do in my shoes?

What is the difference between a Systema 120 Gearbox and a custom upgraded gear box with all the new technology and metal pieces.

Systema 120 Gearbox $310 + shipping CDN ( so $325 tops )

Compared too:

Prometheus MS120 spring --> $20

Systema Polycarbonate Piston --> $35

Silicon Piston Head --> $30

Deep Fire Metal Nozzle --> $10

Reinforced Tappet Plate -->$25.00

Tigh bore barrel --> unknown

Systema High Torque Gears --> HAVE

Systema Bearing Spring Guide --> HAVE

ICS 300 turbo and CA high torque motors --> HAVE

Metal bushings --> HAVE


Which way would you go?

I am thinking the best way is build my own...

But are their certain parts that I should order instead of what is listed.

Example- Polycarbonate Piston or Metal Piston


Reinforced gearbox?

Jughead June 26th, 2007 23:29

No not yet, I have two mech boxes I want to snap before buying another reinforced.

1X TM
1X CA ( possibly reinforced ) came with the CA M15A4 2007 make.

I just had a Systema reinfoced gearbox snap in less than a year. And im not the spray the prey type player... I did have a 150% sping in it though. But prior to that , I had a 170% spring in a TM gearbox and it lasted a couple of years with lots of action.

I guess it all goes to if the metal cures properly and with how many metalurgy defects their are.

Skladfin June 27th, 2007 01:07

ive just ordered bunch of upgrades from WGC and chose ground shipping.

is WGC ground shipping trustable? I mean the guy keep reminding me that there's no guarantee, so he kinda scares me....

No one had any problems with WGC ground shipping? or does everyone really pay for that 50USD$ Express Shipping?

Jughead June 27th, 2007 01:10

I usually go ground shipping, and it takes about a week to come to your door. UN company gets their stuff to me by ground in 3-4 days.

But it also depends on what customs thinks.

What all did you order?

Skladfin June 27th, 2007 01:17

Guarder Steel Bearing with Double Oil Channel for All Marui AEG
Guarder Improved Hop Bucking ( 70 ) whats the 70 mean?
PDI Spring 130 for all AEGs ( 140% seemed kinda scary )
Marui 0.2g BB ( 3500 Pellets ) X3 bags
KM 6.04mm TN Inner Barrel for M4A1 (I wanted to go with something without coating and cheaper too but this one was the only 363mm barrel to be in stock)

the guy really scares me when I told him I want ground shipping. First, he changes the payment method to bank transfer(no problem), but then he tells me "no guarantee". Ya that's fine but he then says "it WILL take 60days to arrive"

so I just changed to Airmail, he scares me too much.

And I've been telling him to add the barrel to the order for 3 days now, 1 reply per day through email, and he just ignores my request for the item to be added to the order =(

I hope he gets this one right.

Jughead June 27th, 2007 01:28

He probably gets 100 and some emails a day. So its not that he is ignoring you, just getting his stuff together.

I always use Paypal... best way to go, i feel

Skladfin June 27th, 2007 01:31

he's not ignoring me actually, he recognizes everything else EXCEPT for the request for the barrel.

But I do understand that he gets a lot of orders and doesn't have time for everything *shrug*

But I really hope he gets it right, since this is my first internal upgrade.

ILLusion June 27th, 2007 03:04

Maybe if you followed order policy, you'd get that barrel on there.

Submit a new order to add/remove items.

I've done surface shipping from WGC on multiple occassions. Some orders took as little as 2 weeks. Some took as long as 6 months. It just depends on whether the boat takes a detour and ends up in Africa or not... lol.

Omi-san June 27th, 2007 05:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skladfin (Post 492930)
ive just ordered bunch of upgrades from WGC and chose ground shipping.

is WGC ground shipping trustable? I mean the guy keep reminding me that there's no guarantee, so he kinda scares me....

No one had any problems with WGC ground shipping? or does everyone really pay for that 50USD$ Express Shipping?

I lot of stores (aside from airsoft) in the US want you to pay extra for UPS, Fedex or other useless delivery services. Some don't ever offer regular USPS shipping at all, and when they do, they give these warnings about long delays or parcel getting lost to scare you away.

I've bought thousands of things on the internet during the last decade and nothing beats USPS and Canada Post. They are faster and cheaper, it's as simple as that.

Skladfin June 27th, 2007 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLusion (Post 492963)
Maybe if you followed order policy, you'd get that barrel on there.

Submit a new order to add/remove items.

I've done surface shipping from WGC on multiple occassions. Some orders took as little as 2 weeks. Some took as long as 6 months. It just depends on whether the boat takes a detour and ends up in Africa or not... lol.

lol...

anyways he got it right this time, and I'm going to the bank today to transfer the money.

Even though I used Airmail this time I think I'm gunna go with ground next time since you guys have such a positive comment about it :P

Thanks alot, I will post again when I receive the items and upgraded it.

Skladfin June 28th, 2007 00:37

Quote of the thingy:

Your Order==========ItemNo Item Qty Cost Remark
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
GD-PT-GE0501 Guarder Steel Bearing with Double Oil Channel for All Marui AEG 1 11.60
GD-PT-GE0702 Guarder Improved Hop Bucking ( 70 ) 1 3.00
KM-AEP15XB KM 6.04mm TN Inner Barrel for M4A1/SIG551/XM177E2 1 47.00
PDI-SP-130S PDI Spring 130 for all AEGs ( exclude PSG-1 ) 1 15.00
TM-BB-020 Marui 0.2g BB ( 3500 Pellets ) 4 34.00 ================================================== ==============================
Pay By : Paypal
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subtotal USD : USD110.60
Shipping Cost : USD55.00(Holy shit) - Speedpost EMS
Total with Shipping : USD165.60

The difference between airmail and express was only $9... so I might as well, and I paid with paypal, too lazy to go to the bank, and takes too long to transfer, I've wasted enough time dealing with him to get me my barrel :P

But he's really nice and enthusiastic :)

bruce July 5th, 2007 22:34

Never order BBs from overseas by air. You've got about 3 kg of bbs in that 4 bags which is why you're paying $55 USD in shipping.


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