Really? Hah! You'll own one before me.

Except I'm paying alot less than you are.

You son of a bitch you're kidding right

All PTW's manufactured after August 2006 have 6.04mm tightbores; Max's AND Generation 3's.

You know the right choice, school first, fun later.

I guess it depends when the Gen 3 was bought. There are a few in Canada that came in before this date. And the ones that came via Redwolf, who knows how old they actually are.

I'm working like a damn dog to afford one. But I see it as a good investment. Much better than investing in a "toy marui" (as mcguyver stated in another thread).

Let's just hope they're still around by late october :(

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Daddy?

Come to think of it, it would explain a lot.

OHSHI- Does that make Aqua my mom?

Conceived on the battlefield.

No not true. I would never spend that much as i don't believe in Systema's. I have yet to be proven wrong, even after handling one in NY. Don't get me wrong, they are AWESOME, but to me, they don't explain the high price tag.

Maybe those new one's are different, but i'm not gonna put $2000 on the line to see.

Enjoy your PTW's everyone :p

A Ferrari is just another car to someone who needs wheels to get to work. And an overpriced car at that.

But when you want performance, the old Civic is no match for the Ferrari and if you want the performance, you have no choice but to buy the Ferrari.

But at $2k+ per gun who in their right mind wouldn't sell 3 or 4 stock Maruis for a PTW? Unless you don't like flexibility, performance, a rock solid gun? I sold 17 other guns to get the ones I have and would do it again in a heartbeat.

I guess there must be guys out there like that, but I ain't one of them!!

I'v driven a Ferrari, heck my Father owned one for a certain number of years (until some fucker stole it...). I see and understand what you mean. I love sport cars, and to me i wouldn't mind dishing out the money for one. Heck i'v spent so much money on my Stang i could have bought another car!

But to me, when i tried the Systema i didn't feel it was worth the money. Even less the inflated Canadian price. Sorry :)

Maybe the new one's are different (never seen or used one) but i wouldn't buy any of the old one's.

Edit: Now if i had the money laying around and their's nothing else to buy, i WOULD buy one of the new one's. But if theirs a decision (buy x thing before the systema etc etc) the other things would be bought first.

Take a "toy Marui" G36/AK and upgrade it with the right parts and it'll kick the shit out of the PTW MAX in accuracy. We know because we've tested them.

The PTW is a great gun but it still can be improved where accuracy is concern. That's why they are several ways where PTW owners have developed their own mods to use AEG inner barrels/packing to get the same accuracy like their tuned AEGs.

Do you really need to get a PTW? If you're a player that shoots moderately and knows how to work on your guns, IMO, no. If you have the cash to spring for it, go for it. The bells that come with the PTW are pretty shiny.

Well, Bruce, you can get an AEG to be more accurate than a PTW. You can get an AEG to be more powerful than a PTW. You can get an AEG to do either of those things for alot less than the cost of a PTW.

But you can't get an AEG to do both of those things, be as flexible and durable as PTW. Not for any kind of money. That's the secret to it's success.

Bah, one of these days there'll be a Chinese clone selling for $399 anyways, so then it'll be PTWs for the masses.

I'm in for accuracy... <3 my SR-25 :P

The only reason why I have a PTW Max is so that I can play in the winter with an AR and not worry about cracking the mechbox. I just love ARs. I have 7 of them but they all have a weak mechbox design. Haven't tried the Prowin CnC mechboxes. I can live with a lesser accuracy to gain a superior mechbox design in the PTWs.

I'm still happy that I purchased a PTW. Can't say that about my other team-mate that purchase one also.