thanks for all your input... i'm gonna keep shopping...

Yes, a stock gun is good to start with. A stock TM is going to be 280 FPS-ish.

When you'll be there at Action Commando, checkout SHOOTsoft.ca's stock, they're bringing low cost AEGs for people to check out. I'm pretty sure you'll find something in there.

i know shootsoft dose not have tm's but shootsoft has jgs they shoot 380 out of the box and you can buy metal bodys on the fourms all the time. if not get a hold of ken at 007 airsoft to get a tm

he can get a better selection of AEG with 007 or shootsoft rather than getting it
from buyairsoft;)

What I said had nothing to do with that. He was looking for a TSD, which no retailer has.

Get aged verified and you'll find better products at comparable prices in the buy sell board.