Thanks for the info. I woulda completely overlooked that and ran into problems otherwise.

I have had the plate for a while now. The original plastic plate actually absorbs the force a little by bending slightly on impact. The metal one absorbs almost no force and transfers all of the force to part 27. Because of this part 27 will explode after one magazine. Deadlydayne is making a cnc'd part 27 to remedy this once and for all.

The force will carry through part 27 then into the stock of the gun and then into your shoulder.

So, I decided on the WE M4 CQB-R. I tried one out and I absolutely fell in love with the gun. Thanks to my buddy who drove 6 hours so that I could try the gun.

I ordered it from Velocity on Wednesday and was told it would be here in about 5-7 business days, like I will believe that. Now all I have to do is wait, and suffer, while I wait for my newest addition to arrive lol...

as a few on this board will be quick to point out and flame me for, I am an Avid WE hater, but its not like I haven't given them a chance, so this is completely without bias

I had a KJW M4
It ran amazingly, after thousands of shots there was little to no wear on the internals, the rubber bands break but you can use an actual rubber band, or cut one from a tire inner tube, but the hopup was inconsistent and finicky, sometimes the BBs would rocket downward after 25 feet and the next would go 150 feet perfectly, but the only mechanical issue i had was caused by my own negligence

Ive tried 4 different WE rifles, both open bolt and closed bolt, and have never NOT had issues with any of them, but the only one that I have managed to get shooting well enough to game reliably has been the M4 closed bolt, my scar broke everything and the hopup never worked properly (that's not scar specific though), the M14 broke everything, the trigger and hammer on the G36 wore out a few days after i got it (used) and it would run away full auto, and the hopup nub was HUGE and it would overhop .36s turned completely off, and once I replaced that, occasionally it would spit BBs

my M4 I just traded for a few days back so I don't know how long it will last, I'm not hoping for much based on my previous experiences, but for now it shoots pretty straight and reliably, but it has an upgraded hopup and barrel, and WHEN (not "if") the trigger box internals wear out Ill swap them out to RAtech then I should be fine

If you want a WE AWSS to last forever, buy a full RAtech trigger kit, one of a few hopups if it needs it, and if you have any nozzle jamming/sticking issues in the brass tube (not BB jamming) you may have to pumice down the larger Oring so it will work smoother, mine was over-sized and would start jamming after the first 20-30 shots got it cold and harder

Or just don't fiddle with it if it ain't broke! :rolleyes:

I dont, BTW didnt your M4 keep jamming while we were playing with it?

Nope, chopped a few BB's cause I was using too light A weight but no jamming on that one or the other 2 I have. If you hate WE so bad why did you get another one...?

Thanks for the info. I love working on guns so I don't think I will mind fixing everything that breaks.

The RA-Tech internals are something that are on my list, but have not yet been able to find. I see lots of NPAS units around, but not the trigger kits.

Airsoftparts.ca has it. They also have a bunch of internals seperately.

I have NO idea...
the M14 I just really wanted, and the SCAR was before I knew better, but hte other 2 were just good deals that I couldnt pass up so....

I think the SCAR was likely the biggest mistake WE ever made. Why they didn't work out the problems with it, before making it available, is beyond me. And to think, they pretty much repeated the same mistake with the PDW, which I hear is notorious for breaking, in the same area as the SCAR, when run on C02.

if you get the RA tech open bolt kit, it comes with a RA tech trigger set, and i believe it also comes with a RA tech cocking handle, but dont quote me on that. Ive been thinking about getting one of these systems as well as the open bolt upgrade and an NPAS to start. A friend of mine brought to my attention an issue with the bolt breaking fairly easy and the lower reciever being rather fragile. Just wondering if anyone has any opinions or experiance with these problems, or if anyone knows if the ver 3 has this problem? probably going to change out to the RA tech parts as soon as i get it, or maybe wait until something breaks, anyway, any opinions?

does not come with a charging handle. maybe you were thinking of the bolt catch.

ah you are correct, thanks for catching me on that one