+1, you can find Crye, Propper, Arc'teryx ( at least ) in CANSOFCOM ;)

do they also use crye airframe helm?

Based on the pictures available....prob not. Take a look through the thread, yourself, dude.

I bet that guy knows what he's talking about^^

Add 5.11 to that list as well, which is quite visible in the pics I took back in 2013 (and were published here earlier).

You're right Connker, As I know, in a very few time, a three letter unit will receive some 5.11 BDUs, specially modified for them in MC and Paraclete gear. I can't say more.... ^^

The dudes on the Hill getting issued MC is old news, and they've had Paraclete for a while now.

I know that.... I'm talking about new Paraclete products.....

Sorry I'm just double-checking to make sure in case I missed them. My conclusion from all the media everyone's posted is that practically the only observable differences in terms of gear from the multicam kit that distinguishes CSOR from non-CANSOFCOM multicam SOF kits will be the helmet: CSOR uses FAST while in the States they(DEVGRU, CAG) use AirFrame.

DEVGRU uses Ops core Helmets, CAG is going to that too. ;)

DEVGRU uses FAST, and 1st SFOD-D uses AirFrames.
Mark Owen answered a question about it and this is what he has said, and I believe anything he says.

I like my Mark Owen with a grain of salt.

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...29&oe=56F57FB1

Apparently this is CSOR at kasotc

I can probably count on my finger the number of Airframes I've seen worn by U.S. Forces. However, if you're looking at a photo and trying to narrow it down based on the fact the unit in question was issued Opscores, you are going to be hard pressed to narrow it down very much.

The Rabintex line of helmets is certainly more of a flag when distinguishing our boys from our southern neighbours.

He's DEVGRU, not Canadian I know, but clearly his jacket is CADPAT Arid so I'm posting to find info on the jacket.
Looks like an impossible to find CADPAT Arid PCU, haha.
http://i.imgur.com/7hsMGPr.jpg

The one pictured with the CADPAT Arid PCU is actually CAG, not DEVGRU.

Well shit, I guess Seal Future Fund was wrong haha

Squad shitttt



http://i.imgur.com/NOlRFrD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OXUvKo9.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kuogjxu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/FZyLXBr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1UEy3n9.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/D9SCE4y.jpg

What the FUCK is that in the last picture? I wouldn't want it sneaking into my sleeping bag at night

It's the skull and spine of a large dead animal LOL

So, at one time CAG used AOR1?, as for the jacket it's a dropzone tactical Reece smock in CADPAT AR, you can tell buy the shoulder pockets. They were the only ones to make them like this, the rest of both issued/non-issued makers used a more conventional pocket design.
R711

SASS Kit did AR smocks back in the day as well. Got one.

There was a freakout when they started wearing it too much.

The guy in the background is a SEAL.

Yeah someone in the Gear Q&A FB page told me already. I searched it up, couldn't find any images but I did come across a thread from 2011 about selling them for $450 from the company. But I imagine people want a lot more than that for them now... Only a small amount was made, no mention on the exact number.
A guy said his friend picked one up for $950, so even if I could find one, there's no way it would be anywhere near $500 and under haha :'(

ArktisUSA on ebay still has a few AR smocks left
. I have one they are great quality.

By the way, from here and other photos of the operators, can you guys identify the plate carriers they are wearing?

I'm unfamiliar with the minimalist/light plate carriers, so I hope you guys cans shred some light of what I'm looking at.

The only I know are the CAGE and 6094, but not sure if CSOR uses them.

https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.h...f=90&t=1107177
The sleeve pockets are the dead give away, plus I was there when he stated he was shipping some of these smocks to Dam Neck and Ft Bragg.
I have owned 3 of DZ Reece smocks, still own the CADPAT TW one, also owned then sold the SASS kit smock, that I regret selling.
R711

I'd rather the DZ because of the velcro shoulders.
Thanks though!

Aww yes, I just added Velcro to mine easy stich. Enjoy I hope you find one the odd one does show up on ebay once in a blue moon.

does anyone know what plate carrier CSOR uses? 6094? NCPC? CPC?

I've seen a variety.

6094 both slick and molle, S&S Plateframe, FCPC, APC etc.

Pretty much anything low profile.

How about CPC? Crye CAGE Plate Carrier?

CPC & AVS both seen:

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politi...nder-the-radar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhoJ0RyPpxs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7_U-1PZjwY

I didnt watch through very thoroughly, but are you sure those arent some variant of the TYR Pico? I saw some JPCs, but not so sure about AVS or CPC. I definitely saw some Picos which also can have skeletal cummerbunds, but are different in the back where where they are secured to the back plate bags. Also, I personally havent spotted the typical tell of an AVS or a CPC which is the quick release buckle on the shoulder strap.

But then again, i could b wrong. I'll give it another look through when i have time

Update: yea....i couldnt confirm a single AVS or CPC in any of those vids. Definitely saw TYR Picos, JPCs, and some lowpro PCs though. I believe others confirmed the same previously in this thread, or some other CANSOFCOM related thread.

Great! Then that means by getting the CPC I can do the impression for CSOR or CAG.

I wonder if the CAG also uses the 6094..

Damn, yeah, you're right!
I assumed they were AVS/CPCs because of the zipper. Forgot that TYR makes zippered backs as well...

Definitely TYR:
http://i.imgur.com/Tr0oUgo.png

Are you a purist?
Because from what I've seen and read, CSOR wears and uses whatever they see fit. So technically speaking, you can choose whatever gear to run unless you're trying to do a impression of a specific operator.

https://youtu.be/RhoJ0RyPpxs?t=6m32s

This video at this segment seems to show them wearing a CPC, but if you guys can identify it clearly as something else then that's alright too

I'm borderline a purist. While there's always the "SOF can wear anything" rule, I try to play closer to true authenticity of things as much as I can as I consider it also a form of respect I'm paying to them. That aside, I do mix in slightly my own elements of slight creativity to my own liking but within realistic/reasonable bounds so I have a healthy mix of originality/persona in my kit, along with practicality, and realism in it. Of course it then becomes fun to share my story as it's got its own backstory or effort that I've put into it, kinda like how sometimes I read posts of members sharing their stories of obtaining a kit or building a gun, which is always quite fun.

Anyways I'm rambling off but yeah back to what you're saying, I'm kinda trying to create a kit that I feel identifies with the characteristics of specific units, namely the CSOR and CAG in this case. (I like the secrecy and elitism of CAG, while CSOR cuz I'm Canadian) I happen to have a HK 416 and C8A3, and I felt CPC, or Crye, is much more a CAG thing, so if CSOR uses it too, then it's the best of both worlds. I'm also slightly more into the beefy ruggedness(my last vest was the RAV) and slightly on the rarity index too, so CPC (which I'm getting tomorrow) seems to match it. I do like the 6094 too but since that rig is going at a decent price, I might consider buying the real thing in the future. That said, I'm not into anything lighter than the 6049 such as JPC, FCPC, or other newer vests that's starting to look very skeletal.

http://www.tyrtactical.com/products/...plate-carrier/

I'd go with the CPC regardless. I'm trying to trade my 6094 for one :P
CAG isn't the only American unit using Crye. From what I read in the Military Gear Q&A FB page, LBT lost their contract with USSOCOM. Almost every recent photo I've seen, it's either JPC or AVS/CPC.

Thanks for pointing it out! I'm surprised they all look the same these days...the vests

CSOR operators receive some Paraclete stuffs in their basic instruction, and after they can use "what they want". Some of them are "Gucci" and like to use all the latest stuff, many of them just use what seems to be useful for the job. A friend of mine used a simple Paraclete HPC for the CQB mission and some chest rig he bought at Americans SF. Almost same shit for the guns, paint and helmet ;)

@ Raven: CAG doesn't seems to use 6094 or like but it's not impossible, AWS makes one, and CAG and AWS are "closed" ;)

How come we don't see Crye-cut Arid clothing with our SOF?

As I know they don't often use AOR or like but mostly MC, Tan, Cadpat ( arid or woodland ) or civilian. AOR1 and Cadpat are so close, there is no asset to buy Crye.
;)

Thanks! The "closed"?
Oh and I had completed my kit. I shall share some pics soon

I think he meant closer.

Tried Arid, couldn't find a colour to match the pinkish part so I bought what I felt was the closest, but it's pretty off, haha.
The light tan and brown seem to be a good match though!

http://i.imgur.com/H78ngKl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0N03j3M.jpg

Yup, thx FAZR, good job on your optics ;)



CAG and Canadian Special Forces train often together.

6094 coyote tan, FAPC camel tan, JPC multicam, TYR PICO MV multicam, RAV smoke green, HPC coyote?

FAPC, RAV and HPC? - for older times

Hey guys, there is now a Facebook group for anyone looking for info or wanting to share their inspired or impressions: https://www.facebook.com/groups/203340260005244/

What do we call that crazy looking rig we've been seeing? The name escapes me, and I can't seem to find it

S&S Plateframe?

Yes! Thanks you helpful onlooker!

the guys wearing airframes and the headset hooks (or whatever you call them).. are they csor too?

No. This guy not from csor

2 final questions to wrap the day up(assessing the accuracy of my kit)

http://i.imgur.com/JpzoO9H.jpg

Is he wearing Maritime?

http://storage.northumberlandtoday.c...=1430011684766

Is he wearing those radio headset hooks on his helmet?

Based on the pictures, it's most likely that the guy with the Airframe and Peltor Arc Rails is CSOR, or some sort of CANSOF. He is holding a C8 IUR. Note that he is also using an S&S Precision Plate Frame, which has also been seen in use by CSOR operators.

Helmet wise, It is very difficult to tell if he is wearing an Ops Core Maritime. The key difference is the length of the downward section of rail on the back. Maritime rails are slightly longer than the regular FAST Ballistic, Carbon, or Base Jump arc rails. I would say they are using FAST Ballistics based on current available media.

Yes, he was CSOR.
I followed his IG account until he deactivated it.

thanks. so that means there's a confirmation they also use airframes then

That is one dude out of however many using one airframe. Given the current information available, that is all that can be said about its usage. Whether it should be considered kosher is in the grey zone.

I agree with Arch on this, it was more than likely a private purchase by him.

Seen this on IG the other day, forgot to upload it here.

http://i.imgur.com/qBvSowC.jpg

Got some new info!
Crye Precision CPC & Ronin Tactics ALs are confirmed kosher.
Kosher boots: Hanwag Yukon, Lowa Banff, Lowa Desert Elite, Salomon GTX Mid & Mid 2, and La Sportiva Ganda Guide. A lot of them also like wearing Converse Chucks and those limited edition AOR1 Vans.
From what I was told, they wear whatever they want and can use whatever gear they want. Everything but body armour can be privately purchased (helmets don't count as body armour).

Random info that you probably wont care about:
The TYR PCs that we see a lot of them wearing are actually the issued PC for CSOR.
Majority of the team guys prefer Plateframes and JPCs. 6094's are considered "last gen" and "OG".
And most of you probably already assumed/knew this, but MultiCam is the official CANSOFCOM camo.
The reason why Canada doesn't have Crye Precision CADPAT is because CP stopped doing small orders, and Canada would only need a small amount so they cheap'd out for MC. Also, the team guys prefer MC over CADPAT TW & Arid, and not just because of the colours, but because they're poorly made which I think most Canadian's already know, haha.

Just an FYI I noticed this on ebay today a RBH Rabintex with NVG mount. It was 750UDS but a very rare item (its not mine btw post is just for fyi to you guys)

Yeah, me and Shadow are pretty confident that it's Diho's ad haha

The Toronto Star did an article on CANSOFCOM so...

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...ned-knife.html

Mmmmmmmm... IUR Love! Thank you for posting these!

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Enjoy!

http://www.ctv.ca/video/player?vid=898685

Thanks for the video Stryker!

Some CSOR footage from the 2016 Warrior Competition at KASOTC

Notable gear:

Danner Tachyon boots in Tan (2:39, 2:44)
Blue Force Gear PLATEminus (2:40)
Crye Precision JPC (3:21, 3:40)
Tyr Tactical PICO-MVW-DA w/ 3-Band Cummerbund (3:47)

Can anyone ID the plate carrier @ 4:11 and 4:48 (left)?
EDIT: thank you Stormblitz for ID-ing the Tactical Tailor Fight Light Plate Carrier

No worries!!!

Nice find! The other carrier CSOR is using is a Tactical Tailor Fight Light Plate Carrier.

Has anyone seen a reupload of the latest W5 report? I'm outside the country thus can't stream it from CTV.

Random find on youtube......by the look of the unit patch on right arms, looks to be JTF2......not sure if this is the right thread, or if this is a duplicate (I haven't seen it anywhere else on here, and I'm wrong more than I'm right)....you be the judge!

Reference pic to unit patch

It is JTF2. This is apart of the video Conker was looking for on the other page.

Full video of the report is here: http://www.ctvnews.ca/w5/w5-delivers...isis-1.2959109

TY, Finally a link to that W5 report that doesn't require a subscription!

Sweeet. Thanks!

What rails does CSOR or JTF2 use? Looking to start a impression loadout. Currently I have a magpul MOE rail, have they ever used it?

I've never seen the MOE rail in any imagery myself but I can't say for sure. The standard drop in rails with triangle sight is common still. One image shows a URX rail but it's the only one I've ever seen.

More and more frequently CSOR has been seen rocking Colt Canada's Integrated Upper Receiver (IUR) which is a octogonal free float rail incrporated right into the upper receiver. There is no close airsoft or repro version of this Upper at this time.


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This is one of the best images of the newer CANSOFCOM C8 IUR taken by Larry Vickers on a trip to Ontario a few years back.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...0e31420652.jpg

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Screenshots from the recent W5 "Canada's Commandos" episode:

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...d7992a36c0.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...93f2f08e42.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...6a234a607f.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...cfb6dbf012.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...d1e363ca2f.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...328beb7999.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...1bc54ef9ef.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...c383698085.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...6184bab4f4.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...9ed8a016f8.jpg

PS. You'll notice that I blurred any recognizable faces. I realize these guys have been all over the news now but I still didn't feel comfortable posting still images that could be "studied" for longer periods of time compared to a brief minute or two on a TV screen.

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LC also check out the galleries and builds featured in the Colt Canada C8/C7/L119 Builders thread:

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=171871

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@ShadowTwoSix

yes I saw that rail, I was looking for one of those. Sadly as you say no repo version of it. I actually would love it because I use a c-clamp because thats the most comfortable for me.

Sending you a PM! :)

Thanks pictures definitely help break down!

Shameless Plug time (I don't work for them)

If you guys need the IR flags seen I know where you can get coughcough Commercially available pro grade IR Flags coughcoughcontractorcoughcough
http://www.patchpanel.ca/flags/canad...lag-green.html

they might be sold out right now but they'll back sooner rather then later.

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...12429164_o.jpg

What does the A stand for?

Most likely blood type.

Looks like a A POS blood type patch on his helmut

"OG".....Sweet. I'm a rap song now...lol

https://www.facebook.com/CanadianFor...1215729438953/

CSOTC Video

Hey, I'm in that video LOL.

I saw dude! lol

Hey guys!
I've contacted HAO about the Vortex SBV, and they're down to make it as long as we meet 20 buyers!

SO,
Price: $50 USD per flash hider (without shipping)
Construction: 4140 Steel
Inner thread: -14mm (IF YOU WANT +14mm THREADING TELL ME THAT, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT)
Outside thread: 22 x 1.0

Since the manufacture is waiting for 20 buyers in advance, the wait time will be long.

After they are made, they will be shipped to me, and I will contact all buyers and discuss shipping.

So if truly interested, message me for PayPal info! And don't forget to say if you want +14mm threading for your PTW!!

http://i.imgur.com/h9US2mR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XjjhZtz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/utfspLo.jpg

thanks! can you also get them to build the that barrel portion as well?

Sorry but that is absolutely not JTF2. That is CSOR during Op Impact. The patch on his right arm is a CSOR patch created specifically for Op Impact.

Here is a clear photo of the patch.

Possibly, but they might cost more since the want for a collar would be less than the flash hider itself. Recce rifles don't use them, and some people already have them made like ShadowTwoSix.