Do you have a dejamming rod?

i dont. i took it apart and have the unner barrel in my hand right ow and i see a bit of dust

Played for the first time with my 10/22 this year. Hopup adjustment was even worse than last year (which was pretty good actually). Finally ordered a RATECH hopup rubber and I'll put that in next week to hopefully make it much better.

yes i just read the form and took my gun apart and washed the hop up rubber in lukewarm soapy water. anything else should be done before i put it back?

my hop up does not seem to even function, it just goes straight 150-200 feet and then hits the ground with using reallyshitty .28's. i put my gun back together yesterday and it worked fine, minus the hop up.

Buy a Ra-tech hopup sleeve.

150-200 feet is pretty far. Fairly near the max effective range of the gun.
If your hopup wasn't working, it would go about 30 or 40 feet.

and dont use shitty ass BBs and dont use 28s....

ya im waiting for some bb bastards and my mom decided to pick up the shittiest brand of 0.28's known tpo man. visible black marks on it.

if you value your gun and its internals you will burn them. never put crap through your gun if you actually care about it and want it to be accurate.

ya im throwing them out as i type this. i just needed them for one game so i would have bb's to use. it was either that or 0.2's. i have a test pack from bb bastard coming in soon that has a bunch of diffrent weights, so i can get the best bb's for my gun.

No pictures in the last 6 pages .... enough with the talk, more pics.

This isn't a media thread, it'sa discussion thread. If you want a media thread for the KJW 10/22, start one in the Airsoft Media section.

Agreed. If I had a 10/22 I'd post lots of pics. Especially with a sexy M1 carbine kit. ::cool:

so buy one. but personaly i think the M1 kit is ugly as sin.

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...11665559_n.jpg

lol

Ok, after reading all this, I should be able to get 400ish fps on .20's if I throw in my new hop up and use propane? I'm wanting to use my 10/22 at Claybank, if not I'll have to use something else.... :(

After i do the conversion mine shoots about 436fps on .2s when chronied with 36s

you that is to high for the field play with duster, it will drop it down to game able levels

Duster it is then....Thanks Viperfish.

Well 3 out of 4 of my mags are useless now. They popped/leaked, which I usually fix just by opening them up, oiling, and screwing them back together nice and tight.

However the threads in the screw hole are now stripped and they won't seal.

That is really shitty Styrak, hmm I'm not sure how you would get them out?

And tonight, I have figured out that a M4 Npas system works perfect in the 10/22, it has the same flow valve and such!

Have you tried retapping the whole? i had the same problem and retapped and now im fine, however id recommend resealing them so you dont have to worry about them popping anymore. thats what i have been doing to all of mine.

how did you do it?

Just a matter of buying the part and seeing if it fits, iv toyed with the idea of putting one in mine, but i haven't really felt a need for it

Yeah its the exact setup as the M4 so I just put it in. With things like this, it's just trial and error sometimes....

Added some new toys to mine.

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4638/p6101947.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2970/p6101950.jpg

Swapped out the Magpul sights in favour of the Arms sights, i liked the look better and they were smaller so they would night get in the way of the laser. Put on a PAQ4C for when im using my PVS14 and added a Surefire Scout for when i need light. Finally i put on a Tromix Shark Muzzle Brake just because i like the look of it.

Stock bolt broke so i throw in the RAtech steel bolt, i like the look of it better then the stock one too.

What are you suggesting exactly? Retapping the hole and getting a screw with bigger threads? The screws for these mags are pretty specific I would think...

yup that exactly what im saying, then just get a machine screw that is the correct length, finding one that long wont be hard. I had to do it to one of my mags

Where would I get a tapper/rethreader or whatever? Same place as the screw, Home Depot or something?

What you need is a Tap and Die set, just make sure the set you get has the smaller sizes, ideally you want one with machine screw threads. Best bet is to find the right length of screw first, then fine a tap to match the threads

So something like this then? Also what do you use it with? A drill?

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/13-p...die-set/918600

yup, its done by hand

Do you need a vice too?

It wouldn't hurt, but its not really needed.

Then how do you keep your screw or screw hole steady etc and use any kind of torque with it?

i used my hands but like i said a vice will make it easier.

If you want to do it properly, a drill press is best, matched with a self aligning tap handle and a pressure bit. Don't forget the cutting oil.

As for the tap itself, you don't need a full tap and die set. Dies are used for creating the male thread, which you'll have no need for in this case. If all you're doing is tapping a single hole and you have no need to tap other holes in the near foreseeable future, you can just buy a single tap for the thread you need and for your specific material (aluminum) from KBC Tools. They'll also carry the handles, pressure bit, and alignment tools, and you should be able to get all this for about the same price as that Ryobi tap & die set from Home Depot. If you want to go balls out, you can get a drill press from them too, but because of the weight, you could just grab it from your local Rona/Home Depot.... or just do it by hand. :P

The tap, you'll also want a bottoming tap, since the magazine is not a through-hole. Most taps are meant for through-holes. If you don't use a bottoming tap, you may not have enough thread length for the screw to go to depth.

As for the process, with bottoming holes, don't forget to use the "3 turns in, 1 turn out" rule to clear out all flash. If it packs in at the bottom, it can create problems, as well as create rough threads. And again, lots of cutting oil. Make sure you clean out all the cutting oil after you're done, as that stuff will melt rubber right before your very eyes.

Find the screw/bolt first, then get the tap to match it's specific thread. Once you find the tap, then search online drill size charts to get the matching drill bit (or in this case, a reamer is better) for that tap size to create the perfect hole. Again, KBC Tools should have the size you want, and with basic drill bits, you can find them for less than $3 at the exact size you need.

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Thankyou Illusion for saying all of what i was to lazy to say :p

what is the difference between the kc-02 version 1 and version 2? aside from the threaded barrel on the v1 and flip sights on v2, are there any other notable differences? any improvements to the insides, e.g. action etc

Im assuming you mean the one on Evike, if so no it has a longer mag and flip up sights.

The normal one also has the threaded barrel tip...

As for the insides, you cant improve on something thats already perfect

Nah, I was looking at ehobby and uncompany, which both list version 1 and version 2. Actually, I just checked evike and it lists similar.

but thanks :)

The only advantage over the v2 would be the long mag but you dont need it. i use both types.

K with all this talk about version 1 and version 2 i'm wondering what version i have cause i just my KJW ruger 10/22 a couple days ago and it has a threaded barrel, flip up sights and comes with a long mag instead of the short mag?

If it comes with a short mag it's version 1. If it comes with a long mag and flip sights it's version 2.

The point is moot since the gun is identical anyway.

what he said

the inner workings of the gun are exactly the same, also i have yet to see one without the threaded tip. mine came with one and its a "version 1"

ok thnx guys, was just wondering since i heard version 2 has flip sights but no threaded tip

Hey guys, which RA-Tech inner barrel length do you recommend, 363mm or 380mm?

i think i went with the 380, id have to actualy read the number on it to be sure, but mine is the one that goes right to the end of the outer barrel. im really happy with it.

I have the 380mm and yes it goes to the end of the barrel.

Awesome, thanks for the help guys!

on my 10/22 using Propane I consistently get 250+ feet with it easy.

Tip 1 - get the 380mm inner from RaTech
Tip 2 - Get the RaTech hop up rubber
Tip 3 - Use .36 bb's

when i got mine (version 2) I pulled out the stock inner and put in the RATech 6.01 TB 380mm

I wanted to use the barrel stabilizer (part from the stock barrel so I had to boar it out. put it on the new RAt Inner and put it in the outer barrel.. absolutely Zero wobble..

now the tip. removed the orange paint BUT the plastic inner tip was eaten up by the chemical. so now the inner was loose at the end..

solved that by inserting a barrel extension (Reverse) into the outer barrel. had to lathe it down a bit so it would fit in super tight...

so now my 10/22 has a 14mm ccw thread on it as well... :)


the huge key to this gun's accuracy and distance I believe is the use of .36 WE BB's

I am going to try .43's as well

I use

T-hell....isn't that shooting way above limits with the full length tightbore?

When I use mine with 0.40's I'm already at the limit, it shoots 480fps on 0.20 equivalent energy level.

If I used my tightbore I'd probably be shooting 600fps 0.20 equivalent.

Using duster until my Npas arrives from RATech

Hey guys, just wondering if any of you know where I might be able to get my hands on the RA-Tech 380mm inner barrel? I ordered one from airsoft parts, but for some reason there was a mix up and I ended up with the 363mm 6.03mm barrel. There sold out now and won't be re-stocking until the end of october.

Order right from RA-Tech...

I am just about to put in an order for 2 NPAS for my and one team mates 10/22
easy to deal with

Nice, have you ever had any issues getting it shipped into Canada?

I ordered mine along with some extra mags from eHobby.

Sorry for all the questions as of late, I've decided to finally start upgrading my gun and have a few of them. Has anyone had any luck installing an acm ubr stock? will a ctr/moe stock fit onto the stock buffer tube? I've looked everywhere online and can't seem to get definitive answers regarding the kc-02. Thanks again for all the help guys! :D

Stripped the thread on another original mag... (third one)

Are the straight one (30 rounder?) better on this point?

I need 3-4 more mags and i don't want to pay 40$ each and face the same problem...

Did they finally released the npas for the 10-22?

How the heck do you get the rail covers off?

push down on the metal bar and slide it forward

Has anyone tried the full auto kit for the KC02?

http://www.airsoftglobal.com/shop/in...ducts_id=15659

KC-02 Semi-auto/Auto Conversion Kit hawkeyeフルオート化.mpg - YouTube

Completely defeats the purpose of what the gun is for.

Long mags are better. They are much less likely to leak. FYI the ASG brand mags are compatible with the KJW and work just fine as well.

Never mind, I answered my own questions :). Also, I completely agree with Styrak, the Kc-02 is best utilized as a DMR as opposed to a gun used for spray and prey.

to your first question yes the long mags are better in that regard.

the npas from the kj m4 works in the 22. i threw one in mine just cus i ran out of things to do.


I have a 2nd 22 on the way and i plan on doing this to it.

Iv always gamed my gun more like an m4 then a dmr.

hello everyone, i have just got a kc-02 in a trade this weekend and i was pointed here for information. i have a few questions for you guys and before i ask them, let it be known that i have read all 25 pages of this thread. 1st off, like viper i am going to run this as an assault rifle, not as a dmr as most. my fields limit is 350fps with .25s, will simpily putting a new rubber in drop my fps the 10-20 needed to be within limits? also, i cant tell for the life of me but is the outer barrel metal? i plan on having it cut down alittle shorter and getting it threaded, but this is only possible if it is metal. thanks in advance for the help and you guys will be seeing alot more of me on these forums in the future.


EDIT: forgot to add that i plan on using madbull .30g bbs. good choice? too light? better brand?

Simply changing the rubber will not drop the fps. If anything it will increase fps a bit if it improves the seal. Your only options to lower fps is duster gas or the Ratech npas for the KJW M4.

Also, the KC02 barrel is metal. As an alternative to cutting, the full auto kit I provided a link to in my earlier post comes with a shortened threaded barrel.

Stock, they're shooting above your limits (about 430-440fps). Your limits are 350fps on 0.25 is or 390fps on 0.20

Also why do you want to shorten the barrel? The gun is already pretty short as is.

well its not technically above the limit, just forces me to have a MED, which i dont want. and i want to chop off about half of the outer barrel after the barrel and add a suppressor. what would you guys suggest for getting me down below 390fps? NPAS? what will the gun shoot stock on duster? seems like a RAtech tightbore with duster may be the best option for me correct?

The finished product!...unfortunately for me though, I have to put it up for sale :(

Ohh man I can't wait till i my KC02 back from repair. Its going to be suhweeeeeeeeeeeeet !

got mine a week ago from bent barrel airsoft. Gamed it yesterday. Running stock on .2s it chronos at 440fps. Ran .36s through it and people could not believe the range on this thing. The consistency is amazing for a gas gun as well. I was looking at the longer mags but chose the short ones for the simple fact that the long ones are open on the carrier allowing shit to get into the mag. Had that with my mac 11 and found it terrible. Plans are to get the arch angle kit for it maybe or the m1carbine kit. Also want to through a side mount bipod on for a little more of a stable shot. Love it over my m14 for dmr! Have the 4x acog on it now. But also have a scope and a eotech for different game styles.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8032/8...836bb6b072.jpg
ruger by , on Flickr

edit. that silencer makes a nice difference as well!

Have problems trying to instal a longer inner barrel to mine. Got the thing taken down and got the inner barrel out. But the other "half" of the inner barrel looks kind of stuck inside the outer barrel, tried to pull it out to no avail. Anyone experience this? I dont know what happened but does the aluminum barrel actually stuck inside the front nozzle? How do I remove this? I cant even open the front nozzle, done that and it damages the outer barrel. Any help is very appreciated, starting to get desperate for some reason.

Got it removed, turns out I just need to shake the outer barrel quite hard a few times until it came off. Installed an EDGI 380mm 6.03 kc 02 barrel and it went sooooo straiiight ;) very pleased.

has anyone tried the co2 mags that were released for th gun?
If so, how do you find them?

I had just got a new nozzle, from KJ works awesome customer service :) but changing the nozzle inside the gun was probably huge pain in the arse, until I found out what I was doing! its alive once more!

I just recently got one of the CO2 mags. From the 100 or so rounds I've put through it, seems to work great. Even in cold weather, which is basically why I wanted it. The CO2 lasted a little more than 2 full mags if I remember right

Just ordered mine today. I'll put it on a rs walnut 10/22 stock. I'll post pics as I get the gun and progress toward the rs stock conversion :)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...f/7f065665.jpg

Like this?

Damn, I miss my KJ 1022 :(

YES! EXACTLY LIKE THIS GOD DAMMIT!!!

Except with these sights:
http://www.robertrtg.com/images/416sightset1.jpg


I was also wondering if I could drill some holes in the thread cap to make it look like a compensator a bit like this:
http://www.tacticalinc.com/images/111214-00899-500.jpg

Anyone know where I can get the magazine gasket for the long mags (Part #122)? Mine has a tear in it

Looking for a few things for my KC02

First off I purchased one and it was version 2 which has a non threaded barrel.
I was looking on the RA Tech site and they have barrels but I am unsure if they are threaded or not.. anyone have any ideas...as well if they are not is there somewhere I can get the threaded Ver1 outer.

Next

I saw this http://www.airsoftglobal.com/shop/in...ducts_id=14009

but since I already have the gun I was thinking of getting this body
http://www.bullpupgunstocks.com/ now I am assuming this body is Real steel so anyone know what mods are needed for this to work...

Sadly bullpup stocks for RS firearms are prohib in Canada.

Iv got big plans for my 22 in the near future. Just waiting on some parts to come in.

should be able to bring across the Airsoft version (from the first link) if I wanted to pay 799 for the gun....

anywho what mods would be needed.... anyone know

and anyone know about the outer barrel. if a version with threads is available...

Yes you could, they would view it as an airsoft gun.

The kit on its own would be prohib and thus illegal.

Mod wise short of making room in the kit for the rear receiver screw and or cutting that part off, there should not be much modding needed.

Just got mine today!

http://i.imgur.com/pWj9Es9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0Se2Ib8.jpg

Entirely stock. I haven't receive my rs stock for it yet. I must say even though they're a bit tacticool they still look quite badass. I'll see what I can do with this stock until I receive the real one.

I'll be using the straight CO2 mag just for simplicity's sake. My sidearm is a wg revolver and those are co2. I'll let you know how these go once I receive one.

I've been at the airsoft game for quite a while now but I've never ordered anything from the States. There also seems to be quite a lot of BS out there about whats legal and whats not. So now I pose my question:

Would it be a good idea to order KC-02 magazines off Evike (30$!) or stick to stores within Canada? The consensus seems to be the CBSA allows accessories across.

Well if you wanna order them from the us you will be fine, nothing wrong with bringing mags over, however your better off buying them here. mainly just for the shipping time differences.

Also alot of users here have had bad bad luck with Evike, so thats really your call if you want to go with them.

Never had an issue with evike.

Camerashot still has kco2 mags for sale

For a good time pm him. If you want in country

Got the stock:
http://i.imgur.com/GwmInD2.jpg

Some time later:
http://i.imgur.com/JgicMH2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dLAFYu6.jpg

On my wall:
http://i.imgur.com/AajbfKt.jpg

It's missing some sling swivels, a leather sling and a long CO2 mag.

Thanks gents but I've acquired all the mags I'll need.

Just a quick question is the bolt supposed to lock back without a mag inserted? Or just when a mag is in and empty? I just got mine this morning and its my first gbbr.

just when the mag is in and empty.

however afew of us also had the bolt locking back when the mag was in and full, this was due to a grove not being cut into the mags.

Thanks viper I was a little concerned lol

Works like a GBB pistol or most real rifles. Locks back only with an empty mag inserted.

Well here's mine so far

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...5f843344e4.jpg


Okay heres another question I thought the difference between version1& version 2 was that and correct if I'm wrong the version 2's came with a long mag, flip up sights and no threaded barrel and the version 1's came with banana short mag a threaded barrel and fixed sights. Right??????

Oh yeah and the butt stock on this is the biggest POS ever made

Both have threaded barrels.

Okay cause mine came with flip up sites and a short mag and no styrak this isn't the one I just bought from ya that one is still on the way lol.

No big deal I'm just confused as to which version I have seems to be a mix of both lol

And you bought that one brand new?