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ThunderCactus April 19th, 2010 18:45

Well if you want a GOOD LMG, it'll cost over 1000$
And by GOOD LMG, I mean one you can land on and it won't explode. You can cut down trees with my G&P 249 and it's 8.5kg fully loaded

My favorite tactic back when Lycan was still playing (he had a G&P 249 ranger, same ROF as me), was to use alternating burst fire. Essentially we would act as one M249 with a 5000round box mag, alternating fire between us so the enemy would think it was just one M249 firing quick bursts, or if we had a long pause, they'd think it was a trigger happy rifle that was reloading. Then as soon as they start to move up we let loose :D
Double M249's even at 900rpm still lay down a hell of a lot of fire!

Shooting Addict April 19th, 2010 19:24

Bit of a derail but since were talking about LMG's anyway does anyone know when the Real Sword Type 97 support weapon will be released? It was announced at the shot show awhile back but i haven't heard anything since then. BTW for those who don't know what i'm talking about i mean this http://www.oneworldairsoft.com/page/...-TBA-10174.cfm

Steven April 19th, 2010 19:47

Enough Said.

YouTube- Support Gunnery at Ballahack Airsoft 2/20/10


Cover fire for your troops to move in on the enemy.

highny April 19th, 2010 20:10

So what's the best way to increase my ROF on a normal AEG?... and in what order is best?..

I heard that, Battery is the easiest, if you increase too high of voltage, it'll burn out your motor?...

Next is the motor, high speed one would be good along the battery, then the gears along with bushing.

Let me know what you think and know.

m102404 April 19th, 2010 20:51

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Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 1215342)
Well if you want a GOOD LMG, it'll cost over 1000$
And by GOOD LMG, I mean one you can land on and it won't explode. You can cut down trees with my G&P 249 and it's 8.5kg fully loaded

My favorite tactic back when Lycan was still playing (he had a G&P 249 ranger, same ROF as me), was to use alternating burst fire. Essentially we would act as one M249 with a 5000round box mag, alternating fire between us so the enemy would think it was just one M249 firing quick bursts, or if we had a long pause, they'd think it was a trigger happy rifle that was reloading. Then as soon as they start to move up we let loose :D
Double M249's even at 900rpm still lay down a hell of a lot of fire!

yeah! two LMGs working together and the Opfor will just have a horrible day...:)

ThunderCactus April 20th, 2010 00:12

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Originally Posted by highny (Post 1215415)
So what's the best way to increase my ROF on a normal AEG?... and in what order is best?..

I heard that, Battery is the easiest, if you increase too high of voltage, it'll burn out your motor?...

Next is the motor, high speed one would be good along the battery, then the gears along with bushing.

Let me know what you think and know.

Going up to 1000rpm is fine on most AEGs, thats a 9.6v mini or 8.4v large batt. But anything above it more and more likely to break things, especially when your above 330fps. And a 9.6v large battery will melt your trigger contacts.

1)Battery, MOSFET switch
2)piston, sorbo pad, properly shimmed gears, metal bushings. If you have CA/TM/G&G gears, you'll need better gears.
2)Rest of your internals, motor

highny April 20th, 2010 01:23

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Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 1215602)
1)Battery, MOSFET switch
2)piston, sorbo pad, properly shimmed gears, metal bushings. If you have CA/TM/G&G gears, you'll need better gears.
2)Rest of your internals, motor

Thanks, that's helpful!

teriases April 20th, 2010 21:22

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Originally Posted by scurvythepirate (Post 1214910)
WTF were you reading? HE was wondering what the play style of a LMG'er was, not converting a SAW into a Sniper Rifle. Read it next time before you make comments.

Uhhh yea... you know what. I'm just going to take a high road and just out right ignore you. Very tempted to start a flame war, but no. Nice try buddy. :) And no Mr. Pirate... if you read carefully what I wrote, I was talking about airsoft in general - how it has low recoil and is accurate... About the UMP, it was a joke. Just to refine my point that airsoft has more usage possibility then real firearms.

Anyhow, back on topic - Suppressive fire would be really nice. Since you can pin down someone or a group and your team can flank them. With a SAW you would probly have enough ammo to do this properly and it would be the most realistic role if you had that gun. :)

Kingly April 20th, 2010 21:28

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Originally Posted by teriases (Post 1214904)
SAW.. you mean the SAW Machine gun?

I think pretty much any gun can be a sniper in airsoft, since there's not much recoil, and with a bi-pod and scope u can do pretty well. But it would be kinda silly to snipe with a Machine gun. :)

But then again I have thoughts about building a UMP sniper version... hahah.. :)

That's why airsoft is fun I guess, you can build and play it how u like. Just my 2 cents.

wow, c'mon... your really giving the whole "not age-verified" group a bad name...

highny April 20th, 2010 23:05

So I've been looking at place that sells some decent upgrade parts for my gun...

Is there any decent brand you could name from top to bottom?

I'm thinking element, but not 100% sure if their good considering their price compare to Guarder brand. A bit off topic, but it'll still relate to it as of how this post went.

Thanks again for your input and without starting a flame war.

Conker April 20th, 2010 23:22

As an ACM brand, Element are a hit or miss. I personally consider they're a good bang for your buck for externals and gear (communications and such), however I wouldn't trust them for internals as failure of 1 part may end up destroying the whole mechbox.

TokyoSeven April 20th, 2010 23:53

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Originally Posted by highny (Post 1216363)
Is there any decent brand you could name from top to bottom?

Prometheus parts use high quality materials and have great quality control.

ThunderCactus April 21st, 2010 00:11

Element is awful. Guarder has good dimensional control but their part material is weak.
Systema is still my standard staple for upgrade parts, but prometheus is without a doubt the best on the market.

durak April 21st, 2010 09:57

I run a M60 E4, the thing is a beast. Upgrades are almost a must, i tossed in a top speed ratio gear set and a tm eg1000 motor into mine the thing just spews bbs.

Generally when I see my local bastard I buy ten or fifteen bags at a time to be sure i have enough bbs for a while, in a 4 or 5 hour game I generally onl go through about 2 bags or 4000 rounds. I generally keep one boxmag full plus two reloads on me just incase though there has been the odd game that I have used more than that.

SAWs are damn heavy though if you get a full metal one, and not one of the wussy plastic ones my 60 is almost 20lbs when its loaded. So be sure to get a well padded strap.

The three things im generally tasked to doing are assault, ambush and defence

assault and defence are self explanitory. What lost people overlook is what a saw can do in an ambush situation.

When ambushing an enemy get some good consealment, a ghullie suit helps alot, pelreferably near a trail. And just wait for some enemys to pass by you dont want to start shooting untill there about 30 feet away and open up. If you dont wait you might not get them all and have fire coming back your way. This works really well if you have a fire team with you.

Shooting Addict April 21st, 2010 10:03

Is it one of the Inokatsu M60?


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