Don't doubt it.

LOL... http://aasurplus.ca/airsoft/product_...roducts_id=557

That is the most retarded inflation I've ever seen. C'mon. They're only listed as 1,550 in the states..

It was many years ago and Aqua and I were young and in that stage of our lives where everything just felt right.

We'll boost your allowance by an extra 50 a week if you pick up a few extra chores and even pay you $8000 if you paint the house. You'll have it in no time!

Why do I suddenly have a strange taste in my mouth.

Ronan critically shoots you for 69 damage.

/Sleep.

where else can someone go about getting a ptw? iv looked around and haven't found any better prices in canada?

Congrats. Another Extremely homo post. Better quit while you're ahead. If you were to break my record, I'd be hurt.

The only way you can get a lower price, is if you have connections. Harsh reality.

*TokyoSevens Ciras vest with +1 sexy absorbs the brunt of the damage*
*Drinks red potion +5hp*
*Drinks red potion +5hp*

That was suppose to be 800 not 8000! Who pays 8000 to have their house painted! Unless their house is the massive and I mean crazy massive, and it takes a priming and two coats.

the kit only takes 2 hours if you know how an armalite goes together.
its so worth the savings.

meh ptw are not worth it.

hahahahahahahaha

What I know for certain
 

is that the proliferation of PTWs is starting a "arms race"

There is nothing but a very upgraded weapon that can compete with the distance and accuracy of these things...
The stock TM as a "reasonable gaming gun" has seen its day?

It is a good thing that they are expensive and relatively rare ( though I know 3 people who have one now in a circle of about 60 players, and I expect that will double in the next month)

Frankly, I am having difficulty justifying the expense... but really I have spent enough on guns now that I could have 3 of the things...and lets not even talk about gear.

We now sneer at the Clearsoft users... "thats not real airsoft" .. thats crapsoft.... I wonder has systema raised the bar as to what is "crapsoft"

has the much vaunted supremacy of TM.. that has seen constant erosion over the past 2 years finaly heard its death knell?

IS Systema.. the "new standard" that other makers will aspire to?

I think its already so...

So for those who do not invest.. expect to be outclassed...

I can't wait until the quietly rumored SYSTEMA MP5 is a reality...

HI

I haven't heard that but i think it seems a little over kill, besides all the "reasons" players give to owning a PTW the major reason is to outrange other players in my books.
If two players are well within TM range one owns a stock TM and the other a PTW who will win? I am not going to bet on the PTW owner just because they own a PTW.
With this reasoning I would think it pointless to fork out the cash for a MP5 when it's primary purpose is CQB. You won't be able to play at the 400+FPS that PTW owners shoot due to being indoor with limits, so you get a $2500 MP5 that is all metal just to be shot by my MP7 that shoots 180FPS.

I only want a PTW because after a bundle of $$$ dropped into my AUG to get more range I was easily outranged by Pirate's PTW, which is lighter and smaller then my AUG and now only $600.00 more.

I can guarantee you he priced it like that to discourage buyers. That way, he can keep it for himself.

Just ordered my M4 Challange kit!!!!

ps. after trying a few of my teammates PTW's and seeing how they feel, work, and sound, I have no problems dishing $2700 (including mags, batteries, and blue cylinder) for it

For me....
 

The Range thing.. is not the issue...

the fact that when taken to hand it feels like it should is what drives me... every AEG I have taken to hand till now ( except for my STAR L85s and the VFC AK ) has felt "toyish" the weight, balance and handleing.. just not right...

This is not the case with the PTW.. taken to hand... it "feels" right.. handles properly .... balances properly... it is not just a replica.. it is an effective simulator for the weapon it replicates...

For me... this is more important that outranging opponents..

Most people don't know the difference because they have never handled a real weapon.... For me taking the PTW to hand was like bedding an old girlfriend... its just like you remember...and everything you liked.. and disliked about it.. all came back..

As a training tool... which is another important factor for me... everything else "ok" or "workable" wheras the PTW is as it should be.. virtualy indistinguishable from the real thing.