I was just wondering if there was an alternative to changing the spring. Thanks

nope ultimately, changing the spring is the easiest, cheapest way to lower the fps

Hey, Haggis, look like you got 2 more posts for nothing here. You can't help them if they don't help themself. Sorry about time you have lost.

You're apologizing to someone who, by all means, was not personally forced, required, contacted, or otherwise solicited to help me at all?

You indeed are the one who's time was wasted by replying for 3 reasons

a) see above

b) it offers no new or pertinent information relating to original thread

c) This reply will lead you to post again wasting more of your time

Thanks

Aside from your blatent disregard to what people have said on here, I'll try anyway. Maybe I'm in a good mood thismorning.

What Haggis is saying is that the JG M4S is very well tuned, from the factory, to perform as it does out of the box, and hence swapping out the spring will really hurt a really great performer. He suggests, if you want a lower FPS, purchase a gun with a lower initial FPS.

Now, you mentioned that you have no issue swapping springs and that it's easy. Well, yes, you are correct, but keep something in mind: Every single time you open the mechbox, you lower its durability. The first time it's opened, its durability goes WAY down, and every time thereafter. As a rule of thumb, avoide opening the mechbox unless you have to, especially if you're new (this isn't a slight on you or anything, it's just people who are new to AEGs don't always know how to spot signs of wear and early failure in a mechbox, etc. so they are better leaving them be until they learn more about them).

Now about the battery. If you want the battery to last (IE, long gaming time), you want to look at the millaps (mah), not the voltage. Voltage effects rate of fire, milliamps effects play time. 8.4v gives a respectable ROF... usually around the 12-15 rounds per second range, depending on the gun. Honestly, you don't really need any higher than that. So get yourself a good 8.4v battery (if it's a mini, go for 1500mah, if a large, anything above 2000mah should be fine).

There are options beyond the systema 1 joule for a spring. I prefer the guarder line of springs myself. The guarder sp90 is a decent spring and would give you something in the area under 350. Like someone else stated, a larger battery isnt always a good thing. Having to large a battery with to much juice and to weak a spring could possibly cause alot more wear and tear on the internals due to such a high speed.

Heres a another link to a list of springs, the first chart is what you should be looking at for under 350.

http://www.mechbox.com/site/inside-t...son-chart.html

Like haggis linked earlier, here is a link to the JG HK 416 review, which is actually writen by myself. http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=50930

I do believe the 416 reviewed in the review is a generation two in the 416 series. Systema clone mechbox, 417 style stock, well you get the idea, all the info in the review.

Well there's always the TM Velocity Reducer, which is easier, probably not cheaper, and I don't know how well it works.

Thanks for helping ( TokyoSeven & Styrak & kalnaren ). I read your review. Helped alot. I think you should edit your original post to include the latest mechbox info. It was a bitch looking through all those posts...lol JK.

A 8.4 4200mah would work just fine for me eh? Thanks again guys

just buy a couple of springs 1 for FR outdoors and 1 for Windsors feild...im sure someone in windsor will show you how to do it...

The JG HK416 stock spirng shoots around 400 so I should be alright for FR.

wow dont mess with the jg internals they are very well made. iv had problems with them once i got it if yours shoots dont take it arpart leave it be. just get the tm volicety reducer form ehobby 22 bucks shipped to you

Thanks, I'll check it out.

thats what i do i have mine fireinf just under 400 stock the new black mechbox and now when i go to indoor its used with a tm volivty reducer hope thats the right spelling. im a nub and wouldnt ever want to take apart that thing hard shit to get right

I just got my JG M4 S-SYSTEM .. i love it but was dissopointed to see my battery does not fit , there is no where to tuck away the stiff battery cords without messing up the placement of the battery , basically i just cannot close foregrip at all due to this , making my gun useless until i find a solution . Tips welcomed..

Thanks guys for your help. I have now confirmed payment of my JG HK416. I chose that because of the battery (crane stock), trades, and the reviews I've seen. I paid $185, but we won't talk about that. The M4 was my first choice, but the HK416 made more sense in the big picture. Thanks