if u plan to game go ino wa/g and p are cheeper at the start but add up if u want to make it gameable im going ino iv been reading and it is the cheepest and most robust. all though 100 a mag go with the 50 rounders and get a rebuild kit for each it will help out in the end. and conscript is right reason a mechbox is here. if u plan on gaming id go aeg imo but gass is adcitive but if u got the cash id go ino very little to change to become a great platform.

ALSO what conscript said and be prepard to have parts on hand and o rings .ect as u will need to replace them their is a tonnn of care needed and in all u will most in all likly hood find u speeding a lot of money repairing it then gaming it. also no one in canada is all that comptent in reparing them so its basicly u and the gun and maby a forums help its new in the sence of the design not the concept. their is a reason why it whent to aegs in the first place.

lol well... 1.8k for inokatsu, or 2.4k for ptw O_O useddddddddddddddddd

ya i'm well aware of that, not really a fan of the cold either way :P

LOL take a look at my pic and guess my ethnicity =]
jkzz~~

eh ya i know thaaaaat, cept dragonwindsor watns to use his lawyer in the FR outdoors O_O watch it not work haha

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ya maybe......... gbb's later down on the road then?
*sigh* I've been building my custom G&P and I still need that RAS
LOl I built it from the gournd up and almost spent 900 bux already...

when w.e his name was was selling full G&P m4's for 500...
LOL just my mbk and gearbox/motor cost that much LOL

cept the fact apparently mine is legit and his is smuggled O_O

hmm and what if i was to opt out of these gbbs and go for a ptw, I'd really like to go for a challenge kit, cuz I don't relaly feel like paying 2.5k for like a usedone O_O

Classic Airsoft guns are the only GAS guns that'll ever run effectively without cooldown, but even than it takes proper maintainance and care, unless you buy the DaytonaGun Custom with steel internals, than you're set.

But gas in the magazine will always have its cons, if you play indoors alot it'll work fine (if you can tune down the power) otherwise as everyone has said it's just a nice gun to play around with. Only way to solve the issue is CO2 magazines but CO2 Powerlets are expensive =/

also building most guns from the ground up will cost you about a k even for a aeg just because ur eatting the shipping cost's just in shipping for my coustom m4 all in total is was close to 300 bucks. but i also had everything shipped asap and to my door with in 3 to 5 days with coustoms time included so u get what u pay for in the end. but this whole gbb craze is new but their is a lot that needs to be imporved befour u should consider dropping close to 3 k for a decent set up with mags .ect and 2500 for a ptw i dont know were your looking but iv seen them here brand new in box for 1500 and challenger kits as low as 900! u only here about ppl blowing 2400 when they start pimping it out with all rs gear and shuch.

2400 is the approximate price landed here in Canada.

well check on the classifyeds seen them used for 1500 with ris and a few mags and battery to some brand new ones 1500 to 1700 and some compleat pacages for around just under the 2400 but thats with a lot of shit. then their is the time to time deals were u see them for a bit under that.

but this is a moot point this is for gass guns all though they rate uber epic on the cool factor they arnt viable here to game at this point until 3 things happen prices on mags fall and become cheeper a proper way to being it down to a gamable fps(allredy in the works but whom knows maby theirs a better system) and more time to see how long they last and what problems happen what one can expect and need to know.

the classic ones are those crazy ones with backpacks right? pretty much a paintballing gun LOL

Well actually I did a lot of local pickups!

I paied 250 for my metal body, 225 for my gearbox, then I have the stock grip and heatsink motor plate, m120 high speed. G&G Folding stock, CA outer Barrel, G&P M4 S-System style flip sights, CA flash hider, and I'm gonna get a 551 replica, and the Daniel's defense MK18 7" RAS, probabaly an ofset flashlight mount G&P(costs 50! holy crap!!) lol and probabaly a crappy flashlight.

I've never seen those for 1.5k, or 900 O_O If you check like Kevorikan's Used PTW max pretty much stock with no add ons for 2.4 k man O_O
if you find a challenge kit for anything lower than 2k i'll love you forever!!!!~~
that's waht i've been seeing O_O how about challenge kits? I see lots of quebecers with those O_O

I don't see much of ptw's for that price =S

ya... maybe i"ll get a ptw and wait like a few years until this new gbb fad is bigger than ppl expect and prices started plateuing =]
with higher quality parts

This Seller on EBay here in Canada has 500 Powerlets for $174 + $35 shipped. At least on the WE Co2 mags (scheduled for release next month), you get two mags worth from each Powerlet, so thats 1000 mags of C02. Twenty-one cents a mag is more then recharging a battery pack, but not too bad ;)

Just get this, people will drool and run from you.

http://www.spartanimports.com/conten...mart&Itemid=26

It's so big having an external rig won't make much of a difference :P

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how does powerlets go on the mags tho? Don't the top sjust puncture and the gas comes out? So you can't really stop it and use it on another mag =S

that thing is huge LOL
nahhh i like m4's =[
I don't really want ppl to run away LOl I want them to actually skirmish and not just sit behind rocks 20 ms away from each other and have a spray fest

the 900 and 1100 dollor prices for a challeneger kit was a fluk and like i said u see them time to time iv yet to see a brand new in box ptw for 2400 since bring av'ed yes their was a time but the rang iv been seing them for are from 1400 to 1900 for the past year

atm the max are goign for 2k-2.4k from what i've seen cuz i'm pretty much new here

lol sent u a pm dont want to disscuss crap like this on the open dont want to break any rules at all

please visit:
Redwolf Airsoft - WA M4 Metal Bodies

Dead link.

I think you might have meant:

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...tegory?menu1=8

bugger. my link is junk too. I think your site design is preventing linking to specific menu pages. Anyhow, there are piles of rec'rs under: Accessories - Metal Bodies and slides - GBB