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http://i.imgur.com/oSPCKes.jpg My 2 PTWs Top: 9 in DD Float Rail Aimpoint CompM4 Magpul CTR Stock LBT-2626A Multicam Garmin Foretrex 401 Bottom: FCC 416 EOTech EXPS3 EOTECH G23 FTS *AN/PEQ 15 Surefire Mini scout Light Tan *Gemtech Halo Suppressor AFG in FDE Magpul CTR Stock in FDE DD FDE Rail Ladders Accessories are RS unless noted with a * |
My PRS stock mod!
I should note, this thing is perfect for a mac mod on the buffer tube, you can cut a lengthy slot on the bottom of the tube, and the stock comes off with one screw just like the UBR. But I didn't want to take the stock off every time I change batteries, and I don't trust that big open channel when it rains... Anyway, took the stock apart and started with filing some channels in the sides http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...63260452_n.jpg Cut the hole for wires coming from the receiver http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...92427149_n.jpg Machined a slot for wires to come into the rear of the buffer tube, where my (FCC) mosfet will be. Also deburred it inside and out http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...33800338_n.jpg http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...89544449_n.jpg Here's the tube and stock together. That circled bit I had to later extend to the buffer tube to get more play with the stock while re-assembling http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...33952454_n.jpg Ran the wires through, notice the extra slack. To eventually disassemble, I need to pull the stock back from the receiver, and under the front tube cover. http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...92185220_n.jpg Here you can see how the new wiring will cut about 7mm of travel from the cheek rest. Not a big deal since I'm not running a 1" scope riser. This thing adjusts up to a ridiculous height. For my spectre DR, I raise it about 3mm from the bottom lol Also you can see the challenges to assemble it. I need to slip it under the front tube sleeve, and the cheek rest needs to be over the buffer tube, already positioned over the stock because the wires have to run over it's bottom channel. It's a very intricate procedure. http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...08562385_n.jpg And the finished product! The rear plate still has full movement and the cheek rest loses 7mm of upward travel. This stock is big and surprisingly heavy. Gonna need a bipod to balance it out lol http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...58184711_n.jpg The FCC mosfet and my new 1300mah stick batteries aren't in yet, so I'll post those up when they get here. But the battery actually goes in through the buffer tube cap. Takes the same time to change batteries as taking the stock off, but it's a bit more waterproof and I don't lose any buffer tube strength |
That is a bizarre and complicated set up. But if it works, then go for it.
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The advantage is never having to take the stock off to change batteries
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Hmm interesting idea. I should do that to my rifle..
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I jumped in a year after starting into airsoft almost a decade ago, and I'm not going back.
I've seen a similar mod before, but not on a PRS stock. I couldn't imagine doing this with a shimmed tube cap. I suppose you could machine a custom tube cap, as long as you have one of those take down pins that pops easily. Honestly though, this looks better than some of the butcher jobs I've seen people do to fit a PRS stock on an airsoft gun. Magpul did release an ergo fixed stock with a trap door, so little modding required. That's what I'm doing for my M16. If I need cheek rise, I'll just get a custom cheek pad for it. |
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last season's setup, defecting to the soviet block next
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update on the PRS stock mod
after 3 weeks of waiting for the damn 15C 1200mah batts and mini deans, finally have a working setup lol I could get the 1300s to work with some extra effort, but I don't feel the effort is worth another 10C and 100mah http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...37423834_n.jpg |
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I agree with the minimum of 20c but if I remember my conversation with Brad the boards will stand a maximum draw upto a 25c. a 30c may do damage to your boards if there is a bad spike or overdraw.
our group has about 20@ 11.1v 1200mah 20c batteries with no current issues pertaining to under or over powered batteries |
1) the 25C 1300mah batts are just a tad too long to fit
2) max length of battery I can put in there is 150mm 3) I don't want to run anything that isn't nanotech 4) I distinctly recall a few people running PTWs off 12C batteries... They were underpowered but for some reason never caught on fire during use or charging. Don't recall them swelling either but I know going up to 20C had a huge diff in ROF. My ROF is the same with the 15C's so the draw might be just under 18A. Time will tell anyway |
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I'm THAT guy who paints a FCC 416 kit ;P Need a better optic for it though my Airsoft depot T1 wont raise the "POI" high enough to get a proper zero |
Forgot to post this up. Painted up FCC PTW Mk18 Mod 1.
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They worked, but I upgraded fast. |
Here's my updated FCC hk416
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So, finally I jumped into this PTW pool.
Don't really have fund to upgrade the rails, optics and so on for now as the initial investment is a lot, so I decided to go for the old school way(as I always love the old school style). spent couple hours in my garage, dig into my junk pit and made sure everything fits on properly. might still need to change to a mk18 Wilcox M2 mount and a KAC foregrip later, but I think major parts are done. http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/e...psffbdd68d.jpg hope it won't bring shame to this thread. Tank |
No school like Oldschool. I like it. I wouldn't change anything about it Tank :)
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FCC armoury
Canadian Twins http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e4...pse504acae.jpg Some are packed for night games and missing off the shelf http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e4...ps98633f85.jpg http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e4...psf900b335.jpg http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e4...ps8e6ec9dd.jpg http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e4...ps2b3728a4.jpg http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e4...ps6a50ebee.jpg http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e4...ps36a98595.jpg |
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my gash... subscribed!
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That Midwest Industries rail is starting to grow on me...
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so i've heard theres a new systema being released this september or so. It's known that the receivers will be made by real firearm manufacturers with real firarm materials(7075 aluminum), although I'm not sure if harder material necessarily means an improvement for an airsoft gun. Also, I wonder if real firearm receivers are CNC'd. If not, it would be interesting to see "real firearm receiver vs prime,FCC CNC receivers."
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Wouldn't that also drive gov't agencies (ATF) up the wall, causing a whole new shitstorm of converting AS to RS?
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Zshot also represents Ares and he lies big time. The biggest failure is the MSR700/338 which he clearly said on a AGSI interview was VSR10 compatible, well only 5% is. For the Systema, he is claiming it is either CNC from billet 7075 or forged like a real steel. Can someone validate if it is 7075 or forged? |
Wildcard lovely rails great represenation of the 416 Geissele Smrs. Makes me want to take mine off the classifieds.
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They are located in Mesa, Arizona, and many great AR products are manufactured in Arizona and shipped out all over the country, and to us. They have the capability to make something not considered an 80% receiver and built for PTW use. It can be done. |
Until Systema announces what the receiver's material is going to be for the 2013 PTW, Wallace's words are nothing.
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AR receivers are CNC'ed...
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If they drill one hole on a forged receiver on a CNC machine, they could just call it a CNC'd receiver and they wouldn't be lying...
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So want one of those 416 Geissele Smrs *splooge*
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Centurion really needs to make a keymod version of that.
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Hi guys... just a quick question. I've been using the advanced search but with no accurate results.
Is it possible to have information about the changes to be done in a RS upper receiver to fit a PTW / CTW properly? Do any one of you know someone who does it? Thanks a lot for any info provided! |
You will need a rotary table or lathe to widen the inner diameter to fit the cylinder, and a mill or a drill press with a cross table/vice to cut the relief for both cylinder tab, and sector gear.
EDIT: Or you can also use a dremel. http://imageshack.us/a/img40/5295/20130106122044416.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img69/6408/20130106122216421.jpg |
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I have an Aero Precision COP monolithic upper on one gun now, and I have cut a Sun Devil slick side upper several years ago. You can do it with a Dremel. It takes a couple of hours. |
is there any good guide somewhere? I got an old link to a PTW forum but is offline now. It's getting hard to find something related to this :S.
Thanks for the info guys... I think I will end up buying a RS upper and converting instead of getting another PTW / CTW one... |
There really is no guide per se. Just cut it until the cylinder fits.
If the cylinder won't slide in at all, you have your work cut out for you. |
its easy for you, you r McGuyver! you can do it with a clip hehehe.
Is there any other piece to b replaced at the upper? The charging handle, the forward assist perhaps? And again thx, believe its really appreciated. |
You don't have to replace anything. I suggest grind off the dust cover latch and reverse the spring to keep the dust cover closed. It keeps water and crap out of the gun.
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http://www.tw-works.com/416_2.jpg AOR FCC 416, OM NOM Nom om nom. Still got some furniture which needs to be painted dusted up AOR. |
That AOR1 looks lovely! How did you apply it? Those are some redicilously sharp corners! No smudge or fade at all
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Ah I see, ya if it was in person I would probably agree completely. If they did it via water transfer it'll wear nicely. Hopefully it's not something like duracoat or something super resilient like that
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Man, those look way better all dressed up, but yeah, needs some dirt! Looks awesome though Chris.
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Recently participated in a gun show snapped a quick pick of my beat up PTW
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Building another one from parts:
- Prime colt upper - Prime Colt lower - FCC 3.0 motor - FCC mosfet - FCC ECU - FCC trigger - G&P TD grip - Magpul trigger guard - systema/FCC furniture - tackleberry hop up excuse the Ipad pics: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...41618151_o.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...24973094_o.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...57592895_o.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...95703183_o.jpg |
Looks good so far! I'd like to replace, at very least the lower on my gun. Stupid G&G trades...
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99% finished:D Just need to glue on dummy pins.http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/...psaf8bb4e0.jpg
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It has been awhile since I posted here. My quest was to build a 7lb. PTW, loaded. It has been done, but once I added some extra items, it pushed me over. With my old EoTech 551, no AFG2 and a shitty Rampo mag, it was 7lbs. on the nose. Now, it weighs 7.5lbs, and has a long reach.
Components: Aero Precision C.O.P. monolithic upper receiver (real) FCC Noveske Gen 2 lower FCC 9.0" outer barrel Orga Widebore 10.5" inner barrel MDD hopup with custom adjuster FCC Firepig VLTOR gas block (FCC) FCC semi-auto only selector rack Systema Ambi gearbox Systema 490A remanufactured by Tackleberry Systema ECU and Selector FCC shortened FET FCC buffer tube Magpul MOE stock (real) Magpul MOE+ grip (real) Magpul MBUS sights (real) ERGO rail cover (real) Magpul ASAP (FCC, soon to be replaced) Daniel Defense charging handle (real) FAB polymer dust cover FDE (real) Magpul AFG2 (real) Magpul Gen 2 PMAG modified for PTW (real) EoTech EXPS 3-0 (real) EoTech G33 3X FDE (real, not shown) Systema buffer cap, mag catch and miscellaneous bits. |
*sigh* why do you have to make everyone elses gun look like a standard aeg? thats just mean
can't wait to see it in person bro |
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das sexy! let me know how the MDD and orga work out, im still on the fence about upgrading from my current regular style barrel and tac mod factory hop unit. |
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Of the few people I've talked to that have tried the orga/MDD combo have said the orga flat adjuster works better with the standard hop chamber
As I recall I think the MDD needed minor modification to use the orga flat adjuster Anyway I've been using the orga/orga combo on my SR15 with great results |
What exactly does the Orga looks like? Tried a Google, couldn't find any pics on it.
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http://reviews.ampedairsoft.com/orga...-23mm-barrels/ $88+shipping for 363mm USD. Probably looking at about like $120 ish, which isn't all that bad. |
Orga only makes 6.10 bores for PTWs
And google the "orga ptw adjuster" to see their hop cage |
Top: Upper mostly RS. Bottom: Dytac MUR VIS-1(work in progress)
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I like the look of that Vortex Viper. It needs a dark earth scope mount, that would really complete the look.
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Now I just need my new PTW to show up and ill probably end up buying the strikefireII for my TW5 I just grabbed. |
TW5 Sector Gear after 300 calibration rounds! YAY what an investment.
It has been sent back to Milsig in BC and has been there for months trying to find a tech capable of working on the gearbox. http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/rory_ingham/library/ |
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I agree with Mcguyver on that.
I have a TW5 on my workbench with signs of the same type of damage, no lost teeth on the sector gear yet. And yes, problem is because of the hybrid design of the TW5. It's basically a WE Katana with much fancier electronics and some stainless steel construction. |
its been at milsig for months? anyone that knows how to work on an aeg can replace the broken bits, and anyone that can google and find out how to solve that problem.
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Thanks guys for the input! im impressed with the knowledge shared in just 3 posts. Yeah ive been getting the run around at Milsig and apparently all of the techs that work there don't want anything to do with opening the gearbox. They told me that there are only 5/6 of these TW5s in Canada. They have contacted someone outside the company that has finally agreed to take on the project. Im not terribly impressed with their customer service and lack of professionalism.
They did tell me that the chamber packing seal could have been the issue. Do you guys think it might be an issue running an 11.1 lipo verses the systema recommended 9.6V 2400mAh as well? |
There should be no issue running an 11.1v battery at all but I'd stick with M130 (gold cylinder) springs or higher as a rule of thumb. You may get away with it on an M110 (blue cylinder), however I have seen a 12v battery shred M110 and M90 cylinders.
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Airsoft 11.1v is fine for cylinders M90 to M150.
Quality RC 11.1v can run every cylinder under the sun. For the TW5 you can fit a nice 100C 5000mah 11.1 in the gun and it will run nice. Things that you should do regardless 1. Replace that god awful Tamiya connector 2. If possible replace the quick disconnect spade connectors. Make sure your motor isn't one of those fake modified motors. I have a "modified" motor in the TW5 I am working here and the commutator/armature is a Pile of shit FCC one. The comm needs to be lathed smooth since the FCC one is rough. The biggest annoyance with the TW5. Is getting the trigger spring, selector cylinder and ECU in without destroying the ECU. The next issue is making sure you don't pinch the wiring (The black heatshrink is on your pics) when you open / close the receiver. Then the so called "quick" cylinder swap isn't so quick. Lastly, MP-RE-005 is prone to breaking buy a couple of spares. or have one custom made from some quality tool grade steel. |
If you run an 11.1 battery, you will increase the cycle rate. This is fine, as long as the mags can keep up. It is a known issue to chop BBs in the M-series when running full-auto and M90-M110 with heavyweight BBs. Chopping in the M-series can damage the hopup and cylinder if unattended by cleaning debris or repeated further chopping, but not the sector gear typically.
This can have the unintended consequence of also jamming the hopup in the M-series, just like what happens in the TW5. Once this occurs, then damage can result. If you have to run a lower cylinder like M90-M110, then stick to semi. Your odds of chopping and jamming is reduced 99% right there. Pick a quality BB that feeds well. Weed out any mags that fail to feed well and discontinue using them until you rectify the feeding issue. There are a few TW5's in Canada, I personally know of about 5 of them, and there are most certainly more than that. |
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A few updates. Added an M600V, Haley Thorntail mount and dual pad for LDI and Surefire.
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So you guys have the experience... is there any hope for this one? Or should I just dump it and get another motor?
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The Goods: Systema m16a2 07 PTW RS Noveske upper receiver. RS Knights Armament URX 3.1 13.5" Rail. RS Leupold MK4 3.5-10x40 M2-TMR FDE. RS Larue SPR-1.5 mount. RS Aimpoint T1 Micro 4moa. RS Knights Armament 30mm Aimpoint Scope offset mount. RS Laser Devices Inc Dbal-i2 FDE. RS Harris Medium Bipod. |
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2013 CQBR PTW |
Here's my TW-5 with a real steel surefire flashlight and a VFC MP-5 GBBR retractable stock(took me a bit a of work because I was an idiot):
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Hi guys can you tell me were I can buy a Systema PTW. I'm from Montreal and can't find any store that sell Systema ??
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Very funny! I already google it and I always find store that sell the Systema for twice the price or not have them in stock at all. That why I ask you where I can find one.
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I think B2 airsoft was saying they can order them in from redwolf. I doubt you'll find one on a store shelf anywhere.
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This is a "make the non-PTW users feel jealous and sad." thread. |
She should arrive Wednesday, she's just beggin to be turned into a C8. I have all the CAD files for C7 and C8 trades somewhere, at least I used to, so the main bit of work is already out of the way :P
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