Real Sword type 56 upgrades?
 

Hi, I'm wondering how to upgrade a real sword type 56 to shoot at higher velocity than 330fps and where to get a softer rubber bucking thing?
This is not for gaming but for fun around my farm
Whats strongest spring I could put in and how big a battery can I run?
Also need someone to do the work, prefferably a shop but if someone has good trader rating I'd be interested as well

first off, I guess I'll be the one to say get AV'd and checkout the classifieds for parts. also I'll say I don't recommend you shooting that on your farm! I have a real sword and they look real, like put an AK beside it and not tell the difference real, If your neighbours or passers-by see it you'll have the cops there so fast.

You do not have to be AV'd to buy springs or hop up rubbers or batteries as being AV'd is for certain transactions on ASC and these items are easily found online elsewhere.

It doesn't hurt to be AV'd but for what your asking for it's not a requirement.

You can do the spring upgrade yourself: http://www.mechbox.com/mechbox/v3-me...g-upgrade.html

A Modify S110 irregular spring should bring the T56 up to just under 400 fps.

A Guarder Clear Hop Up Rubber works well with AEGS shooting at or under 400 fps.

Thanks, so with tight bore and stronger spring it'll shoot farther i'm hoping
how powerful a spring can i go?
anyone in vancouver area know how to work on one of these?

Not 100% on this but I believe the T56's already come with tight bore barrels.

I have two myself but I have never checked.

Using a Modify S120 or S130 spring would bring the T56 over 400 fps.

That's a "hot gun" for most gaming around where I live.

Check your local field first before gaming if you upgrade.

A stronger spring means a higher muzzle velocity (fps).

A good hop up will give you better range.

I'm assuming your looking for a local gundoc. If so, check out Op-for.ca
We play in Surry at Panther Paintball, and there are...3-4 gundocs, all great. Register in the forums and check out the doctors corner, and there are threads about each gundoc. Good luck!

the RS type 56 comes stock with an m130 before canadian regulation has its hands on it. so an M130 would be best suited for the AEG assuming you are not changing anything else, as for tightbore I doubt you'd want to waste your money on it the RS 56's are badass guns when you get the upgrade spring into it.

Great, I appreciate the info
Hey theres an indoor airsoft place in winnipeg that has a "mechanic" to work on electric guns
There any other guys out there who work on 'em?

If it's shooting 330 fps it doesn't have an M130 installed.

M130 = 429 FPS. (rough conversion)

Upgrading the installed version 3 spring guide with an aftermarket one isn't a bad idea either.

The real Sword type 56 has an m130 stock in Hong Kong, it is made to shoot 420+ fps, when they arrive in Canada the spring is replaced with an m90 making it shoot at 330 fps. hence "before canadian regulation has its hands on it."

Oh ok
I just bought it last week from a guy coworker who had it on his wall
Its never fired a BB
I'll have to order battery and charger
looking over specs and 330 fps seems pretty mild
I want it to run as hot as i can
anybody from BC work on these things?

That would be yours that you bought probably in the last month or two from after the safesoft initiative started.

There were plenty of RS 56's and 56 -1's in Canada in late 2008 and 2009 that came in shooting as low as 300 fps and as ridiculously high as 500+ fps.

My 56 chronied in at 408 fps and my 56-1 chronied in at 444 fps when I got them.

500+ fps is what I want
Anybody here able to make it happen?
Prefer someone who has an established business

They can easily take a M150 with a large enough battery, these motors have HUGE amounts of torque.

I'd suggest a good hop-up rubber and a good barrel.. The barrel window of stock Realsword guns REALLY sucks.

Not recommended one bit.

But to each his own.

yeah you are right about that, I got mine about a month ago and the stock (m130)spring was included in the box. I guess I just assumed that all the 56's would have started in Canada the same as mine. I heard of people owning 56's shooting at 500+fps I just thought they were upgraded after purchase.


Also highly recommend against 500+ fps.

If you have no intentions of gaming it there's nothing wrong with running it at 500+ FPS, these guns are built to be able to take it...

Things will wear out faster and you'll be REQUIRED to use heavier weight BB's

Real Sword AEGS are great but the do have some QC problems.

I know one guy that has a 56-2 and the Real Sword Mid Cap Mags won't work while the Real Sword high caps work fine.

My T56 can take Mag waffle mags while my 56-1 cannot take them.

Real Sword M4 mags are horrible. Mine fell apart during it's first game. (I have a Type 97B)

I concur.

500+ FPS is fine for target shooting.

Shooting at friends and gamers?

Nope.

Thats weird I've only ever heard great things about them, I know that they have been repeatedly called "one of the best AK variants on the market" I had a slight issues with one of my mags, but I just filed down the catch on the mag a little and now it works flawlessly. In any case I've gotten off topic, you can use almost any spring in this AEG, they are solid and Amos is right, you'll need heavier bb's at least .25 and it will wear out faster.

Why is not recommended?
Does it over stress the gun?
Whats most optimum spring to balance it out?
I have no intention of gaming it, just shooting it in my barn when I'm bored

For barn shooting, throw a Prometheus MS120 spring in there, it'll give you 390-402 FPS

Use some .28 or high weight BB's and it'll be a pretty good gun.

If you want more accuracy out of it, I'd suggest upgrading to a Guarder Clear or Firefly hop-up rubber with a Prometheus AK length 6.03 Tightbore barrel.

I don't care what anyone says.. Stock realsword barrels may be "tight" but their barrel window is GARBAGE (that effects how evenly your hop is applied)

500+fps is fine for target shooting / plinking.

You'll just wear out the parts faster with a M150 spring installed.

Gaming is obviously another story.

That's all.

Amos really knows his shit about Real Sword 56's. He's the guy to offer upgrade part recommendations.

Why is not recommended? - if you ever want to shoot it at people <- (games) you'll need to either switch the spring out or use another AEG. But you don't plan on it so really you're all good.

Does it over stress the gun? - not over stress but it will be putting more stress on everything than what the m90 spring would be. (wear and tear of gears and motor will happen faster)
Whats most optimum spring to balance it out? - I'd say keeping it around 400 fps (m120 - m130 spring) this is of course my opinion from what I understand of these guns. Amos will know better than me though.

If you live in Vancouver, why ship your gun to winnipeg to get it to a gundoc when you can get it done locally? The ones that I know of that are reputable gundocs are DamageInc, Kampfer, and Optix. I have met all of them and they are great guys, with even better work. I'd recommend any of them.

Here are some links for them.

Kampfer: http://www.3quip.com/

Optix: http://www.airsoftcanada.com/member.php?u=5099

Damageinc: http://www.airsoftcanada.com/member.php?u=6766

They are listed in no real order. IF you are interested in local gundoc services and saving yourself time and money...PM one of them :)

My entire team runs;

Prometheus MS120 Spring
ARS Sorbo'd POM Piston head
ARS Sorbothane Pad
Prometheus V3 Spring guide
Guarder Clear hop-up rubber
Shredder's concave Spacer
Trigger Master MK3.8

Aaaaaaaand since everyone's broke from all the upgrades, guns and mags.. they're slowly starting to get Prometheus tightbores :)

Edit:

The reason why one would want to ship a realsword gun all the way to Winnipeg for ME to work on it would simply be experience, Realsword guns are not like every other V3 AK, there's some minor differences that need special attention paid to them (External ARL leaver when wiring, Dissasembly of the front-end, etc) To date I've successfully worked on 11 realsword guns, 4X Type 56-1, 5X Type 56, 1 SVD, 1 Type 97B.

If needed I could get a post from every single person that has had their realsword upgraded by me ;)

And I'm jumping the gun. I've had work done. Performs awesome.

Stock the gun is great. After Amos touched it, amazing!

Went to a game this past weekend with people we don't normally play with. They must not have gone up against upgraded RS's before on mass...Lets just say it was almost like cheating.

You want a sexy RS, I highly recommend getting the work done, you won't regret it!

what is the length of the AK inner barrell? not listed on airsoft parts.ca as ak barrel ect.. only in mm.

455mm :)

Thanks Amos!

If the user wants the highest power possible I would suggest going to a US forum or Filipino forum. Highest FPS AEG I have built is ~650 FPS with a 0.2 using airsoft surgeon stage 6 spring (~4j energy which is very close to 9mm simunition). Unfortunately, I couldn't get a stage 7 spring. Building guns with those springs is a process. Takes tools and time to get the spring to get into the gearbox. And you will be replacing parts each time you use. Certainly not for the typical game in Canada.

BTW, Does anyone know what kind of pistol grips fit the Type 56? Or what modding is required to fit a real steel grip?

I saw an awesome looking Type 56-1 with Polytech AK furniture on the Red Alliance forums. I'd ask the modder or check his posts, but I don't have an account on RA. (pending registration)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...a/IMG_7589.jpg
http://www.red-alliance.net/forum/in...1104.msg129925

...damn that looks good.

Plan to put an sp130 and spring guide with bearing on my type 56-1 for plinking.

All else being stock internals, would it able to handle the sp130?

Yes.

shiftsup

I sure hope your avatar is AVD... :D