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PARKINGLOT May 4th, 2010 01:27

Carrying Dual Pistol's?
 
I'm just curious what the best way to carry 2 pistols? Dual Dropleg holsters maybe?

Ballcancer May 4th, 2010 01:39

I have one in a serpa holster on my leg rig and the other in another serpa the back of my belt.

Eien May 4th, 2010 01:44

Or you can go john woo style and put both guns behind your back.

StrikeFreedom May 4th, 2010 01:46

Dual droplegs, belts, chest crossdraws, shoulders, backs. O wait that's 10 pistols.

juicy May 4th, 2010 01:47

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Originally Posted by PARKINGLOT (Post 1226190)
I'm just curious what the best way to carry 2 pistols? Dual Dropleg holsters maybe?

"Best"? There is no best. I found that carrying a pistol in a drop leg plus carrying a second USP in my (old) chest rig's integral mag pouch was just fine.

I do recommend that you go for holsters that don't have thumb breaks (unless you train rigorously with them) - they're a bitch to holster that way... that's just personal preference, and if your dual pistols are your primary, there won't be many occasions of your having to holster/draw you pistols anyway. It all boils down to personal preference and what you're carrying a pair of pistols for anyway. From my own experiences, drop leg stuff tends to slow me down, however, I find it more comfortable for the long run in terms of not loading my MOLLE belt up with too much shit.

Alternatively, you could run one drop leg plus one shoulder holster. Take a look-see at clips from The Punisher: War Zone... you'll see what I mean. He carries 4 pistols, one on his right thigh, one in his right armpit, one behind his back, and... uhh, I think there were 4? Anyway, take a look at the rig he's using. Now, add all your mags. Then, figure out which holster placements will work best for you. From what I can see, it looks like those holsters are of the hood-design (i.e. Safariland)... yes it might get expensive, but if you really want to rock dual pistols, you might as well ditch a fair chunk of cash on a holster rig that will work for you and will not fail you.

ShelledPants May 4th, 2010 02:16

Firstly: I don't support carrying multiple pistols. It's more effective to carry one pistol and lots of ammo.

That said:

I would carry the primary pistol on/behind the right hip (Right handed), and the secondary pistol in front of the left hip, FBI cant, for a right handed draw. Then run all of the mags on the left hip and to the rear of your back.

Oh, use two pistols which can interchange magazines (Two 1911's might be a bit bulky... but maybe a Glock 17 on the right, and a Glock 26 on the left... using Glock 17 mags)

The concept is that it's faster to transfer the primary to the reaction hand, and draw the secondary, than it is to reload... I find this statement ridiculous... but it's the only reason to carry two pistols. If you're under the impression that firing two pistols at a time is more effective... you are wrong and there is no argument. Unless you are John Woo. He can get away with it, because he only reloads in the editing room.

It's something I've thought about, but never found practical. After dumping the two pistols of their ammunition, assuming you've survived, you now have to reload BOTH. Holstering one, reloading one, holstering that, then drawing the first, and reloading that. In which case, 9 times out of 10, the baddies have found you with your pants down and plinked you full of plastic.

It's just so much easier to run one pistol with many magazines.

Rugger_can May 4th, 2010 02:57

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Originally Posted by ShelledPants (Post 1226213)
It's just so much easier to run one pistol with many magazines.

Also cheaper, more reliable (you can buy one high quality pistol for the price of two), more accurate (firing a pistol one handed requires alot of practice, firing a pistol in your off hand even more, firing two is just not needed)

Styrak May 4th, 2010 03:57

Useless.

Carry 1 pistol and more mags (for the primary or pistol).

VooDooPeteK May 4th, 2010 03:59

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Originally Posted by Rugger_can (Post 1226229)
firing two is just not needed)

Well unless you are also doing ninja rolls, then you do need two :rolleyes:

but yea 2 pistols is just not needed, if you have 2 then just switch them up once in a while if you want to play with both, if its a pistol only game then they are not holstered anyway :)

juicy May 4th, 2010 06:22

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Originally Posted by ShelledPants (Post 1226213)
Firstly: I don't support carrying multiple pistols. It's more effective to carry one pistol and lots of ammo.

That said:

I would carry the primary pistol on/behind the right hip (Right handed), and the secondary pistol in front of the left hip, FBI cant, for a right handed draw. Then run all of the mags on the left hip and to the rear of your back.

Oh, use two pistols which can interchange magazines (Two 1911's might be a bit bulky... but maybe a Glock 17 on the right, and a Glock 26 on the left... using Glock 17 mags)

The concept is that it's faster to transfer the primary to the reaction hand, and draw the secondary, than it is to reload... I find this statement ridiculous... but it's the only reason to carry two pistols. If you're under the impression that firing two pistols at a time is more effective... you are wrong and there is no argument. Unless you are John Woo. He can get away with it, because he only reloads in the editing room.

It's something I've thought about, but never found practical. After dumping the two pistols of their ammunition, assuming you've survived, you now have to reload BOTH. Holstering one, reloading one, holstering that, then drawing the first, and reloading that. In which case, 9 times out of 10, the baddies have found you with your pants down and plinked you full of plastic.

It's just so much easier to run one pistol with many magazines.

New York reloads is about the most use you'll be able to get out of two pistols on a field. Handy, yes. Worth the extra weight and expenses, no. ShelledPants has hit the nail on the head for this one.

coach May 4th, 2010 07:18

Re: Carrying Dual Pistol's?
 
Rats. I just reconfigured my belt. You guys will have to wait for new pics of the dual wield reload system.

2 x g17
2 x uncle mikes kydex
1 x modded kydex mag holder

Duckman has his DW setup for 1911's. He's also know to carry upto 6 pistols. Most I've gamed are 4. Dual wield g17's, mk23 dropleg, and a p14. Used every pistol. :)

Crunchmeister May 4th, 2010 08:52

As was said, dual pistols is unnecessary and impractical at best.

That being said, how necessary are our large collections of guns or how practical is it bringing 5-6 guns with us to games? Neither are. They're just cool and we like them - sort of like dual-wielding pistons.

Gunk May 4th, 2010 11:08

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Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 1226283)
As was said, dual pistols is unnecessary and impractical at best.

That being said, how necessary are our large collections of guns or how practical is it bringing 5-6 guns with us to games? Neither are. They're just cool and we like them - sort of like dual-wielding pistons.

Santa says you're an engine :p

I say, who needs holsters? If you're dual wielding just pretend you're Jango Fett and shoot like hell.

And get a Jet pack.

Wilson May 4th, 2010 11:10

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/proje...off/1911_8.jpg

scottyfox May 4th, 2010 11:22

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...t=dual+pistols

Drakker May 4th, 2010 11:28

I usually carry one under my left shoulder and one on my hip. I will mostly fight using only one pistol, but when the shit hit the fan, two pistols means more ammos in your hands. I use the one in my good hand more than the other one, so when the pistol is my good hand is out of ammo, I usually still have a half full magazine in my other pistol.This means that you are not defenseless while reloading, you still have enough ammos to deal with surprises. That's the only reason to use dual pistols really. Also, don't point and fire both pistols at the same time, you really can't aim that way, try to point one forward, and the other to your back, or anywhere the enemy can come from. This way, if someone shows up, aim and shoot with the pistol that's pointing toward them, and forget the other pistol.

ts10z May 4th, 2010 12:42

I often take 2, but my kit is totally messed up because of an eye dominance thing. I am right handed and left eye dominant. I can easily fire a pistol left or right with no problem, but a long weapon(even shotguns) tends to be left handed for me. I can still shoot them right handed, but I cant keep both eyes open if I want to hit anything. So I carry a pistol on a right leg drop holster, which works great when I am up and moving cuz I leave my primary on my left side or in my left hand and draw with my right. I did find it very annoying on the ground or crouched because I tend to keep my right side in cover and sometimes find I wish I could get at a pistol(especially when entering a building) with my left, so I put one either in a shoulder or high crossdraw holster so I can get at it with my left hand. Like I said, its messed up.

medhatboy May 4th, 2010 13:49

Way back when, I carried a glock 17 in a holster on my vest and a glock 34 in a leg holster with 4 mags between the two. Never really used both, so I lost the holster on the vest and stayed with the glock 34.

DuffMan May 4th, 2010 14:37

I often carry one in a strong side drop leg, strong side 2oclock on my vest and one on my hip, offset for the vest, 6:30-7, accessible by both hands (but much easier for my weak hand).

The only time it has ever come in useful is during 5minute-or-less skirmishes in Saigon/CQB. It's a hell of a lot of fun, though. Also, your guns will get scratched up to shit.

doc_pathfinders May 4th, 2010 14:42

carrying two pistols only means one thing: having two backups, using them at the same time (unless it's CQB and just for the laugh value) will usually result in you getting shot, and missing someone who's 20 feet infront of you.

but both pistols should share magazines, this way, if one of your pistols goes down you'll have plenty of ammuniton to go around..

i used to run a 3.9 infinity (western arms, with the meat tenderizer front) and a P14-45, they shared mags (well, the 3.9 had a smaller magazine, but could use all the P14 mags)

and the once or twice that i couldn't reach the P14, that 3.9 came in handy. usually while crawling through undergrowth, or while pinned down and out of ammunition in my primary.

but, dual-weilding = dumb. be it rifle or pistol.

Crunchmeister May 4th, 2010 14:50

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Originally Posted by doc_pathfinders (Post 1226512)
but, dual-weilding = dumb. be it rifle or pistol.

But one must keep in mind that sometimes, doing something dumb is a hell of a lot of fun! :D

That being said, I wouldn't really recommend playing seriously dual wielding anything. But just to go out and have a fun round with dual pistols is a lot of fun. I've tried it with dual M11s, and it was a blast. Not very effective, but a lot of fun.

PARKINGLOT May 4th, 2010 15:01

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Originally Posted by DuffMan (Post 1226504)
Also, your guns will get scratched up to shit.

Eh...My pistol is a clear (yes clear, oh noes! lol) KWC Smith & Wesson M&P 40. Cheap $70 Walmart CO2 powered gun....but still shoots at like 370-380fps :D

Looking into getting it a twin :D

coach May 4th, 2010 15:06

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Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 1226522)
But one must keep in mind that sometimes, doing something dumb is a hell of a lot of fun! :D

That being said, I wouldn't really recommend playing seriously dual wielding anything. But just to go out and have a fun round with dual pistols is a lot of fun. I've tried it with dual M11s, and it was a blast. Not very effective, but a lot of fun.

bingo. it's all about having fun and the Hollywood style playing during a skirmish. be it a la Matrix or whatever since most BB's rounds can be spotted and dodged.

haven't you guys had that Hollywood moment where you wished there was a camera trained on you as you dodge BB's and make kills left right and centre? even if it's not on tape, it's something to brag about post game. :D

medhatboy May 4th, 2010 15:06

The only time I acutally used both glocks at the same time, targets were 30-50ft, it was on the "speedball" field.
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...0-08-06004.jpg

juicy May 4th, 2010 15:12

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Originally Posted by PARKINGLOT (Post 1226528)
Eh...My pistol is a clear (yes clear, oh noes! lol) KWC Smith & Wesson M&P 40. Cheap $70 Walmart CO2 powered gun....but still shoots at like 370-380fps :D

Looking into getting it a twin :D

Aw man... that's not as much fun :(

You need more blowback and more full-auto, lol

doc_pathfinders May 4th, 2010 15:14

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Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 1226522)
But one must keep in mind that sometimes, doing something dumb is a hell of a lot of fun! :D

That being said, I wouldn't really recommend playing seriously dual wielding anything. But just to go out and have a fun round with dual pistols is a lot of fun. I've tried it with dual M11s, and it was a blast. Not very effective, but a lot of fun.

and as i said:
unless it's CQB and just for the laugh value :smile:

i've had a few moments when my primary has gone down and the enemy are a stones throw away, and all i can do is CHARGE and hope that the hail of bb's will stop them from hitting me until i get close enough..


come to think about it, if you use one to supress and pin (not really 'aimed' more like 'keeping your arm in line with the other') then the other can actually be aimed and might even hit something!


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