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iggim109 May 31st, 2010 00:20

ECHO 1's new sinper rifle ASR (advanced sinper rifle)
 
hey guys ECHO 1 just released their version of Maruzen APS SR-2 Sniper Rifle
here is basic spac of this rifle:
YouTube- Echo1USA - Advanced Sniper Rifle (ASR)

and here is the review of this rifle
YouTube- Airsoft GI - Echo 1 Advanced Sniper Rifle (ASR) Spring Powered Bolt Action Sniper Rifle


so what's y'all think???
i think it's best bang for it's bucks don't u think??

Treefingers May 31st, 2010 00:38

It looks kinda nice. But if the hop-up it uses is the hop-up they thumbnailed in the corner, then it's that god-awful hop-up that the WELL L96 uses as well as the exact same tacky bipod.

Conker May 31st, 2010 00:54

Echo1 rebrands ACM guns, so it's probably a Well, which means it's crap.

And, well like that, it does look like crap. A PRS could enhance alot the look, but the CTR isn't designed for good cheekweld...

Drake May 31st, 2010 01:09

http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/airsoft_E1_ASR_A.jpg


Ew?

Looks cheap, looks like some fakegun, and I don't see the point.

Conker May 31st, 2010 01:22

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...n_sr2_0106.jpg

I retract what I said, even with a PRS it looks like crap.

pusangani May 31st, 2010 01:24

noobs are gonna be ALL over that, and its "advanced" so they'll think they don't need upgrades when people give them the 'ole "stock sniper rifles are no better than aeg's" bit

Sniper1111 May 31st, 2010 01:34

Agreed looks cheap, I'm not a big fan of the m4 stock variants on a sniper rifle.

iggim109 May 31st, 2010 02:19

well personally i actually like to get one of this.
it looks cheep but that's why the price is cheep as well.
and i'm a lefty shooter and i've been told that echo 1 will release the lefty bolt. so i guess i don't mind it

Treefingers May 31st, 2010 02:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by iggim109 (Post 1245782)
well personally i actually like to get one of this.
it looks cheep but that's why the price is cheep as well.
and i'm a lefty shooter and i've been told that echo 1 will release the lefty bolt. so i guess i don't mind it

Left handed bolts for the APS-2 are already out there, and being a maruzen clone they'd logically fit. The receiver appears to accompany them as well.

iggim109 May 31st, 2010 03:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treefingers (Post 1245791)
Left handed bolts for the APS-2 are already out there, and being a maruzen clone they'd logically fit. The receiver appears to accompany them as well.

yes but "sometimes" clone is little bit better (sometimes not all the times)
the maruzen APS-2 only comes with rifle and 1 mag, but echo 1 comes with bi pod and 3 mags. Also because it is clone echo 1 is little bit cheaper.
echo 1 ASR: $115.00 USD
maruzen APS-2 $193.00 USD
i'm not saying that ECHO 1 is way better. i'm saying that it's good for it's value

doc_pathfinders May 31st, 2010 06:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by iggim109 (Post 1245797)
yes but "sometimes" clone is little bit better (sometimes not all the times)
the maruzen APS-2 only comes with rifle and 1 mag, but echo 1 comes with bi pod and 3 mags. Also because it is clone echo 1 is little bit cheaper.
echo 1 ASR: $115.00 USD
maruzen APS-2 $193.00 USD
i'm not saying that ECHO 1 is way better. i'm saying that it's good for it's value


"better" is a missnomer, i would rather have a gun that has a proven track record on upgrades (i.e. won't snap half the pot-metal components when i use an upgrade spring) rather then a few extra magazines or a cheap bipod.

cheap is cheap and while you may pick up a solid gun on occasion, the laws of the universe mean it's unlikely that clones will consistantly beat originals.

FOX_111 May 31st, 2010 09:56

Look cheap. Look super light. Look like it will break at the first game. And I predict the accuracy for this gun will be just a therm to describe how much it's not accurate at all.

I'm looking forward to see one on the field. I'll shoot it and add some high speed ventilation holes in it wth my M24.

Disco_Dante May 31st, 2010 11:06

It needs one of those M4 tanker stocks. The ones that look straight off a grease gun. That would be perfect.

Steven May 31st, 2010 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by iggim109 (Post 1245797)
yes but "sometimes" clone is little bit better (sometimes not all the times)
the maruzen APS-2 only comes with rifle and 1 mag, but echo 1 comes with bi pod and 3 mags. Also because it is clone echo 1 is little bit cheaper.
echo 1 ASR: $115.00 USD
maruzen APS-2 $193.00 USD
i'm not saying that ECHO 1 is way better. i'm saying that it's good for it's value


Not sure where your getting your prices.... but their sure not that price in Canada. I wouldn't even touch this is your trying to make it into a competitive rifle, I'll stick to my APS-2 SV!

Kos-Mos May 31st, 2010 12:40

Maruzen makes two versions of this gun. Named SR-2 (Simple Rifle Version 2)

The first (and cheaper) one is a short range, target shooting rifle. No hop-up.

The second is a standard airsoft rifle. Hop-up (ASP2), bolt (ASP2) and compatible. The plastic quality is on par with any other Maruzen rifle, meaning that is is a high nylon polymer coumpound.

Magasine design is based off the L96 magasines, with an extra security on both sides to prevent the mag skipping that appears on older/worn mags or magwell.

The receiver is all polymer, so is the stock. The barrel group is still metal (uses any ASP2 barrel). The front stock section can be removed to acces internals easier.

The stock adapter lets you install any buffer-tub based AR stock. An adapter is probably available to install full stocks or the likes.


The Echo1/Well/china clone is basically the same, with cheaper tolerances. The plastic is cheaper, more of a shiny ABS thing. The mags are compatible between the two.

IMO it can be a very nice rifle for a DMR or as a secondary. Lighter than an APS-2/L96 while keeping the reliability. I am considering buying one just for that purpose.

suzenonest June 23rd, 2010 22:26

is there a canadian store to buy this off of?

Strelok June 23rd, 2010 22:43

No, you can get one through Age Verification however.

kalnaren June 23rd, 2010 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conker (Post 1245762)
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...n_sr2_0106.jpg

I retract what I said, even with a PRS it looks like crap.

Is it me, or does it actually look like it's flexing where the stock connects to the receiver?

sushicake June 23rd, 2010 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 1260634)
Is it me, or does it actually look like it's flexing where the stock connects to the receiver?

well it's been photoshopped so maybe his photoshop skills aren't that good?

Steven June 23rd, 2010 23:26

Yep, but i assume thats the same thing happening, as if when silencer looks like they are sagging

aZn_triXta07 June 24th, 2010 01:38

Interesting ... should check it out myself.

sortie39 June 24th, 2010 04:31

freak!!

SultanOfShwing June 24th, 2010 05:00

I must be crazy because I actually really like the look of this gun. The fact that the stock can be swapped out must be the reason why (my taste in appearance constantly changes). Does anyone know if the pistol grip can be swapped out for any AEG or GBB M4 style grip?

I might have to try one out once I finally get my ass out to get AV'd. For curiosities sake, what is the going rate for a Maruzen APS2 in Canada?

EDIT: After looking at some photos I'm actually gonna have to agree with you guys now. This gun looks like poo-poo

suzenonest June 24th, 2010 08:26

i actually kinda like the look of the version above. the original looks meh

Kos-Mos June 24th, 2010 10:40

Most airsoft stock that use a buffer tube will fit. You cannot remove the stock tube to install... say a full stock.

AEG piston grips do not fit. The design is the same, but the part of the receiver that hold the grip is WAY smaller than an AEG...

Other than that, the gun itself is not that bad. Reliable APS-1 internals for most part. Compatible with the PDI hop-up unit. Ultra light-weight (composite receiver).

suzenonest June 24th, 2010 12:43

how much would one go for in the classifieds? and is there anywhere else to buy sniper rifles besides buyairsoft.ca? im getting AV'ed hopefully today incase you're wondering

Boyso June 24th, 2010 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzenonest (Post 1260912)
how much would one go for in the classifieds? and is there anywhere else to buy sniper rifles besides buyairsoft.ca? im getting AV'ed hopefully today incase you're wondering

Wait until you are then, you'll see really quickly by yourself.

kalnaren June 24th, 2010 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzenonest (Post 1260912)
how much would one go for in the classifieds? and is there anywhere else to buy sniper rifles besides buyairsoft.ca? im getting AV'ed hopefully today incase you're wondering

Good sniper rifles, if somewhat stock usually run in the $500-$700 range. Ones that have been upgraded, well looked after, and are actually excellent sniper rifles will run you around $1,000 and up.

Crappy rifles by Well and TSD usually go for under $500.

scurvythepirate June 25th, 2010 00:39

Its seems as if people are selling it now. Not sure if its the same one, looks pretty similar though.

http://www.shootsoft.ca/clearsoft/pr...roducts_id=385

suzenonest June 25th, 2010 09:13

it seems to be the same gun. Im juss wondering if its worth it for that price

suzenonest June 25th, 2010 12:22

plus i thought it was a big no no to order off shootsoft.ca lol

Jercouzen July 21st, 2010 00:51

Hi,

This is one of the threads I reviewed when I was still planning on my PRS mod.

Now that I'm done, some of you guys might be interested in the result, to see difference between the photoshopped pic and what it looks like IRL.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2999430_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5373138_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5084366_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5877912_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2491068_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1536871_n.jpg

Jagd July 21st, 2010 01:13

Not bad at all! The stock and silencer help in the look quite significantly, with the regular stock this gun is pretty ugly IMO.

Jercouzen July 21st, 2010 01:37

Yup. I didn't like the regular M4 6-position stock either so I replaced it with the PRS. The only issue with this rifle is that the externals are non-standard, and requires machining a couple of parts to fit in stuff like the PRS.

But on the bright side, every time I take it to the field, I'm pretty sure I won't be running into someone with the same build. A good thing for people who like being different. lol.


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