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xXSkillzScopeXx June 17th, 2010 18:37

18+ rule
 
Hey guys I just don't get this rule if the person is under 18 and can prove that he is mature enough then why can't he play. Paintball is an 18+ sport to but if the kid has a parent purchase a gun he can play if he and parent sign a waiver. Can kids (14+) play airsoft if they have a parent come with them?having minors in the airsoft would really grow the sport just like paintball which I have exp in and I can handle airsoft guns safely. I also know tons of people who would be interested in the sport if it was available. Even if some adults don't want to play along side minors then they could have certain games were they can play. Or the kids could come to a few matches be tested for maturety and have to prove themselves which some kids are more mature than some adults. It's up to the veterans of the game to teach the people of airsofts future. I myself am 14 and I already bought an airsoft gun and have some paintball gear that I can use to. I can also bring alot of friends into the game and they will tell their friends and so on and so on. I know way more kids then I do adults that are interested in airsoft. Wouldent it be nice if airsoft was a really popular sport like hockey+football and it wasn't the minority, it would be way easyr to get guns n gear since their would be more walk in shops. Youth is very good for the sport every pro athlete once wad in the minor leagues training to be in the bigs

GBear June 17th, 2010 18:43

There are many threads answering this question.

If memory serves right, I remember someone saying that if you're not mature enough to use the search function, you aren't mature enough to play airsoft.

It's all about the liability. If you're underaged, you cannot be held responsible for your actions. You legally are not an adult.

I personally don't like the whole idea of parents signing waivers then dropping their kids off at a field. That's paintball. This is airsoft, not a daycare.

Use the search function but basically, it's all about liability.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...ht=restriction

TokyoSeven June 17th, 2010 18:44

Its not about maturity.

Maturity only factors into the equation slightly. Its about liability and in Canada the age where one can be legally held responsible for their actions is the age of 18. Given the nature of airsoft and how the the devices look if something were to go wrong or they were to be misused the only person to blame and be held responsible would be the person who was using them and not their parent or guardian.

moz_boz June 17th, 2010 18:49

And if we where to base it on level of maturity, then most of us would not be allowed to play :)

I mean seriously, we run around in fields shooting each other with plastic bb's. Our spouses must have some questions about our maturity for that.

xXSkillzScopeXx June 17th, 2010 18:51

Ok ok but what if parents stay at the field and then u know what after seeing their kids play it and have a blast they are also going to want to give it a try

coach June 17th, 2010 18:51

I can show you a kid who's 12 and is as much responsible and mature as someone who is 30.
I can also show you a 12 year old who is as much responsible and mature as a 50 year old, but that 50 year old acts like they are 8.

This sport or, what I rather call it, hobby is growing just fine without under aged kids who cannot be 'legally' responsible for their actions while playing.

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Originally Posted by xXSkillzScopeXx (Post 1256658)
Ok ok but what if parents stay at the field and then u know what after seeing their kids play it and have a blast they are also going to want to give it a try

There are minors among us but their parents/guardians are well known and respected in the community. They play side by side with their child all the time. Having mommy sitting in the safezone reading a magazine or yapping on the phone does no good.

xXSkillzScopeXx June 17th, 2010 18:54

I also don't get how the paintball community can do it and this one can't? When I first started pball all the vets were very helpfull

xXSkillzScopeXx June 17th, 2010 18:56

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Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1256660)
I can show you a kid who's 12 and is as much responsible and mature as someone who is 30.
I can also show you a 12 year old who is as much responsible and mature as a 50 year old, but that 50 year old acts like they are 8.

This sport or, what I rather call it, hobby is growing just fine without under aged kids who cannot be 'legally' responsible for their actions while playing.



There are minors among us but their parents/guardians are well known and respected in the community. They play side by side with their child all the time. Having mommy sitting in the safezone reading a magazine or yapping on the phone does no good.

Ok well then why do 90% of adults not know of airsoft

GBear June 17th, 2010 18:56

Comparing airsoft to paintball? Ouch, that hurts. They're completely different. :)

TokyoSeven June 17th, 2010 18:56

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Originally Posted by xXSkillzScopeXx (Post 1256658)
Ok ok but what if parents stay at the field and then u know what after seeing their kids play it and have a blast they are also going to want to give it a try

If the field allows youth participation along with parent or guardian participation that is fine.

We could play the what if game all day. The bottom line is that this website maintains the ideal that airsoft should only be bought, owned and used by those who are the age of 18 or older. We do not govern Canada, if you can find a place that with allow you to participate then by all means enjoy yourself.

xXSkillzScopeXx June 17th, 2010 18:58

Ok so if we sign waiver and play along side someone then it's ok?

Tex June 17th, 2010 18:59

xXSkillzScopeXx you should look in to meeting with locals there are groups in your area that allow -18's

xXSkillzScopeXx June 17th, 2010 19:00

Cuz I have already invested money into the sport

L473ncy June 17th, 2010 19:01

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Originally Posted by xXSkillzScopeXx (Post 1256664)
Ok well then why do 90% of adults not know of airsoft

Op-For allows 17+, and 15+ in some circumstances. Fraser Valley Airsoft allows minors check out their rules for more info. They play at Bigfoot in Mission.

Honestly, you come off as a bit whiny and I'd really be wary about letting you play even if you were 18. This is an honour sport and complaining like this doesn't really speak too much about your honesty.

Just sit back and seek out clubs that allow minors, it's as simple as that.

TokyoSeven June 17th, 2010 19:02

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Originally Posted by xXSkillzScopeXx (Post 1256668)
Ok so if we sign waiver and play along side someone then it's ok?

Waivers are flimsy pieces of paper as you grow older you will learn that they only serve the sole purpose of making people "feel" better.

I imagine that "someone" would have to be your legal guardian or at least should be. As mentioned above you should look into your local venues.

coach June 17th, 2010 19:02

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Originally Posted by xXSkillzScopeXx (Post 1256661)
I also don't get how the paintball community can do it and this one can't? When I first started pball all the vets were very helpfull

it's not that we can't, we choose not to. nothing to do with vets. the majority of the vets here will spend the time to explain countless things until you are bored and wanting to leave, but they will keep talking. trust me, I have been in numerous mid game post game discussions that if we didn't have to go home, we'd still be there talking about kit, guns or past games.

We, the community, support a strict 18+ rule. does it suck to be 14 and in your position? sure it does. will we bend the rules for you or anyone else? nope.

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Originally Posted by xXSkillzScopeXx (Post 1256664)
Ok well then why do 90% of adults not know of airsoft

because we'd rather them not know! it's better that way!

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Originally Posted by xXSkillzScopeXx (Post 1256668)
Ok so if we sign waiver and play along side someone then it's ok?

that someone, at least in Ontario, will need to be your parent or legal guardian. not an older sibling or a family friend.

scottyfox June 17th, 2010 19:03

In addition to the legality and the wishes of field owners, and the ability of ASC to set it's rules regarding classifieds-
I simply would not want to play with 14 year olds. There, I said it.
Playing milsim. Simulating combat. We have our kit and our guns and we go down to the right type of belt and what not. The last thing I want is a child in the field.

I've thought of international humanitarian law regarding the use of child soldiers enough, the last place I care to think of it is down range of my gun.

Just my two cents.

xXSkillzScopeXx June 17th, 2010 19:04

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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 1256670)
xXSkillzScopeXx you should look in to meeting with locals there are groups in your area that allow -18's

Ya i know I think they play at panthers and Bigfoot I wish they played at ambush pball I live like 15mins away

TokyoSeven June 17th, 2010 19:05

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Originally Posted by xXSkillzScopeXx (Post 1256664)
Ok well then why do 90% of adults not know of airsoft

Why do 95% of adults not know that tritium is a by product of a Deuterium Uranium fission reactor?

xXSkillzScopeXx June 17th, 2010 19:13

Then maybe there should be minors league where we can learn the sport and then move on up

moz_boz June 17th, 2010 19:14

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Originally Posted by xXSkillzScopeXx (Post 1256672)
Cuz I have already invested money into the sport

I hope you are not talking about buying ClearSoft from Wal-Mart. That is not an investment, that is just a waste of money

L473ncy June 17th, 2010 19:16

There are....

Ambush Anonymous
Low Shots
"EASY" Group (Edmonton Airsoft Youth)

Like we've been telling you seek out clubs that allow minors. I've even given you information that's relevant to your region, is there any easier way we can spell this out for you?

Eeyore June 17th, 2010 19:17

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Originally Posted by xXSkillzScopeXx (Post 1256661)
I also don't get how the paintball community can do it and this one can't? When I first started pball all the vets were very helpfull

That is actually not true, we are being helpful. We answered your questions about the ICS,and we are giving you honest and helpful answers to your questions about underage players. Please don't mistake not being helpful with not getting what you want. You are welcome to stay as part of this community as a minor and to gain experiance, but because you are a mature young man, please respect our communities rules.

kalnaren June 17th, 2010 19:19

We don't allow it because 90% of the kids we get are whiny little bitches that complain about how "mature" people should be allowed to play and can't see beyond their own selfish interest far enough to get the legal reasons why having a kid run around with an imitation firearm is a bad idea.

Huh. Sounds kindof like this thread, doesn't it?

xXSkillzScopeXx June 17th, 2010 19:19

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Originally Posted by moz_boz (Post 1256685)
I hope you are not talking about buying ClearSoft from Wal-Mart. That is not an investment, that is just a waste of money

I did buy one and it was shit so I went and put $165 into a side arm 100$ into a mask and lots of other stuff but atlest I haven't gotten my aeg yet

TokyoSeven June 17th, 2010 19:22

As it stands you have been informed of this websites policy and where the community stands on it.

You have also been informed of possible options and play venues that may be willing to accommodate for your age.

This discussion has reached its high point and is now over.


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