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hey guys since it seems that i am nder age and wont be playing with u guys for a bit i have decided to go with a sniper(i will have time to upgrade and practice)

my price range is a round $300 to MAYBE 400 for now

i was thinking of the well/tsd l96 its about 300 on 007 airsoft and on buyairsoft.ca

here is also a used tm vsr 10 clone on craigslist:
Hi and thanks for viewing my ad. As the title says, I am selling my TM VSR-10 Marui Clone Airsoft Sniper Rifle.

Upgrades:
New Reinforced Trigger Sear
New Reinforced Piston Sear (I still have the old sears too as proof)
Teflon Upgrade
Tightened & Adjusted Cylinder Head
Cleaned & Lubricated Inner Cylinder (Bolt, Spring, Spring guide, etc.)
Grip Taped Magazines
Custom Camouflage Paint Job - "Shadow Ops" Camo (see pics)

Comes With:

EVERYTHING!
Gun (obviously)
Cleaning Rod
Sling
Speed Loader
Original Box & Manual
3-9x40 Scope
Harris Adjustable Bi-Pod
3 Magazines

Stats:

Up To 480fps w/.2g
Furthest Confirmed Hit: 250ft
Weight: Approx. 7lbs

**PLEASE READ**
If you require any further information or would like to make an offer, please inquire by just shooting me an e-mail. The reason I have listed this at just $1 is because I want you to bid. Thats right, just send me an offer, or as many as you like. The highest bid takes it. Keep in mind the value of this gun after all of it's work, upgrades and included accessories is worth over $700. So please, SERIOUS OFFERS ONLY. Any low-ballers will just be ignored.

Thanks,
Ace.


here i will post link so you can see the pics:
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rc...799750713.html

the other gun i found is the maruzen aps type 96 on redwolf airsoft for 355
does rwolf airsoft ship to bc and are they a good site?


so ya what do you guys think about these 3 guns and are tere any other suggestions? thx i look forward to playing with u guys n future maybe i can join another group till then.

Ok but where to start. Before making your choice and actually buying anyone of those guns, I suggest you search the word sniper on ASC. There you will find about 1000 threads where members ask questions about buying a sniper rifle as their first gun. While reading those threads you will notice a common trend where the more experianced members try to disuade the newer ones from getting a sniper rifle as their first gun. The reasons are numerous and as you will no doubt ignore my suggestion about doing a search I will condense the relative points.


DON"T

Sniping in airsoft is not like in video games or in movies, it can be very boring to wait for someone to come into your kill area. Secondly unless your pour hundreds of dollars into a sniper platform they have the exact same range as any other gun, but without being able to match the rate of fire. You will be out gunned very quicky. Please heed this advice, wait a few more years to buy a gun. Get a good quality aeg as your first one, then after, once you are set for gear get a sniper platform if you are still interested. Most new players who go sniper first end up selling their gun at a loss and buying a aeg. Also until other players feel secure with you playing as a sniper as they shoot at a higher fps than aegs are allowed you will not be allowed to game it. Shooting with a hot gun a close range will/can result in injury.

That starts quite bad...

Buyairsoft will definitely sell you one... 007 won't (Ken checks for age before selling, good selling practice)

You can try your luck with that craiglist, but if I where you, I would not. Theses rifles usually last about 1000 rounds then implode (trigger group, piston, spring guide).

Redwolf airsoft is in HK. Means outside Canada. Means you have not read the FAQs.

Here:

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=40318

What part of "under aged" don't you understand?

Go back to teenage'd pursuits like highschool, sneaking beers and trying to touch a boob. Airsoft will be here when you are old enough.

i know i have read about not getting a sniper for my first gun but im 14 so i have time to fiddle with it untill 18 and by that time i will prob have a sniper and an aeg. for now im gonna just practice with my friends

lol'd

ok i would test fire if i buy of clist and i would get my dad to order off of 007 (i already got a good side arm which me and my dad bought at a local store)

Haha, worth $700? For POS upgrades? Seems like the seller is under aged as well.

ya i know im underaged but for now i think the local club will allow it if i have supervision. thats untill i can play with u guys and i can also play with all my friends at this place we got

thats what i thought too i was going to offer him around 350

OMG...

You don't quite get it.

If you buy that gun off craiglist, you will then shoot your friend.

If you won't know what an L96 shooting 500 fps does to someone close range, I will explain you.

Here:

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2...jured02lx1.jpg

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In this picture, you can see an adult, with a BB stuck under his skin, because he was shot. The BB broke the skin and entered the hole.

Now, this is a grown man. Means that they are consentent to shoot each other. I can tell you that I have seen situations where two adults where about to fight because of a too close shot.

Now you are 14. Means that if you shoot your L96 at a friend and hurt him that way, his parent can and will probably go against yours.

The problem is that media will get a hold of the story. Then suddenly all airsoft guns are lethal and must be removed. Thank you, we just lost the right to play soldier because you where stupid.

But even more. What if your friend's parents decide to sue your parent (you are both underage, mean that you have nothing to say, your parents decide stuff). Under a year you could find yourself under childs protection and moved to an other family because you where stupid, and your parents would have a huge fine to pay. Hell you might end in juvi for assault with a weapon...

By the way, I had an L96 before. I let my friends shoot at a target. Eventually, one shot the other in the arm while he was changing targets. The BB entered the skin. We took pliers to remove the BB, and had to cut open the skin a bit more to be able to get it out. Then the guy when to hospital and now has a scar similar to a cigarette burn mark.

The target was at 55' from the gun... meaning that the range was maybe 50'.

ok i now understand how dangeous they can be but i shoot pelet gun with my friends(not at each other) but we are pretty safe. we would make a miimum engadgement range for snipers,wear pball masks and other protective gear.(like layers, and some of us have body armour made for paintball) woud that be a bit better?

Once again you fail to understand, yes obviously wearing protection is better, but in the heat of the moment if your friend had the hot gun would you always trust then not to take a shot if it was close? Secondly the legality does not change, your parents could still be sued and your parents could still sue your friends parents. Where would you and your frineds play?

oh ya i dont think it shoots 500fps cuz its a well clone but 450ish is still dangerous

As you know, ASC strictly enforces their belief in 18+ y/o airsoft owners. Any help from guys on here that leads to you getting your hands on an airsoft will lead to infractions.

My suggestion, you have plenty of time to save up for a quality airsoft gun rather then buying cheap now and making it a "quality" build..a lot less headaches that way trust me. See if you can arrange rentals from people in your community, that way you'll have a chance to try different builds and loadouts to see what fits you. Don't be so hasty in buying an airsoft gun, you may find sniping isn't your thing which is probably what happened to the guy on craigslist.

No, you're not getting the point, you're 14, you're not allowed to even own or purchase a BB or Pellet gun, you're not allowed to fire this shit outside within city limits of most if not all cities/townships, You won't be allowed to play with the airsoft community until you're 18, you can't just go find a field or forest to play in with your buddies. Don't bother telling us that you own large private property to play on, the rest of Canada already belongs to the other 13 and 14 year olds if we believed any of them. As has already been pointed out, don't get a sniper, you'll do a fuckload of laying around doing nothing with you engaging people being a not so common occurence. Wait till you're 18, get age verified and then come play with us, until then pay attention at school, get a job, spend time going after girls (or guys if that's your thing) and maybe even get laid, then when you turn 18, come on out and play, we'll be more than happy to accept you if you prove to be responsible and safe in 4 years time. Right now it's not a question of those things, it's a question of legality and liability.

PS: I came on these boards in 2005 so I would only have been about 15, closing on 16, best thing I ever did was wait, you want to join our community? that's fine, but as a community we have rules, followign these rules is how it works but also has the benefit of proving you're capable of following "our ways" and have a valid interest in the sport and community. 3 years awas a long wait but it's definately worth it.


PSS: Christ ...... I've been a member on these boards for 5 years?!

if they got too close i would use my pistol cuz a bolt action sniper would suck agaisnt an aeg at close range

we would maybe play at real place ment for it wth parents there and at some other places that are available to us(forested land with some high grasses and plains with tons of bunkers)

ok so maybe i can stil get an ok sniper build it and do targets with my dad then lokk into an aeg. i will have enough money for the upgrades and to get an aeg. (hell i could get both this year i can ask for 1 for christmas)

what gun would be a good gun that i can work on and will last till im old enough to play with guys

Dude, I know that you are just itching to play, and it sucks to have to wait a few years until you are 18, but saying how you are mature and will be careful will not change our opinions and advice. Save your money, focus on the important things in life right now, stay part of the ASC community and read the threads and post questions. The bottom line is that we wont help you obtain a gun or let you play with us at your age. You can now choose to take our advice and accept it or ignore us and hope that your parents and friends don't have to face the consequences. There really is nothing more to say.

Are you just downright stupid? Or, as is more likely, did you just ignore everything you've been told?

Ignoring what has been said and going ahead with your plans is a good way to get yourself branded as undesirable with this community, NOT a good way to get yourself accepted when you turn 18.

Either way, the next four years would be much more usefully spent improving your english and grammatical skills instead of playing with toy guns

ok so i should just stick to paintball? but u did say i could ask questions for when im older so here it is: what would a god begginers sniper be the well l96,tm vsr10 clone or others just so i can do more research on the correct gun

None of those are good snipers, in this sport you get what you pay for. You're more than welcome to post and ask stuff until you're old enough to buy and own these items. None of those guns are good though, I'm looking to get into sniping and I've been recommended to stay away from those from all the info I could find and people I talked to

and also in how can just shooting cans with my dad be so bad? i already have an airsoft gun so im going to do that anyways?

ok so what arethe good snpers cuz when i get older i could put money into any sniper like the well l96, the l96 design seems to be my favourite

overall thanks more the good advice everyone so i wont blow more money till im older although it really sucks

Right now it doesn't matter what good ones are, as who knows what will come out or be discontinued in the next 4 years, there's a few good ones, all of which can be found easily by doing a google search

To be honest there is no such thing as a good beginers sniper platform. The closest is a long barreled AR type rifle. Because any sniper platform that will actually have an advantage over an aeg will cost about $600 plus about $400-500 of upgrades. So figure $1100 for a gun with slightly better range and acuracy that an aeg, and then assume that about half of the people who try sniping end up deciding it is not for them. If you like playing paintball keep playing it, I play paintball all the time too even though I play airsoft. Its not one or the other.

but what brands and models are good and would be in my price range cuz i want to start saving now and get a good IDEA of what i want for the future

ya ok thats my point airsoft is expensive thats why i want to build a gun over time to spread out the pain and then when i can play it will be ready and bye that time i can also get my hands on an aeg

Once again bud, THERE ARE NO GOOD SNIPER RIFLE PLATFORMS IN YOUR PRICE RANGE!!!!!1! If you are set firm on sniping as your first gun, save up $1200, then you'll need about $50 for boots, $50 for goggles, $100 for bdu's, $50 for mags, $300 for a pistol, $80-150 for a ghillie suit depending on if you make it or not. Then about another $200 for other costs. So in total save $2000 to play as a sniper. Infact to keep you occupied why not build your own ghillie suit. It can be dont for under $100, and there are many thread and great links on this site. Plus if you ask nicely there are a couple guys on here who have gotten really good at building them.

Is it me, or is his spelling kind of bad? Just wait till Pusangani gets a hold on this thread D=

Your best bet would be to wait a few years till you can get age verified. Trust me, you probably know somewhere in your head that your "Dream Sniper Rifle" will be left in the back of your closet to rot one day. You are still growing, just like me. We get new hobbies and we sometimes lose interest in others. So now ask your self, are you dedicated to blow off lots and lots of money for this hobby?

Ps: I suggest you listen to the other age verified members of ASC.

- Just my little cookie.

i have tryed google but its hard to find good guns at good prices that can be in canada most advice and guns on google is american

no my latops eyboard is kinda messed

There are no guns in your price range that are good. If you keep asking the same question again and again the answer isn't going to change. Your too young to own one too, if someone where to see you shooting your friends your backyard and call the cops thinking it was real which leads to the cop shooting you...airsoft gets a bad name and ruins it for everyone else that listened and plays by the rules.

ok so what im asking is can the well l96 be turned into a good gun (everyoe on youtube says its awesome) and ten what about that tm that i found

The answer doesn't matter because your not allowed to own one.

making a ghille is a god idea cuz i can use for pball to or could just buy one for about $100

No, no it can't, it's a Well, they're horseshit, everyone on youtube says they're great because they're 12-15 years old, they're american and only pay a small portion of what it costs for us to buy the same gun, they're idiots or a mixture of all three

Make as many ghillie suits as you want, they're fine and won't get you into much if any trouble, for all we care you can make a Ghillie mini-van cover

One thing that is just plain good advice, don't listen to youtube reviews! At least 90% of all youtube reviews are made by 14 year old kids who don't have access to anything that is actually good. The L96 may be "the most amazing sniper available" according to kids who usually play with WalMart crap. But that doesn't make it good.

If you already have a pistol for shooting cans with your Dad, that's cool. Stick with it. Keep reading and you'll learn alot. I've only been into airsoft for a few months now and I have learned so much stuff I'm gonna have to start forgetting people's names to make room in my brain for airsoft knowledge.

Just chill out for a bit, read alot, don't impulse buy. You'll enjoy it alot more that way.

No don't buy one, make one. If you are truely set on being a sniper take the time ( alot of time) and patience and make your own ghillie. Trust me, the feeling of accomplishment will be worth the effort in the end.

Dont spoonfeed the baby. Hes already been spoonfed enough. Just cause hes a baby and regurgitates the info we JUST fed him demands more doesnt mean we should keep spoonfeeding him.

Hes not listening to a word we said from page one. Let him buy the well, let him buy the tsd and other crap, let him shoot his stupid friends. Better yet, let him try to import from overseas with daddy's credit card.

Go play paintball kid. And dont ask paintball questions on this board. this is AIRSOFT Canada, not PAINTBALL Canada.

Okay, enough. You had a warning handed out cuz at this rate it looks like you're gonna be making a new thread like this every week til you turn 18.

GO READ.

As Eeyore already suggested, paintball is where you want to be.

Despite the fact that I have informed you about this websites policy; you choose to go ahead and ignore it and state your interest in building an airsoft gun anyways. Until you are the age of majority you will receive no advice or assistance. Do whatever you wish, just leave us out of it.

You being on my radar is not a bad thing.

You being on Drakes radar is a bad thing.

You have been warned.