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Coresair July 29th, 2010 11:10

Official: KWA TDI Kriss Super-V
 
Original article from Thumpy

http://www.popularairsoft.com/news/t...-kriss-licence

Official press release at the end of the article.

Cheers.

iggim109 July 29th, 2010 15:24

wow!!! just wow!!!! now i want one

pounce_the_jaguar July 29th, 2010 15:28

Count me in on buying one of these pretty little things.

Link to the article itself:

http://www.kwausa.com/news/news_072910.html

Cortex July 29th, 2010 21:44

Sexy and do want, perhaps a Cansoft version will be made since it's KWA... That or maybe it'll be legal to import!

The Chad July 29th, 2010 22:45

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=108306

Tex July 29th, 2010 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chad (Post 1286006)

so? this thread was first and it is in the news stand were it should be.

The Chad July 29th, 2010 22:55

Oh my, sorry guys. Seen the other one first today.

drew2r July 29th, 2010 22:58

O.o I think I came just reading that article, definitely want one those when they hit the market.

StrikeFreedom July 29th, 2010 23:05

Looks like the Halo2 pistol.

Mr Jon July 29th, 2010 23:31

*opens wallet*
http://www.dmt07.com/gen_img/ffffuuuu.jpg

PaddMadd July 31st, 2010 20:33

My dick just went hard.

I'm going to grow my fauxhawk back. With my Task Force 141 patch, I can buy this and be the biggest MW2 fanboy on the field!

EN SABAH NUR August 2nd, 2010 01:06

finally! now make one in a 7.62x51 NATO. do want

Coresair August 2nd, 2010 07:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by EN SABAH NUR (Post 1287783)
finally! now make one in a 7.62x51 NATO. do want

1. It uses glock mags

2. It wouldn't be a sub-machine gun anymore


It's chambered for .45ACP. The only other caliber they will make in is .40S&W (Real Steel) which really doesn't mean anything in airsoft. Unless they made a 6 AND a 8mm bb version but highly unlikely since it's almost proprietary to Marushin (I say almost because even though I only heard of marushin using them, I know Madbull makes some)

Now if BBBs we're to make a 8mm, maybe we would go somewhere with this :P

cjboi August 6th, 2010 16:42

some people think this gun looks like a big stapler gun lol... In that case, its a beatiful stapler gun :D I want one. I wonder if the real trademarks will be on the gun too, since KWA sucks at making trademarks. I hope KSC makes kriss vector too :D

sushicake August 6th, 2010 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjboi (Post 1290838)
some people think this gun looks like a big stapler gun lol... In that case, its a beatiful stapler gun :D I want one. I wonder if the real trademarks will be on the gun too, since KWA sucks at making trademarks. I hope KSC makes kriss vector too :D

If it's gas it's going to be a KSC just rebranded to KWA when it lands in the States.

EN SABAH NUR August 10th, 2010 00:00

oh i'm sure that with enough ingenuity they can make a "kriss" in any calibre possible that utilizes that recoil redirection thingy. The magwell, barrel, bolt/extractor and a lot of the receiver will change but imagine the stopping power!

You're right it won't be a sub machinegun anymore. it would be an assault rifle at least. Why stop at 7.62 nato? Let's try 12 gauge, .50bmg, 20mm...or even 30mm!...then A SIX POUNDER!

a boy can dream can't he? :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coresair (Post 1287825)
1. It uses glock mags

2. It wouldn't be a sub-machine gun anymore


It's chambered for .45ACP. The only other caliber they will make in is .40S&W (Real Steel) which really doesn't mean anything in airsoft. Unless they made a 6 AND a 8mm bb version but highly unlikely since it's almost proprietary to Marushin (I say almost because even though I only heard of marushin using them, I know Madbull makes some)

Now if BBBs we're to make a 8mm, maybe we would go somewhere with this :P


Dart August 10th, 2010 00:31

hmm I like that it uses glock mags, means you don't have to go buy a bunch of new GBB mags.

Notice how almost all GBBRs so far that have been successful have used "m4" mags *i know they arn't called that*

And now that we have a m14 GBBR... I can see a ScarL :D

As for the clear "cansoft" version it should be easy enough to get around that with a co2 being shipped with it for certification.

sushicake August 11th, 2010 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dart (Post 1292958)
hmm I like that it uses glock mags, means you don't have to go buy a bunch of new GBB mags.

Notice how almost all GBBRs so far that have been successful have used "m4" mags *i know they arn't called that*

And now that we have a m14 GBBR... I can see a ScarL :D

As for the clear "cansoft" version it should be easy enough to get around that with a co2 being shipped with it for certification.

M4 mags are called "Stanag" mags.

Anyways the barrel I'm guessing is going to be pretty short on the KRISS seeing that they still got to put a hop-up in it and everything. It's probably not going to be a very successful gun all the CODMW2 kids will be drooling over it though.

cjboi August 11th, 2010 00:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by sushicake (Post 1293774)
M4 mags are called "Stanag" mags.

Anyways the barrel I'm guessing is going to be pretty short on the KRISS seeing that they still got to put a hop-up in it and everything. It's probably not going to be a very successful gun all the CODMW2 kids will be drooling over it though.

I'm sure it wont interfere with the inner barrel. KWA would probably put the hop up system on top of the inner barrel, just like their MP7A1. So I'm guessing the inner barrel would be longer than the mp7 or maybe just as long as the MP7A1. Call of Duty MW2 needs to upgrade their gun facts on their guns anyways, such as the ACR where in the game it shoots just as weak as the M4 when you could put an AK caliber in it, same thing with the Kriss Vector in the game where its so inaccurate, when in real life its more accurate than a UMP and UMP in Call of Duty MW2 is so deadly and accurate.

Dynamo August 11th, 2010 14:22

i wonder if the superV system could be adapted to fire a rifle round in a bulpup arrangement. that would be sick. from what i saw in the cuts out views in the video, the trigger mechanism sits above the barrel/mag (like it's upside down).
can't wait to see how KWA is going to pull this off.

EN SABAH NUR August 11th, 2010 22:46

I think you mean SCAR H. The SCAR H and the M14 use different mags. If anything the SCAR H mag (when they make it) will probably be closer to a SCAR L/M4's magazine since an M14's rocks into the magwell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dart (Post 1292958)
hmm I like that it uses glock mags, means you don't have to go buy a bunch of new GBB mags.

Notice how almost all GBBRs so far that have been successful have used "m4" mags *i know they arn't called that*

And now that we have a m14 GBBR... I can see a ScarL :D

As for the clear "cansoft" version it should be easy enough to get around that with a co2 being shipped with it for certification.


ThunderCactus August 12th, 2010 00:14

It's so hideous.....I MUST HAVE IT!!!

Short Round August 16th, 2010 01:52

Well looks like I need to learn about GBBRs now :p

Ninja_En_Short August 25th, 2010 16:17

Super V system is really good for short barrel weapon with high recoil / rate of fire and short range like the Kriss... even though the demonstration on TDI website is full of crap when they fire UMP. I fired both, I never felt enough recoil on an UMP to be pushed back like that... or get such elevation.
And the barrel is much smaller than an MP7 one (for SMG). It's even smaller than a Colt 1911 one.

On a bulpup rifle I wanted to put that into my assault rifle (I'm on the third prototype) but when I ran the simulation on the computer I found it pretty annoying :

- Behind the trigger : makes the stock going down and actually adding to the recoil... like basic physics would tell and not exactly what I was looking for :confused:

- Between hand : brutaly changes the balance of forces and in the end is more tiring on the arms than a standard design where all the recoil is going in your chest/shoulder (depending if you know how to handle a gun or being a BWD kikoolol).

I just removed that entirely in the end.

I'll make an airsoft version when I'll come up with a definitive version :D

sirtaco27 August 26th, 2010 11:06

Wow. I creamed myself when I heard they're going to market a TDI Kriss Super-V. I'm going to get it the second it comes out.

Assault Pioneer August 26th, 2010 11:35

anyone figure if it will come out as safe soft with velocity or we'll have to get it on the boards here?

Ninja_En_Short August 30th, 2010 22:31

Doubt it, the kriss is an SMG GBB so around 370 at 20 degrees Celsius (and no I don`t know how much Fahrenheit it does) and has a one piece polymer body, unless you want a fully (and ugly) transparent model, you`ll have to bring one through retailer.

ILLusion January 20th, 2011 12:41

Looks like KWA is releasing the first prototype at SHOT Show 2011, happening THIS weekend!

Click the link for more details:
http://airsoft.ua/en/news/802.html

Drake January 20th, 2011 14:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLusion (Post 1391110)
Looks like KWA is releasing the first prototype at SHOT Show 2011, happening THIS weekend!

Click the link for more details:
http://airsoft.ua/en/news/802.html

Schweeeeeet.

I like the two tone setup.

Hopefully it won't suck. It would be hugely disappointing if it was just another [typically configured] GBB SMG in a Kriss body, complete with the traditional "recoil" (I'm being optimistic and thinking of the KWC Mini Uzi). Not to mention KWA's been a mixed bag lately.

R.I.T.Z January 20th, 2011 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 1391184)
Schweeeeeet.

I like the two tone setup.

Hopefully it won't suck. It would be hugely disappointing if it was just another [typically configured] GBB SMG in a Kriss body, complete with the traditional "recoil" (I'm being optimistic and thinking of the KWC Mini Uzi). Not to mention KWA's been a mixed bag lately.

I wouldnt be expecting a whole lot from the recoil as the real kriss, has a recoil reduction system in place to fire the .45 round more accurately.
and it would be nice if they made the gun able to take glock mags.....

Coresair January 20th, 2011 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 1391190)
I wouldnt be expecting a whole lot from the recoil as the real kriss, has a recoil reduction system in place to fire the .45 round more accurately.
and it would be nice if they made the gun able to take glock mags.....

KWA used to make Glocks, so I don't think that is even something we have think about. KSC sys 7 glock mags should work if that's the case.

R.I.T.Z January 20th, 2011 15:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coresair (Post 1391209)
KWA used to make Glocks, so I don't think that is even something we have think about. KSC sys 7 glock mags should work if that's the case.

yeah but you never know, hopefully they are cross compatible, and not proprietary. the recoil will be interesting.

Padkiller January 20th, 2011 16:42

SMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!
i WANT ONE AS WELL !

Cujo101 January 20th, 2011 17:30

Want it!!!!!!!!!!!

MilanWG January 20th, 2011 17:41

A quality airsoft GBB replica of the Kriss would be amazing - definitely something to keep your eye on!

iggim109 January 21st, 2011 02:11

hey guys here is youtube clip from shot show 2011
YouTube - KWA talks about KRISS VECTOR at the Shot Show 2011

cjboi January 21st, 2011 03:24

two round burst ??? nice!

Coresair January 21st, 2011 15:35

Don't want to go off topic in my own thread...but that Sphinx pistol looks awfully like a CZ P-07 DUTY...excited? I know I am.

R.I.T.Z January 21st, 2011 23:13

the K10 wont be produced because of the internals being way different from the vector.
the ector sound like will be released december this year! woot!

uberyoji January 21st, 2011 23:57

K10 here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/itstactical/5370886973/

Another pic: http://www.airsoftnews.fr/wp-content...HINX-KRISS.jpg

R.I.T.Z January 22nd, 2011 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by uberyoji (Post 1392445)

listen to him talk!
those guns in the cases are the RS ones they ARE NOT prototypes
hey also explicitly mentions THEY ARE NOT PRODUCING THE K10

Death March January 22nd, 2011 01:58

I'v been waiting two years since they started on about the KRISS,I want one NOW lol.

bean January 22nd, 2011 09:23

Yeah I can confirm that the ones in the case were indeed real. The k10 wont be made for now. They held off production of the vector while waiting to check out the k10. Having fired two of the real vectors this week I am actually excited for an airsoft release. KWA will also be releasing a gbbr ak that is quite interesting.

uberyoji January 22nd, 2011 10:37

@ritz: calm down, i know those are rs (in fact it looks more like a resin prototype), i posted pics for ppl who wanted to see what it looked like and see how it differs from the super v.

archer1276 April 6th, 2011 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Death March (Post 1392517)
I'v been waiting two years since they started on about the KRISS,I want one NOW lol.

Im with ya bro. I check up on the KWA website news daily, and once a week on the forums i check to see if anything new..even the head rep "Allizard" states that since the announcement from June 2010, they don't even have a working prototype..something tangible that just needs the bugs worked out... such a bummer. What perhaps sucks even more is KWA has the exclusive rights to build it, so if they dont make an electric version also, don't expect to see anyone else build one. It also means we won't see ANY version of it, until KWA gets things done on their end. Here's hoping...

Death March April 6th, 2011 18:26

I don't mind the fact that KWA is making it at all,I have alot of KWA/KSC stuff and for the most part think they work great for me.But at any rate I would like to see more info on a date of some kind. They were saying this spring(witch is now) but still havent seen anything else :(

archer1276 April 6th, 2011 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Death March (Post 1442983)
I don't mind the fact that KWA is making it at all,I have alot of KWA/KSC stuff and for the most part think they work great for me.But at any rate I would like to see more info on a date of some kind. They were saying this spring(witch is now) but still havent seen anything else :(

I agree, I have heard mainly good things about KWA, in fact I only know 1 person who had a new gun (KMP9R) with a firing issue, but that won't deter me from buying their products, plus I really want that gun! :) (Vector)

ibangkneebacks April 10th, 2011 02:35

i'm drowning, gasping for air...and the only thing i want to save me is that friggin TDI KRISS Vector!...damn i love that gun, fired one in New Mexico a year after its civillian release (LV, Mont., NM and i think another state too)...lemme just say the experience was "muvafakin awsome!"...one handed was the best...i and my whole airsoft club can't wait til these babies come out...gonna bring a different look on the faces of our game masters and judges when they see a TDI Vector KRISS on the stats card...this thing'll let you lay down about a half pound of lead down range, and not pussy lead either...we're talking 45 acp, man stoppers...
i think KWA said late third quarter, so in laymens terms-maybe november or december...as for K10's, there is no answer...but there's lots of speculations...i think there are two types, the GBB and AEG...and i think there's gonna be a body upgrade (don't hold me to it)...kinda sounds like they're going to release the KRISS, then release a kit that will allow a change to the K10

theshaneler April 10th, 2011 20:11

late 3rd quarter is September-October.

november-dec. is mid to late fourth quarter...


i am going to be really tempted to buy one of these, i think they look really cool. ill have to go search and see if there are more vids out yet...

R.I.T.Z April 10th, 2011 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibangkneebacks (Post 1444951)
i'm drowning, gasping for air...and the only thing i want to save me is that friggin TDI KRISS Vector!...damn i love that gun, fired one in New Mexico a year after its civillian release (LV, Mont., NM and i think another state too)...lemme just say the experience was "muvafakin awsome!"...one handed was the best...i and my whole airsoft club can't wait til these babies come out...gonna bring a different look on the faces of our game masters and judges when they see a TDI Vector KRISS on the stats card...this thing'll let you lay down about a half pound of lead down range, and not pussy lead either...we're talking 45 acp, man stoppers...
i think KWA said late third quarter, so in laymens terms-maybe november or december...as for K10's, there is no answer...but there's lots of speculations...i think there are two types, the GBB and AEG...and i think there's gonna be a body upgrade (don't hold me to it)...kinda sounds like they're going to release the KRISS, then release a kit that will allow a change to the K10

2 seperate models where to be released the KRISS and the K10. they put the K10 on the back burner until the KRISS was full operational and selling, they said the internals needed some changing on the K10 and it was still in the prototype stage

Schwag April 11th, 2011 14:54

It's still just another worthless, shitty gbbr. Make a Kriss aeg and I 'll buy it.

Viperfish April 24th, 2011 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwag (Post 1445790)
It's still just another worthless, shitty gbbr. Make a Kriss aeg and I 'll buy it.

id rather go with a gbbr over an aeg. more realistic. id be interested to see how they do the internals on this one


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