Element built ELCAN spectre DR 1x-4x
 

Elements built a elcan spectre DR with both 1X and 4x looks good so far and is more affordable then previous versions with eitehr 4x or 1x but this has both

http://www.brotherprice.com/ebphoto/...01X-4X%20a.jpg

http://www.brotherprice.com/ebphoto/...01X-4X%20a.jpg

http://www.ebairsoft.com/element-dua...4x-p-3411.html

I want one

You should really check the date of the post.

It will be availalbe next month.

How much will it be?

I sure hope they're better than the first ones that came out.

The earlier one does look good on the wall though ;)

I am not sure if the one coming is from element, I talked to an optics factory and that's the info given, next month.

Hope it'll be resistant to gbbr recoil...

The first gen can handle my WE gbbr, even the open bolt.

I've only ever heard of Eotech clones being affected badly by gbbrs. I have a cheap T1 micro that doesn't have a problem on my SBR.

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/accessori...ark-earth.html

-yes I know most of you hate Ehobby but its news.

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/media/cat...175_1_mark.jpg
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/media/cat...ope_1_mark.jpghttp://shop.ehobbyasia.com/media/cat...ope_2_mark.jpg

Am I right in thinking there's no zoom range on these? It's either 1x or 4x, right - no in between?

you are correct. its based on the real one.

holy fuck that thing is waaaay too expensive :(

not compared to the real steel version ;)
http://www.nightvisionweb.com/combat...pecter_dr.html

Love my fixed 4x clone one to death but if that were at least $60 cheaper I'd get one.

thats the clone... not the real one......

pending a review i'm pretty interested, the crosshairs seem pretty crisp

Let's just hope they don't put them in lopsided like half the ACOG/ fixed 4x Specters turned out...

well judging by the preview pics supplied they seem pretty decent

so what ? an eotech in its realsteal version is quite expensive too... a T31 Acog is expensive too I don't get the point, I would have understand a 150$ tag but heck...

Have on on my SCAR

I want one ! I want one !!!! well I'll get one anyway XD

Based on what?

That price seems reasonable considering what it does. If it lasts and is solid, the price is worth it. If it isn't, I wouldn't even pay $10 for it.

based on the fact that there are lot of scopes of decent quality for far less

this one is mainly for what??

C8 SFW or some machine guns??

It's for elite jewish space jedi ninjamasters.

For more details, look here: http://images.lmgtfy.com/?q=elcan+specterdr

my aesthetical standard is somewhat out.I like those 3.4x...

But I'd admit it looks exceptionally cool with the magpul M4.

I just ordered and received one of these from Uncompany.

http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...p?prodid=29681

So far, I have puty about 300 rounds through it on my open bolt NPAS WE PDW and it looks to be holding zero just fine. Don't forget, windage and elevation for elcan scopes is an adjustment of the mount, not an adjustment of the crosshairs, so unless there is something seriously wrong with your scope & mount, there is little chance you'll have trouble holding zero.

What I have noticed so far -
-The front iron sight is loose. It came to me in that condition.
-The battery cover is retained with a simple piece of thread - I'll have to rectify that with some wire of some sort.
-The QR tabs seemed to hold the scope a wee bit loose on my gun - This was cured by slightly bending the steel pressure tabs.
-There is a slight bit of play in the mount itself, however this play is self-centering so its not really an issue.
-The scope comes with a spare set of iron sights & screws, & an extra battery.
-The crosshairs are nice and sharp, and aren't magnified when you set the scope to 4x
-The red/green dot shares registration. Both colors provide 5 distinct illumination levels.
-When transitioning from 1x to 4x the scope does actually zoom, however the sight picture is slightly defocussed during transition.
-Scope image quality is excellent - sharp at both 1x and 4x
-Scope finish is basic flat black with sharply laser etched trades and markings.
-The scope doesn't seem to be airtight & threfore it is unlikely that it is nitrogen purged & unlikely to be waterproof
-I don't think a killflash will fit - There is only one or two threads visible at the muzzle end of the scope and they are gunked up with some kind of sealant/adhesive
-Eye relief is 2-3 or 4 inches... it shouldn't hit your goggles.
-Unlike a red-dot, you are still looking through an optic when it is set to 1x, so you will get tunnel vision if you try to look through the scope from further than 4 inches.

So...Agit-Prop, what's the short of it?

Q. Is it worth the price?

Q. Would you buy this one again if you had to?

Q. Is it a "go-to" optic for that big game of the year?

The answers to those questions is "maybe" at this time... Got to get out to a game with it.

Have you compared this one to the 4x version at all?

Nope.

I have one as well, and largely agree with this review but with a few addition:

- for mine, the 1X is actually off-centre by about 2 MOA to the right - but get this, during the shift to 4X the reticule shifts to the centre. Fix - pop up front sight and aim with your front sight post when in 1X mode.

- "impact" shift when zoom-unzoom-zoom - but not sure whether this is a mount issue or a sight issue.

- eye-relief on this one is extremely generous however, and is a big step up from the various (airsoft) ACOG I've handled.

To the question of whether this scope is worth it - not really, get the 4X version instead and mount MRD on top and I don't think you will be missing much if you are a "function over form" guy, just make sure you find a 4X Spectre with decent eye-relief.

Just want to add to this, All ACOG (even real ones i've looked through) have shit eye relief, in fact some "shitty" airsoft ones have better eye relief then the real deal. Eotech specters all have GREAT eye relief, My 4x specter is usable up to 7 inches from my eye.

Any updates on this? Thinking about getting one and planning on putting it on a GBBR. Mostly wondering if it works as intended and if there are any zeroing issues.