Echo1 AEG's
 

Is there anyone currently importing Echo1 AEG's into Canada. I am considering breaking one down and bringing it into canada over a number of trips across the border unless there is a retailer who is already importing them. Thanks.

Don't do that.

To answer your question, yes.

Don't smuggle guns across the border.

What model are you looking for?

I don't plan on smuggling a gun across, if anything I would be bringing parts across.

I am looking for the ER25.

You're AV'd so I'm guessing you know the reason behind Age Verification, you've also been a member since 2001, soooo umm wtf?

and FYI the receiver/body won't make it across, and no receiver = no gun.

If you bring a gun across in parts, which it sounds like you want to do, that would include the receiver.

Which is smuggling.

Which is illegal, and we don't condone that on ASC.

Look, I just want to know if anyone sells the Echo1 product line, I did not come here to argue any semantics with you all. I am obviously making the attempt to purchase the item in Canada, hence why I am asking.

I haven't seen a JG SR25 for sale in Canada, but I could be wrong.

Thanks.

At this time I dont see any retailers in the retailer section stocking any Echo1.
You may wish to have a quick run through for yourself just to makes sure.

What is illegal about bringing a reciever across the border? I purchased my metal body and RIS off the web when I built my HK51 a few years back. Please keep in mind I recently played my first game in years and I am not up to speed on the current laws regarding airsoft importation. It never use to be a problem to bring a gun in to the country so long as it was roken down and shipped in seperate orders.

Smuggling a receiver across the border is illegal.

Do some research on this site, there's a FAQ section for that.

wow, thanks for the in depth answer.

wow I thought you would know better.... but I guess NOT.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=23034

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So you got lucky and now you think that's the norm, fair enough.

Join date really means squat on this forum lol

wow, I can't belive the sheer amount of hating from people on this forum. yeah, I played a lot in the late 90's/early 2000's but up until this past weekend, I haven't played a single game nor kept up to date on any of the changes since around 2003. Does it really help by making fun of people who have a simple question to ask? no. why not just simply help to educate people rather than hating? What a warm welcome back.

lol no one would be "hating" on you if you took the time to get caught up on the current situation before posting your wrongly assumed ideas on self importation

All the responses were quite pleasant, if a bit curt, until you started insisting on your outdated understanding of importation norms. You asked a question and people answered. Very few people are willing to help someone who's not willing to help themselves (in this case, helping yourself would mean reading the FAQs and getting up to speed).

I linked the relevant thread in my last post. Perhaps if you read it before asking, your questions will be better received. Or, you know, don't. That would give me an entertaining read at work in the form of this thread.

no one's "hating" here. all these answer's are truth.

smuggling a gun across as parts is illegal, end of.

your just pissed cause your not getting the answer you want....

you know what, go ahead and try that, Let the CBSA, the RCMP, and the Canadian Court, give you the answer instead of us, I suggest you check ahead of time to see if you're allergic to Latex when they bust you for arm's trafficking

I wasn't insitsting on anything regarding importation, I was simply stating what I understood the importation laws to be and was asking for someone to help me get brought up to speed. At least now that I know that if someone asks something that people on this board deem to be common knowledge, it gives them free reign to be dicks.

Also, how do you know that someone who asks a question on these boards has not tried researching their question? My initial question was not regarding importation laws, it was if any retailers in Canada carried a certain product. I researched it as best I could, even emailing a couple retailers and still do not have a satisfactory answer. Thus me asking my question here.

Once people started mentioning the potential legality issues surrounding bringing a reciever into Canada I asked what the laws were (as it was an active thread) and stated what my understanding of them were so that someone could see where I am coming from and try to be helpful. I guess I just asked the wrong people.

LOL...welcome to the new Gen Y (or whatever) Internet....ain't it sweet?

Hit the classifieds (doubt you'll find it there)...and the retailers (there's a new retailers section). Browse all of them, you'll get a feel for who can get what.

Thanks for the advice. I have looked on the classifieds and came up with nothing. Did a search on the web of any retailers in Canada who carry Echo1 and also went onto the Echo1 site to see what retailers carry their product in Canada (they only had two listed and I contacted both). Came to a dead end and thought I would reach out to the community. It looks like I am SOL.

That being said, of the new companies that are selling their aeg's in Canada, whoich one's seem to have the best track record?

TM have the best track record as far as I'm concern, but you just open a new can of worms with that question. People are going to tell you to search on the forum for that

Echo 1 are not in Canada, maybe for good reasons I'm not sure. If it was such a good gun, I'm sure it will exist here in Canada.

I'd suggest contact someone in the AV section about special ordering the gun to Canada.

Thanks bud, i don't know why people get so uptight about asking for opinions on something.

first bit highlighted: At no point did you do this you question was where to get an E-1 Sr-25 and if not you'd bring it across yourself in piece. had you actually asked exactly what you wrote there we would have happily helped you with no problem at all, but then you started to argue with us even though you've stated you know nothing of the import law's post 2001.

second: We know because you still arguing, had you actually searched and read and understood, it's very easy to understand, it's very obvious and in black and white of what you CAN and CAN'T do, you wouldn't be arguing because you'd have an understanding and the thhread would have shifted to other method's as they usually do when people read up on the import law's it's very easy to find and understand.
You also just contradicted the first part of your statement there get what your trying to say straight,

third: all you did was ask what's wrong, then you went on about what you did in the past and got lucky not actually speeking of any law you knew of. When we told you what was wrong you got sand in your vagina about it.

there ARE sr-25's in the classifieds, I'm looking at one RIGHT now on a seperate tab, it's a much better brand than Echo 1 (in fact E-1 often takes their gun's and rebrands them with their name) and it's only $650 and comes with 5 mag's.

You keep saying you've been searching and researching but you fit the classic profile of someone who just want's to be spoonfed with the answer's they want to hear, we see it all the time


THERE IS IN FACT AN OFFICIAL ECHO 1 DEALER IN CANADA, I've been there and held the gun's.

Dude, holster your hostility. It really doesn't help the situation at all, it just eggs it on.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=91457

Quick search, found the following:

Echo 1 is a US dealer for Jing Gong product and is just a rebrand.
JG/ECHO1 Is the manufacturer they clone TM aeg's

Echo one is just a bunch of rebrand, so really you're just paying more money for the name. Just get a JG and call it a day, if you got more coin get a TM.

If you really want Echo 1 in Canada, Check out Capital Airsoft

Its stated right on their site >.<
http://echo1usa.com/English/index.ph...page=page&id=3

Capital Airsoft
10604 172 Street
Edmonton, AB Canada
capitalairsoft.ca

Direct link
http://www.albertaairsoft.com/store/

Tsquared, those rules are for the Newbie thread. This is in general.

And no, Echo1 is not a US dealer for JG.
Once upon a time, Echo1 got their guns produced by a manufacturer in china, which happened to also make the same guns for JG. This saved them from having to do the R&D to clone the guns, and instead just buy them from the manufacturer. As of late, Echo1 has their own R&D Department, and has designed many guns/clones without JG. They are a completely seperate corporate entitity and in direct competition with JG. They are not the same company.

After reading your posts koflach, the attitude displayed was pretty shitty for someone asking for advice, the information you need is out there, and demanding spoonfeeds is not something we enjoy doing for something thats already been asked a thousand times on the boards. Especially with that attitude.

If you had said that to me after asking for my help, I would have told you to fuck off. Internet or not, I dont tolerate that kinda attitude when spending my time to help someone else.

I have emailed albertaairsoft and they only carry parts for echo1, they do not carry the actual aeg's. Other than that, thanks for the info on echo1, i was not aware of it.

I see, well good luck in what you decide to do. No point continuing this thread.

Thanks :D

Yea man, echo 1 aint that great. (to my opinion)
Stick with TM, VFC, KWA and simply well known brands :)

Im sure you have other guns in mind!

you forgot G&P, CA, Inokatsu, etc etc.

And KWA is just as bad as Echo1, G&G, ICS, etc.

not hostile at all, you can't just make an argument with what you said there, had this been a different situation, say you were caught doing something illegal and you made a defense where you contradicted yourself, changed your story, made point's that aren't there and continue'd to argue I'd arrest you on the spot.

you can't make a horrible defence like that and not expect someone to punch hole's right through it, it's like if I told you a toyota corolla was a ferrari and you should buy it for $250 000, your gonna laugh because it's obviously blatently wrong don't think so low of us,

I wasn't talking about capital airsoft, listen to Darkangel and take what Thanth say's with a grain of salt, he too was gone for a very long time and only came back two week's ago unwilling to read or search for anything didn't want our advice, admited to being stubborn and constantly asked for spoon feed's and is still learning (btw congrats thanth you're post's are getting less painfull everyday!)

I'm not going to carry on further, the jury's in your unwilling to take any experienced advice from us so I'm not going to bother do what you want find out the hard way

Thanks for the info guys, good to know. When i last played it was basically TM and CA for aeg's. With all these new manufacturers (to me at least) it's hard to know who to go with. TM has always made a great product but reviews on the web only go so far, i prefer to hear what someone who has used it in the field multiple times has to say about a product.

On my opinion TM is good but completly out dated (and don't talk about these EBBR with wuss recoil).

You have the "cheap" that have the price of a cheap but mechbox has good as major brands.
I have a MP5 PDW from CYMA on my table for maintenance and spring swap, had a marui SD6 a few days ago, CYMA is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy above.
Weights like an MP5 (and believe it or not, an MP5 is NOT a light weight SMG, daddy G3 made sure of it), feels like an MP5, takes 9.6 out of the box, mechbox greased like it should be, reinforced everywhere. This one is going to last long.

All brands are not like that but some should seriously not be called "cheap".

The one I trust (even power mod might be necessary) :
CYMA
A&K
DBoys (not their AK though)

If your trying to promote Cyma, A&K and/or dboys (especially since even the americans dont want to touch it due to shitty Q/C and constant issues) over TM or CA then I just lost alot of respect for you.

Isn't this how it usually goes?

- New user/Older out of touch user comes on ASC and says he wants to do something stupid/illegal or asks where to get guns because he didn't read the FAQ's

- Less than kind people respond with information and ridicule them for not reading the FAQ

- User gets all butthurt about being told he's lazy for not doing the research

- Nicer people respond with softer words explaining things in words they can understand

- Noob turns to the nicer people and begs for a spoonfeeding

- Noob thanks the nicer people for spoonfeeding or understanding them and then makes a snarly comment about those that didn't

am I right?

Who you callin "less than kind?"

and what do you mean "You People".

*pulls out race card*

Pus,

You forgot the part where a newb becomes informed and then looks like a jackass flaming everyone right, left and center because they feel like they're the lynch pin in the ASC police force.

(I'm way past that point...I'm into the truthful sarcasm phase now)

Tys

truthful sarcasm eh, that's like level 9+ shit :D

shit ya, 2001 fist bump

I've never had a problem declaring to the guys at the border what I have and how much its worth, receipt and passport in hand (if you have it) and they just wave you through

Thanks for the tips.

*facepalm*

Do it... just do it.
Enough talk about it and just do it and get it over with. See what happens.

The border guards must really take you for a ride down east, eh? Dont need to be so uptight, theres realms of probability of things you can bring back, and some obvious items that you're gonna get your balls busted for.

Also, I'm not recommending this, for all intensive purposes you should avoid it, just be prepared to lose your stuff and be flagged for the next time you go over :P

i see a LOT, prolly too many, people who LOVE their ICS and their G&G....( i don't however)

whatever the case, they are still "known brands". More known than echo1 around here anways.

but yeah, i agree with CA.

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.........................................dude.

Are you fuckin' serious? No comment. "TM outdated"? "CYMA, waaayyyyyyyyy above"?

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Seriously? I was simply thanking him for making the post instead of being an asshole like some others have been.

There's an old Chinese proverb about an emperor who had an ear infection. He called in a doc and the doc said it was potentially life threatening and only some really disgusting medicine and possibly amputating the ear would save him. The emperor didn't like that answer so he had the doc beheaded. Then he called in a 2nd doc who said the same thing, so the emperor had him beheaded too. The 3rd doc, having heard about the first two docs, said the ear was perfectly fine and that having a green ear must be a sign of divine rule yadda yadda yadda. The emperor was very pleased and rewarded the 3rd doc greatly.

A week later, the emperor was found dead.

*munches on popcorn*

+ fucking 1.

If your not gonna listen, and decide to break the law then GTFO from this board.
We do not tolerate or condone smuggling on ASC.

I dont give a shit if your from 2001, or from 2010. Smuggling is still smuggling. If you want to smuggle and just happen not to get caught, then so be it, keep that shit to yourself. Do not encourage others to smuggle.

Koflach, do whatever the hell you want. Far be it for me to tell you what to smuggle in. Just keep in mind another douchebag from BC was JUST busted for smuggling metal bodies in, said the exact same BS as you two and thought they knew better.

As long as you are aware of the risks when it comes to attempting to cross into Canada with an airsoft gun or restricted part than that is all I hope for. All the information is available on both here and on the CBSA website should you require further details.

For the time being I believe this thread has served its purpose.