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JohnGol10 September 13th, 2010 18:08

Help with a loadout!
 
Okay, I'm seriously confused. My problem is I'm starting my second loadout and I'm having problems choosing what I want to do. To clear this up first of all, I'm looking to make a Marine inspired kit. I don't want "Ohhh who cares". I want your honest opinion on this. I will put my own judgement after everyone else's, so it will be something you guys said was better, and I will put my own work into it so it still something that "Fits me best".

The only two loadouts I'm interested in running are Marine grunt kits or MARSOC kits. These are the pictures that sway me in so many directions. LARGE PICS TO GET THE POINT THROUGH!

I'll start first with MARSOC:
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/IMG_1048.jpg

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/p.../gear037-1.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...s/persec01.jpg

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2...1b87dc063o.jpg

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8333/img8221dz3.jpg

And grunt kits:
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...89M-KIDS04.jpg

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/attachm...9&d=1228172514

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5...6m6539j058.jpg

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/184/dsc00124u.jpg

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...o/IMG_0209.jpg

PROS AND CONS
-Grunt
Pros:
-Unique nowadays
-Can be put together quite easily
-Don't need a sidearm
-M16's are unique nowadays
-I already have an LWH
-BAMF
Cons:
-Can still turn out quite expensive
-Huge assortment of plate carriers that I could use
-Can't transition to a different camo pattern because USMC infantry gear is strictly USMC infantry gear.

-MARSOC
Pros:
-Will give me my first taste of GBB's
-'High Speed'
-Does look a bit BA
-Can be used with different camo patterns without looking totally Marine.
Cons:
-Expensive. Really expensive.
-Never had any experience with GBB's.
-M4's are getting old.

^^THIS IS MY MAIN PROBLEM!!!^^

I don't know if you understand my problem, but from my point of view this is confusing the crap out of me.

HELP!

Oh, and thanks Vince and Yannos for such influencing pics. :)

Desmodus September 13th, 2010 19:38

I'd say go with a grunt load-out. EVERYONE and their grandma has some kind of MARSOC loadout.

JohnGol10 September 13th, 2010 19:53

I've posted this on 3 other forums and out of everyone that responded so far, you and another guy has said grunt.

I'm worried though, these are my pro's and cons:
-Grunt
Pros:
-Unique nowadays
-Can be put together quite easily
-Don't need a sidearm
-M16's are unique nowadays
-I already have an LWH
-BAMF
Cons:
-Can still turn out quite expensive
-Huge assortment of plate carriers that I could use
-Can't transition to a different camo pattern because USMC infantry gear is strictly USMC infantry gear.

-MARSOC
Pros:
-Will give me my first taste of GBB's
-'High Speed'
-Does look a bit BA
-Can be used with different camo patterns without looking totally Marine.
Cons:
-Expensive. Really expensive.
-Never had any experience with GBB's.
-M4's are getting old.

^^THIS IS MY MAIN PROBLEM!!!^^

JohnGol10 September 13th, 2010 20:35

Few more photos to fight for each sides case:
MARSOC:
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1493/dsc7336.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3489/dsc7340w.jpg

Grunts:
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/175...n?size=620x400
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/M...2EyLNOVKsl.jpg

IT'S SO CONFUSING!

Vince September 13th, 2010 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Con3jo (Post 1314584)
I'd say go with a grunt load-out. EVERYONE and their grandma has some kind of MARSOC loadout.

Yeah and everyone has it wrong as f*ck as well...

mine isn't MARSOC, but '06-ish MFR. The FROG is totally out of place but sooooooooooooooooooooo comfy!

MARSOC is part of SOCOM and is issued with SFLCS kit and not FSBE like FR/DRP/MEU-SOC/MRF

-Skeletor- September 13th, 2010 20:50

On that last set of pics you posted, I hope you don't think those guys are MARSOC.. they're airsofters.

And sorry, you won't be a BAMF just because you get a grunt look.

Honestly man, your making this into such a huge debate and drama, really you can't make a decision on your own? Need to be told what to do? Do what you want, not what people tell you to do.

FOX_111 September 13th, 2010 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince S (Post 1314653)
MARSOC is part of SOCOM and is issued with SFLCS kit and not FSBE like FR/DRP/MEU-SOC/MRF

No wonder everyone got it wrong with that much mumbo jumbo!
(o:

Vince September 13th, 2010 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOX_111 (Post 1314660)
No wonder everyone got it wrong with that much mumbo jumbo!
(o:

It's cool being a collector as well you know

JohnGol10 September 13th, 2010 21:28

I'll put it simple:

If I wanted MFR I want FSBE. All I got to say.

And I never got your opinions! :(

FOX_111 September 13th, 2010 21:28

I know, I wish I was. But at the same time, it's a good thing I'm not.
Or i'd be well geared, but living on peanut butter and soda cookies.

JohnGol10 September 13th, 2010 21:32

These guys are airsofters?

And the only reason I go back and forth, and make it all 'dramatic' is because I've been stuck trying to make a decision for about a year, and so far I've only narrowed it down to a Marine kit for something effective for my field and something that looks good. Now I'm stuck between these 2. The only real progress I've made was buying an LWH, a tan shemagh, and 2 EI frag pouches. And now I'm stuck wondering if I should trade my LWH for an MSA MICH.

Quote:

I will put my own judgement after everyone else's, so it will be something you guys said was better, and I will put my own work into it so it still something that "Fits me best".

JohnGol10 September 13th, 2010 21:58

Can we get this thread closed? I believe I can't change the fact that I'm stuck with an LWH for now.

-Skeletor- September 13th, 2010 22:10

No these guys are airsofters
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1493/dsc7336.jpg

Some of the first post pics are air softers too, and not just the pic of Vince and the hallway picture of some other dude.


Quote:

I will put my own judgement after everyone else's, so it will be something you guys said was better, and I will put my own work into it so it still something that "Fits me best".
And? Doesnt change that you've still made a couple threads asking people to say their piece on what gear you should buy(ie PC vs, MTV, etc) and now this asking what loadout you should do. Seems you need other people to make decisions for you, and if they dont you end up questioning your own like the LWH, etc.

JohnGol10 September 13th, 2010 23:20

I dunno, I'm honestly really confused. I guess I'm just going to have to go with what I want.

I don't know if what you said was meant to help me, but I see it that way.

So grunt it is...

SHaKaL September 13th, 2010 23:26

Yeah; why not grunt? I think its a good choice.

Everyone want to be snipersealspecoplrrpdeltarecon...

Whats wrong with being an ordinary grunt?

pugs144 September 13th, 2010 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Skeletor- (Post 1314752)

Buddy's gonna have to man up and start doing wrist curls if he's gonna tame that muzzle flip.

JohnGol10 September 13th, 2010 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHaKaL (Post 1314808)
Yeah; why not grunt? I think its a good choice.

Everyone want to be snipersealspecoplrrpdeltarecon...

Whats wrong with being an ordinary grunt?

Good way to put it.

FOX_111 September 14th, 2010 09:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugs144 (Post 1314814)
Buddy's gonna have to man up and start doing wrist curls if he's gonna tame that muzzle flip.

Or is he checking the ejection port for brass?
I hate posed shots of airsofters pretending to be doing something. It never look right.

pugs144 September 14th, 2010 10:43

It doesn't take that much of a cant to do a chamber check.

JohnGol10 September 14th, 2010 11:27

Lol.

I'm stuck between an IBA or SPC. :banghead:

pugs144 September 14th, 2010 11:40

:rolleyes:

bakercompany September 14th, 2010 12:06

Go grunt. Here's a vid from an outpost in the Afghan mountains a couple of years back:

LiveLeak.com - USA military Engage Al-Qaeda & Taliban Militants

Mix of LWHs and MICHs on these guys, all with the basic Eagle PCs w/cummerbund. You don't need to change your helmet, and PANTAC/FLYYE PCs w/pouches are all in the $130-150 range. Plus they're pretty ubiquitous pieces of kit, meaning they're not "exclusive" to one loadout. If you're agonizing over versatility (both in appearance and function), I think this is the way to go.

And as long as you look tired, dirty, and cranky above all else, you've pretty much nailed it ;).

JohnGol10 September 14th, 2010 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by bakercompany (Post 1315055)
If you're agonizing over versatility (both in appearance and function), I think this is the way to go.

Yeah, this was my main problem.


Quote:

Originally Posted by bakercompany (Post 1315055)
And as long as you look tired, dirty, and cranky above all else, you've pretty much nailed it ;).

Lol.

Another thing, that video was shaky as hell, they might be EPC's or SPC's.

bakercompany September 14th, 2010 13:37

I'm pretty sure it predates SPCs, but I could be wrong.

JohnGol10 September 14th, 2010 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugs144 (Post 1315038)
:rolleyes:

I know, right?
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/me...t_FACEPALM.jpg

lonesniper September 16th, 2010 15:42

I think you should just say fuck it, and go with a "tactical griller" loadout.
http://www.uberreview.com/2009/06/di...e-prepared.htm

JohnGol10 September 17th, 2010 19:53

Man that is the most random response ever.

MrEvolution September 18th, 2010 01:53

Go grunt.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._3671950_n.jpg

ASC's Voice of Reason
Desert Marpat + ALICE + M16. Simple.

JohnGol10 September 18th, 2010 19:34

Lol yeah.

Again I'm going grunt because I can complete the loadout pretty well. Down to the dog tags in the boots... (My Marine Cadet ones though, not real Marine ones.)

greenknightscaptain October 7th, 2010 21:55

go USAF PJ. lol completely off subject ;)

JohnGol10 October 8th, 2010 21:04

Lolz. PJ's for teh win. :D

greenknightscaptain October 8th, 2010 22:04

I'm planning on joining the USAF around April of next year and I plan on doing SERE(survival evasion resistance escape)...after I want to try out for Pararescue. I'll keep everyone updated ;)

JohnGol10 October 8th, 2010 22:07

Cool. Corps for me in four years...

greenknightscaptain October 8th, 2010 22:09

goodluck bro. My airsoft teammate is in Afghanistan currently. He's a Marine.

Vince October 8th, 2010 23:39

PJs eh?

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...pararescue.jpg

JohnGol10 October 9th, 2010 00:00

Nice one. :D

Can't reach the damn MARSOC/FR thread. Conker lagged it up with those damn hi-res pics.

greenknightscaptain October 9th, 2010 09:46

PJs are my fav. I love that they are active in peace and wartime. Those guys were saving people after our hurricane katrina disaster and the earthquake in haiti. I like that theyre spec ops but oriented towards life saving over life taking. I actually was able to make contact with wil willis (whiskey whiskey) the pj from special ops mission show. Truely a nice guy! Id say a pj is a rare loadout it looks badass and you have a wide variety of camouflage to choose from ;)

JohnGol10 October 9th, 2010 19:20

Dude, you actually met him? Holy shit!

greenknightscaptain October 10th, 2010 02:53

Haha no. Sorry for the confusion. I contacted him online about joing the usaf and later trying out as a pj and he wrote back with a really nice inspirational message. Cool dude.

MorbidReign October 10th, 2010 03:20

From what I've seen, a moustache is definately part of your load out too. If you're going authentic, grow that flavour-saver!!! lol

PokerFace October 11th, 2010 01:18

John, I say go for grunt too. USMC loadout is basically badass. Even better do like a USMC in Fallujah type load out (I forget what phase of OIF that was....).

US Navy is 7-ish years for me. Maybe I'll even go back to Mexico and sign up there for a short while, country calls these days.

JohnGol10 October 11th, 2010 12:05

A 'Fallujah Insurgency' (How I like to call it) would be difficult, I have to say. So many small things I need to mix. :(

Vince October 11th, 2010 12:36

Fallujah? Easiest kit to do.

A pair of cammies, LWH, WL/CB IBA and an USMC FLC in WL with mismatch SDS and ALICE pouches in the most rag tag way possible.

I still have mine

JohnGol10 October 11th, 2010 18:41

Hmm. I do have ALICE... it's just that I'd rather have a real woodland PB Interceptor if I ever got an IBA, and they're really hard to come by. What I love about grunt loadouts is the availability of gear. Since none of it is really special (Mostly personal bought) you can get the small things perfectly.


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