KSC MP7A1 Gas Blowback SMG ( SYSTEM 7 / Taiwan Version )
 

I've been looking for one since forever, then I came across this site that sells it for US$215.49. They said they will ship from Hong Kong, but isn't shipping it to Canada illegal?

There's also another site that ships from USA, does it make a difference?

This should answer all of your questions regarding importing airsoft.
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=40318

Fk, and I can't buy that gun in Canada either. At this point I'm willing to play Russian Roulette with my gun anyways...

and which site that said this?

said what?

And, maybe I could also tell the seller to up the FPS to over 407 and mark it as an airgun...

you said "they" whose they.... "They said they will ship from Hong Kong"

if you get age verified (it takes work but is worth it) there are a few for sale in the classifieds and retailer section on here, it's the only place you'll be able to get one in Canada there is no other way unfortunatly.

I'm only 17, I won't be 18 till December, at which point I would be spending my Christmas in Hong Kong. I would then most likely buy it directly from the seller, and put it in the luggage with me. (the article DID say bringing it with you yourself improves your chances of getting it through.

p.s. "They" are the sellers =/

Good plan to get your colon adjusted

we know "they" are the sellers but who? Give us the name of the seller (site or whoever) right now. because they are feeding you absolute bullshit.

an airsoft GUN will not make it through airport security, never. That'll get you arrested and possibly charged. then there will be a black mark on your name, everytime you fly they will pull you aside and search you, with a rubber glove. this isn't me telling you it's law. there is no other way around it.

since your going to be turning 18 soon here anyway your best bet is to organize a date after your birthday meet an Age verifier and get the mp7 from here, it'll be the same gun, and you won't risk being charged as an adult 3 days into your adulthood. that can fuck things up in your life.

Lol... in all seriousness, Ive been told by several sources that you can get it in Canada by simply telling the airport receptionist you have an airsoft, most of the time.

nope, never, not international flights anyway, domestic it can happen if your really good at charming security they'll let you take it in your stowed luggage.... maybe if they're in a really good mood, but never a gas operated gun.

but absolutly no airsoft guns on a plane from anywhere to canada, even planes in general it's a big deal they are guns no one wants that on a plane, it's like asking if you can take a bomb onboard with you to them

I'll take your word for it then, after all, December isn't that far away

Although I'll probably end up with 2 mp7s, one in Hong Kong, another in Canada. Good thing the accessories are legal to import, thus I can swap them around.

Btw, from the ASC thread:

"Also explain why you're bringing it in to add legitimacy to the item, as the inspector is less likely to give you a hard time about it. Explain airsoft is a sport and you're not bringing this stuff back just because you thought it was cool. Aside from narcotics, the CBSA's policy is no enforcement action will be taken against anyone who properly and truthfully declares their goods."

ya buy a bunch of mags for it and whatever's legal, that'll actually save you some money since you won't have to pay for shipping etc

Btw, can anybody check for me if someone is selling a KSC MP7A1 Taiwanese version in the Classified section? A simple yes or no would do =/

YES, and for a good price too :P

PS: all the Hong Kong airsoft retailers are on the "blacklist" of the CBSA, so most of the stuff that comes in Canada from them will be checked...

why are they on the blacklist?

For constantly importing airsoft guns, as they don't want any importations.

your f'king idiot kid. seriously if you don't plan to listen and be stubborn then don't post stupid questions here. Don't feed this fool some answers and if he wants to be stupid and not answer our questions back then you can go FUCK your face.

$450 is the price right now,
And kid, you can do that your self, while your at it why not just declare something else and get your self a criminal record? Would that help you learn?

Or you can just listen to us, and stuff trying to go around system. (FYI, 407fps rule is using 0.22g bb)

Woah there, didn't you read what I said? I said I'll wait till December to get age verified. And that kinda attitude is unnecessary.

scurvy is right, every importer is on the CBSA list. All I ordered was a Holo sight and CBSA opened the package and put the batteries in

Lol what the fuck is an airport receptionist? Do they take messages for pilots when they are flying?

/facepalm

This kid is going to get his parents or whoever he's with in deep shit.

you guys.

read the conversation between me and him, I don't think he's a problem, he just didn't know like all newbies, but we told him and he accepted like a champ.

his original plan was to get one in HK, (after he turned 18, he'll be 18 when he goes to HK for christmas, so he's actually waiting to be 18 to get a gun) and bring it over, not knowing the severity of how bad that is thats a normal mistake on newbie's part.

I told him how nasty that can get and not to do it, if he's gonna have to wait till he's 18 to get a gun he may aswell get AV'd and not risk jail. he said ok he'll do that then, and when he goes to HK he'll just get what he is allowed to bring back (sights, mags etc)

he took our knowledge and didn't show any attitude and now understands that trying to bring an airsoft gun across is bad for him. so whats the problem guys?

When he does go to HK he should bring some empty luggage and then just fill it up with all the good shit that he can bring back.

@Assault Pioneer: I hear what you are saying and sometimes this site does jump up the ass of newbies even when they take advise.

Happens everywhere, don't worry about it. You join a new game, ask a question, and people who have only played that game for 3 days laugh at you calling you a noob. It's the internet. =/

$450 without accessories is a bit expensive. A roughly $215 dollar gun with say... $85 handling and shipping, makes around $300. That makes $150 profit minus the fees of getting it through the CBSA. I'm still new to airsoft so don't quote me on this, but isn't he making 33-50% profit off the original price of the item?

nop, like me, (because I know him via this forum) he bought it around 500-575$ new....

We call that the ''Canadian markup'', basically, the ppl who can ''legally-ish'' import all airsoft guns, sell them for 2-3x the original price... :s....

Welcome to Airsoft IN Canada...lol

:banghead:

Check the link in my sig for a market breakdown.

thanks, info was useful. But My God, 220% markup for Canadian guns...

yeah...lol... but that list is from 2009, since then, prices on some guns have been lowered... and it depends on the persons/retailer that sells too... :P

But I would say that september is one of the best times of the year to buy airsoft guns, since most of us are going back to school... and need money for books.... :S

If you cant afford airsoft, then this is not for you. Play nerf guns you stupid kid. Why you always talking about profit? These retailers sell it that much, because its a risk still no matter what. You cannot buy guns outside the country, unless with permit or special licenses

shut the fuck up immediatly... you haven't even read the god damned thread, go back and read every post now. every one
I respect you but damn man your planting cookie cutter kidiot flame on someone who completely doesn't deserve it.

he didn't say he couldn't afford it, just expressing minor surprise at the inflation, like WE ALL DID when we saw canadian prices. he's not talking about profit at all. it is a huge jump ya, he know's why he read Surebet's market breakdown thread.

now stop this nonsense

Dude, just take it easy for a sec......

ummm I read it... you probably plan on selling guns to this idiot. This kid doesnt even wanna tell us, who the retailer that said all this crap. any misleading information could lead other people in trouble too. Use your head, now if this kid is not willing to cooperate and tell us which retail store could that said this. Then why the f'ck are you feeding this kid some answers??? If people wanna learn about airsoft then do their own research and if they want people to give them good answers, then better be honest with your answer and not try twist things around. Right from the beginning, this kid does not cooperate with answers and "what the heck is an airport receptionist?" USE YOUR HEAD assault, this kid is trying to do something stupid. When he gets busted, he'll get some questions and he'll say people from airsoftcanada.com told me this blah blah blah. Just dont even bother talking to his kid. He's already complaining about profit, when he should focus on following the rules

Holy shit...

He's not going to do anything stupid HE'S GOING TO WAIT TILL HE'S 18 AND GET AV'D THEN BUY IN CANADA!!!!

So fucking what you got sand in your vag because he didn't answer YOUR question and spoke to other people as the conversation moved forward, and whoopdi-fuckindoo he didn't get the official job title right for the person who checks your luggage.

We told him to buy in country and not try to bring one over and he listened! He's not going to be busted for anything. And no one here is telling him to do something that'll get him in trouble.

He was planning on buying an airsoft gun when he was 18 in the first god damn place, he was just missing a bit of information, he didn't know the specifics on importing airsoft is all and how enforced they were, he WAS NOT looking for a total spoonfeed. He read the importing airsoft thread and now know's, he also read the market breakdown thread and now know's. He's not trying anything, he was thinking about it, like most newbies do who don't have all the information yet, we told him no, and to read certain threads and that's what he did and now he isn't going to do that, he understands! he's being completely cooperative with our answer's do you not read fucking english?! it's all right there!

He listened to us, and has been doing his own research, and hasn't argue'd at all, he has done the complete opposite of what you are yelling at him for. He's doing exactly what you are expecting newbie's to do, reading things and getting information.

Don't bother replying I won't regard you anymore, it was my mistake for thinking you were a well put together individual with a brain capable of carrying a thought beyond basic emotion. In your post above you've proven this kid is a more well rounded individual than you. The kid asked a question, we gave him answers, he accepted and changed his game plan. But your still going on like a yeast infection your not going to waste anymore of my time I don't talk to plants...

Excuse me but where did you get this kind sir?

If my memory does not fail me, I don't believe I have said any retailer told me any "crap".

Again, no retail store said this. the ASC thread said "If you can afford to play Russian roulette with your money that’s your decision" and that's how I got the idea in the first place.

I don't recall any dishonest answers here. If you wish to refute this, please back your shit up.

Again, when did I explicitly refuse cooperation?

Like?

Busted for what? And I don't recall having anything against airsoftcanada.com or the people here to warrant smearing the site's good name

Unless you wish to prove me wrong.

I was mildly surprised at the price markup. I was in no way, shape, or form complaining.

I must've missed the rule that forbids asking questions about airsoft on this forum

P.S. I think the time is nigh for when a mod comes in here and closes the thread....

Im done talking to you... you can't even answer my first question. nuff said! "they" and dont post misleading things here about certain FPS that are allowed, because other new people could also read this and be misleading as you.

Then I guess we're done here.

/endthread

cjboi, your a real winner arn't you? haha....

Talk about rude. ASC should just flush all the turds.

Chayce, its cool to see your interested in learning and playing airsoft. Welcome aboard! :)
Assault Pioneer your a good guy, thanks for taking Chayce's back.

cjboi, chill man you making yourself look crazy, too much cussin in your posts bro :)


But seriously WTF is an airport receptionist?

the person who checks your luggage, looks at your passport and gives you your boarding tickets and re-assigns your seat from a good window one to the one right beside the washroom because she's a passive aggressive bitch...

Heheheh had some bad experiences at the check in counter eh, I find by being really organized and HAVING A PEN goes a long way, they hate it when you ask to borrow a pen from them, always works for me, talked my way into whole middle rows of seats all to myself on many a flight.

Lol for some reason I've gotten washroom seats 3 times in a row this past 2 years...

Thank you all for pointing Chayce in the right direction.

You may think that the prices in Canada for airsoft is very expensive but it is still very much in the grey zone when it comes to legality. It is still a very possiblity that a retailer may be prosecuted for the procession and retailing of black rifles. Several retailers have already gone through this in the past. You do not want to go through this.

Please be familiar with the ASC rules as I would not like to hand out infractions for breaking the rules.

Thread close as requested.