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aceface October 19th, 2010 22:27

Assault charges
 
Does anyone have any information regarding weapons assault charges with an air soft pistol. My son owns a spring loaded pistol (he is 18),, while he was at school and I at work a friend of his came over and decided to play around with his pistol. The friend accidently shot the mailman through the window. The mailman called the police the house was raided all the air soft guns were confiscated (3 pistols, and 1 rifle ) , the friend is in jail for assault with a weapon. Has anyone ever been charged with something similar,, and what are the chances they will lessen the offence charges?

Matt 'Maverick' Watts October 19th, 2010 22:32

Pointing a projectile weapon at a person can constitute assault with a weapon, even if it's not loaded.
Not knowing the age of the person, any prior criminal history, the location of the incident, the method in which the guns were stored, or any of the other details, there is absolutely zero point in commenting. Any case is affected by the details, and we don't have them (and personally, I don't want to know them).

ex October 19th, 2010 22:34

Guess your gonna learn a valuable lesson real soon..>Lock your shit up and dont let your kids associate with idiots...fuck.

aceface October 19th, 2010 22:39

All I was asking is if anyone has had a similar incident,, I'm not asking for answers to my senerio. I was hoping someone could relate to weapons assault charges.

mcguyver October 19th, 2010 22:46

Most guys on here aren't going to have experience with this.

The charges facing this person are serious, same charges would be levelled had it been an airsoft gun, a pellet gun or a real gun. He is looking at (best case scenario) some minor jail time, a huge fine and a criminal record. He may get lucky if it is a first offence and get lengthy probation and no jail, along with a fine and a record.

If the prosecutor is a barracuda, he is looking at perhaps up to a year in jail.

He shot the mailman, a civil servant in the performance of his duties. He is in deep shit, and has no choice but to throw himself at the mercy of the court and hope for the best.

Sbradshaw October 19th, 2010 22:47

in all honesty most of the active members on here arn't really dumb enough to end up in your situation.

now, if he is underage he aint going to jail. if its his first offence, he aint going to jail. if the court system is the same across the country, he aint going to jail. if you let him im your home again, you should kick yourself in the ass! like fuck it was an accident. ive told many o airsofters that were peeing behind there vehicles that it was an accident when i shot them in the ass, its always an accident when you get caught. take care of your shit.

burningashes October 19th, 2010 23:02

Your son's friend is going to face criminal charges. Also, im curious as to why you are concerned if your son's friend will face charges. Let his family deal with their mess of a son. Perhaps youre not being entirely truthful. Im just guessing here.

Note: Also, how could both of you be not home and his friend coming to visit and staying for a fun game of airsoft.

DarkAngel October 19th, 2010 23:02

Any airsoft guns used in a criminal manner (criminal offence) are treated as real firearms.

I think your son's friend just dug a big hole for himself and poured a big pile of shit on himself.

If the airsoft gun is a replica of prohibited firearms (such as AK's and full Auto Armalites etc) he will be charged with additional real firearm offences.
Hes a dumbass and is old enough to have known better.

He wont get any sympathy from me. Ive warned countless parents and kids about this and got nothing but mouth and "w/e we can handle our kids".

SHaKaL October 19th, 2010 23:05

I'm asking myself; what are the chance that the one being accused here is the op... or the op friend ? :rolleyes:

redzaku October 19th, 2010 23:05

first of all who opened the door for him? both you and your son is at different location, so how did he get in?
and you reap what you sow,
that is why airsoft demands 18+ to play, its like giving a terrorist the keys to a nuclear bomb
you must be responsible for your actions

Brian McIlmoyle October 19th, 2010 23:07

Stop wasting your time here ... lawyers are needed, Sadly

ShelledPants October 19th, 2010 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by aceface (Post 1335442)
The friend accidently shot the mailman through the window.

Hope that holds up in court. :\

HKGhost October 19th, 2010 23:11

if the OP statement is true, wouldn't only the friend would be in shit and not the OP and his son? I mean if the friend is over 18 and he basically broke in and used a firearm with the owner not around, why would the owner be in trouble? The son might be in shit for having the guns not locked up but other than that, why else would he be in trouble?

Matt 'Maverick' Watts October 19th, 2010 23:41

A thought just hit me... Mailman = Canada Post, which is a federally regulated entity.. that makes this a federal crime. Ouch.

mcguyver October 19th, 2010 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 'Maverick' Watts (Post 1335490)
A thought just hit me... Mailman = Canada Post, which is a federally regulated entity.. that makes this a federal crime. Ouch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguyver (Post 1335450)
He shot the mailman, a civil servant in the performance of his duties. He is in deep shit, and has no choice but to throw himself at the mercy of the court and hope for the best.

Deep shit is right.

pusangani October 19th, 2010 23:46

Where are you that your windows are open? it's pretty cool here in Toronto

and yeah I love these "this guy I know, not me" scenarios

call a lawyer, don't come to a board full of responsible airsoft owners, we can neither relate nor advise you legally.

Danke October 20th, 2010 00:40

Shouldn't this so called friend also be charged with B&E also?

Matt 'Maverick' Watts October 20th, 2010 00:47

B&E or at the very least trespassing..

Aquamarine October 20th, 2010 03:18

How do you 'accidentally' shoot through the window?
Just curious about that as it sounds pretty... odd.

Penguin October 20th, 2010 03:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquamarine (Post 1335543)
How do you 'accidentally' shoot through the window?
Just curious about that as it sounds pretty... odd.

Everything about it is odd, he might as well have put everything in quotes. My "sons friend" "accidentally" "shot the mailman" through the window. At least that way we'd know he was full of shit.

L473ncy October 20th, 2010 03:41

There was a similar incident I think around 2 years back (sometime in 07/08?). There's a lot of stuff on it, I think it happened in Alberta some of the guys in Calgary or Edmonton might know some stuff about it.

The TL;DR version is, you're screwed and you can expect at minimum a criminal record and a long probation, worse case a year or two in jail depending on how harsh the crown wants to prosecute and previous history (ie. straight a student or bad ass kid who cuts class all the time and is well known to police).

Castle October 20th, 2010 04:08

News article or it didn't happen.

Blackthorne October 20th, 2010 05:22

Someone lock this shit please?

Seriously. Two things you (should) never ask for on a goddamn DBoard:

Medical opinions and legal opinions.

If you are the 18 year in question (as i think we all suspect) get a brain and hire a lawyer, or figure out who your provided council is and get talking to them.

If you actually an adult, just smarten up.

general strike October 20th, 2010 05:29

honestly, anytime you hit any one with anything its assult, and your sons friend or you or your son are all going to feel the effects of any assult charge that relates to using a non deadly weapon on a person which could result in somethin fairly serious. Although consitering that I have been in similar instances before I had matured a little, this is canada and unless you permenantly fuck someone up, the most you will get is community service and probation. something you must remember though is that you (or your son or his friend) are the reason that airsoft is not so accepted by all authorities.
If it is you and not some kid who dosent know better with some see through k mark gun that some homeless guy got for him... fuck you this is the reason I cant get a cheap gun from the rest of the world where people are more responsible...
peace
-Nathan

TokyoSeven October 20th, 2010 05:50

While mass opinion of a small group of individuals of a web forum may seem helpful, in the long run it will not benefit you.

Professional legal help should be sought as soon as possible.


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