Need suggestions on 1911
 

I was looking for a decent 1911 to buy. However, there are so many brands out there. Such as KWA,KJW, TM,etc. Can your pros provide me with some useful suggestions?

TM is a great buy. The gun shoots amazingly far, accurate and hard. The few that I've used were amazing. I think you should upgrade to a full metal kit. If you run propane in a stock TM 1911, it will wear the slide away over time.

Only real con i have with the 1911 is the low gas capacity in the mags and (this is just TM in general) you have to remove the slide to adjust the hop-up.

Other than that, they are great guns.

I run a KJW 1911 MEU and it great! It includes a metal slide and barrel so there is no need for slide upgrades off the bat.

If you want proper trades go with a TM, otherwise you will sacrifice that for the KJW 1911.


Simple google search will show you which one is more beneficial

In that case, any recommendation on websites where i can get one?

Where are you located?

Fill in your info, Get AV'd and check out the classifieds on http://www.airsoftcanada.com/forumdisplay.php?f=8


Most sites will not sell to someone under 18.

I live in Vancouver,BC.

Okay, and btw I'm 21 already.

you have to get age verified. Once you do, you can purchase it from a retailer from this site.

Best of luck!

And you can get those for much better prices when AV'd.

lol, there are only two people that verifies lower mainland's...anyways, I already contacted them.Im waiting for a response now.

It goes faster when you pay the coffee too. :P

I like my KWA 1911a1, easy access to the hopup adjustment, and i get 2 to 2.5 mag full of shots per gas fill.

I've owned the KJW 1911MEU, it broke down within a season, high lemon rate.

TM is awesome as well. Never owned one, but I have gamed one. With the right upgrades and tweaks you can get a very accurate pistol. Wether you go MEU government or one of the others you shouldent be disapointed.

I'm really interested in the KWA/KSC 1911.... parts should be interchangeable between both of them right?

Becasue I want the KSC 1911, but I also want the trigger, hammer and ambi-safety levers from the KWA one...lol

Just a thought, maybe buy the KWA one and upgrade the frame/slide? then you'd have all those interal you want on your 1911?

There is almost no aftermarket support for the KWA/KSC 1911's.

However there are tons of parts available for the TM/KJW 1911's.

yup, that I know, but it's System7..... nothing beats that.... :P

Currently , I am still waiting to be AV'd. Meanwhile, I did some research over TM's 1911. There are two models available,
M.E.U.
http://www.tokyo-marui.co.jp/cgi-bin...s/gas024_l.jpg
or
colt government 1911a1
http://www.tokyo-marui.co.jp/cgi-bin...s/gas018_l.jpg.
Since both guns have excellent stats, I am not very sure which one should I go for it. I heard both of them are made of mostly ABS plastic which I am not very impressed with. Should I just buy them first and upgrade them later? or should I pick some other brand's 1911 which have more metal parts on them?Thanks.

TM's don't need metal slide, etc. They work great.
If you do want a full metal 1911, then get a TM and upgrade it, or get a KJW.

Still waiting to get AV'd...

you say you're not impressed by the plastic, but have you ever even touched this gun? TM pistols are excellent quality out of the box, and are superb in their function. The plastic isn't heavy weight, but does have a decent weight to them.

If you're heavily into customizing your future 1911, TM is the way to go. if you don't care and just want something to play with, you can go with another company that makes a full metal pistol. I guarantee the TM will outperform any other make.

Thanks for the recommendation. I haven't had a chance to touch this gun yet. I personality have no problem with plastic, but the plastic exterior just gives me a cheap feel. Maybe I am wrong, I might even change my mind after I got it.

TM's are probably the best gas pistols around.

I wanna get AV'd so bad....

wow,looks badass. Do you own those?

No. That's the new Inokatsu CO2 steel 1911 in development.

Where can you buy a tm 1911 in cananda?

theres a really good website for it www.airsoftcanada.com

You just have to read over some of their FAQ's to find out

Maybe I should wait for that one to come out...That slider seems like made of metal.:p

Steel. Estimated overseas cost ~$500 USD.

If you want metal, get a KJ. Cheap and they can use CO2 mags.

It'll cost you an arm and a leg, no doubt about that. its not even guaranteed to be great, considering it's inokatsu's first pistol. that i know of. But inokatsu tend to make good things, so here's hoping it lives up to the hype.

Between the KJ's MEU and TM's MEU, which gun performs better over time?

><, I though all the Japanese companies makes decent merchandise.

TM.

"Which preforms better over time" is always gonna be TM.

In that case, I'll get the TM and upgrade it ...

inokatsu is actually a taiwanese company

Seems pretty nice actually, let's wait until we get to know the price... Wichita ain't cheap though.

Oh, thanks Diaviet. Super helpful website with lots of great info. Never would have found that one.

where's my coffee? lol

TM makes awesome 1911s. Minimal maintainance, maximum performance. Parts are super easy to come by, and you won't believe the quality of the TM plastic. 90% of people who held my pistol thought it was metal.

Well that settles it. I was really going to go for a KWA but it looks like a TM would be better quality.

lol... it's funny, when Kampfer did my AV I offered to buy him coffee and doughnut from Tim Hortons but he refused.

Anyways, OP if you want my opinion, get the TM if you're thinking of using it a lot otherwise something like a KSC/KWA or KJW will be fine. I'm rocking a KSC Glock 19 and couldn't be happier with it. I got it for a great price and it just works. I don't expect great performance from it but really it's just a "toy" to me since it takes up space as a backup.

EDIT: Also I'm a poor student, if I had the money I'd definitely get my hands on a TM and have it as a backup pistol but I can't justify the "price premium" on one especially since it's "just a backup" in my eyes and based on my feelings the KSC/KWA and KJW will do their job adequately for the right price. It's just like hiring a contractor. You could go with Company A, B or C. A is "the best" (TM or WA) but you also have to pay a price premium for them and do sometimes screw up because everyone is human right? (lets say 99.99% success rate with no screwups (ie. screwup only once ever 10,000 jobs)), Company B is good (KSC/KWA, KJW etc.), sometimes might screw up (99.9% success rate, screwups are maybe once every 1,000 jobs) but does their job at a fair price. Company C on the last hand is the cheapest of the cheap (I guess "Army" and clones and the like) and might screw up 2 times every 100 jobs (98% success rate). It's all about picking the right company for the job. If this is the house you're going to live in then yeah it's in your best interest to get the best, but if it's a secondary summer home then maybe in the interest of saving a could thousand dollars you go with Company B. If you're poor as shit then you shouldn't be renovating your house or getting a summer home but if you decide you need it but don't want to spend a lot of money on it and it's a "throwaway" summer cottage to you then go with company C.

I see your point Latency, but why not spend a little more and get a lot more reliability? I think the OP is looking for a pistol for gaming. Pistols (or any GBB gun) that are used weekly will eventually need replacement parts, and TM is definitely the easiest to get parts for. I actually have a KSC Glock 23 that broke, and I can't get the part anywhere. Simply for this reason I recommend TM. WA would also be a good choice, but mags cost alot, and WA I found isn't very noob friendly. I also found that TM has awesome QC control, which means a much lower chance of getting a lemon. WE and KJW have a pretty high lemon rate.

I agree with Boris.

I have a KWA M1911, it isn't the best gun for some reason the slide will always catch and it get very annoying to keep releasing it evey time you shoot it. And the mag release button is very sensitive and ive droped the mag a few times now. So I do not reccomend the KWA version. Although, KWA makes a very nice USP.45.

I actually see where you're coming from too. Trust me if I could fit myself with Arc'teryx, MSR, OR, Breithaupt, and that kind of gear I would, but in terms of economy it might be wise to get slightly lower quality but for cheaper.

As for replacement parts, officially KWA does not offer support to KSC pistols however the parts should fit and you should be able to buy the parts needed off the KWA website. That said I have not used them yet, as well they're also the same OEM parts that broke in the first place so they're not upgrades, rather they're just replacement parts.

PS: Does anyone know if the KWA "Specwar" NS2 (Mk.23) slide catch will fit in a KSC Mk.23 "Old Version" (pre-2005)? I kind of need one since it got lost.

+1

My TM Hicapa is pretty much all plastic except the frame, but it's really hard to tell, even when touching it.

Plus, it makes a beautiful sound each time it's fired.

Personally, I'm pretty good at fixing AEGs, but I know little about how to fix gas pistols. For that reason, having a reliable secondary that I don't have to worry about breaking is a big plus for me. We've all been in situations where your secondary saved your ass...
I'm not super concerned with rigs or other gear, I go for simplicity and functionality... I'm also a cheapass. Russians don't usually care about gear. Gimme a hoodie, camo pants, and a pair of adidas and I'm good to go.

LOL

Buy quality, or buy twice. My TM 1911 is 4 years old roughly, still completely stock, and still running like a champ, and I do game it alot as my primary sidearm. Ive run it on nothing but propane and .28's, and I havnt had to replace a SINGLE peice yet...

That should be sufficient enough to tell you which route to go.

Yup, Renegade makes an excellent point. My TM 1911 as well was 2 years old, but I gamed it every week, probably lubed it 10 times in those 2 years, dropped it down a flight of stairs, had it shot by an aeg at the middle of the plastic slide at 350fps, it was stock and nothing ever broke. I'd like to see another brand of 1911 take that kind of abuse

I have a liking for KSC pistols, but in the care of the 1911, I would probably go TM just because of the availability of aftermarket parts. You may find the odd part for other brands, but nothing that comes close to TM.

Although if you're willing to do some light upgrades, KJW 1911 are TM compatible, and that starts you off with a metal frame and slide (metal frame being the hard to get part). You can always upgrade with a high quality aluminum slide and other TM compatible aftermarket parts down the road. But if you want something that will work out of the box with no tomfoolery required, chances are that TM is your best bet.

Just as a side note, I'd personally go Hi-Capa instead. Those TM mags have real crap gas capacity.

Crunchmaster is correct. 1911s don't hold alot of gas in the mag. The mag holds 21, and I usually had 1 or 2 bb's left after the mag ran out of gas. That being said, if you load it realcap (7 rounds) you will have excellent results. I switched to a hi-capa platform because I liked the 1911 look, but not the gas capacity. The hi-capa holds more than enough gas to fire a whole mag. Once again TM makes awesome hi capas, which are the standard for most people who customize hi-capas. KJW also stepped up their hi-capas as they are TM clones, and even accept TM Hi-Capa mags.

Omg, my post is still active.lol I am getting the TM night warrior.

Good man. Post up a review when you get it.

Lol, I'll try my best to do that.

I am getting my night warrior tomorrow!

congrats, you're going to have fun with it