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T@NK October 28th, 2010 10:52

VFC gbbr MP5
 
I assume nobody has start a thread for this, so here we go, VFC GBB MP5
http://www.facebook.com/video/video....=1427413295581

Conker October 28th, 2010 11:02

Looks more like a gaz vibrator than a gaz blowback to me. But I guess to each their own :P

mstefak October 28th, 2010 11:07

I LIKE ! Im sure there will be a hard kick upgrade to come out. The harder the thing recoils the more parts it breaks ... maybe this gas gun wont break haha.

Kid October 28th, 2010 12:32

Would be fun for CQB.

They should make drum mags.

grantmac October 28th, 2010 12:32

Everything in perspective, the real thing doesn't recoil much compared to a carbine.

Eien October 28th, 2010 12:54

Looks good so far. Hope they come out with other variant of MP5s.

KoolAidMan October 28th, 2010 15:01

smaller bolt smaller recoil smaller mag so i would say it's comparable to an SMG's recoil vs a rifle i don't see why you'd complain the recoil seems fine

Zaphod October 30th, 2010 04:34

Going off their gbb m4 this should be good. Hopefully they wont be too expensive

The Lettonian October 30th, 2010 05:19

Is it just me or was the bolt not locking open at the end of each mag? That IS supposed to happen, right? At least on an RS model?

kullwarrior October 30th, 2010 05:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by FNG_13 (Post 1340983)
Is it just me or was the bolt not locking open at the end of each mag? That IS supposed to happen, right? At least on an RS model?

Except MP5/10, MP5/40, and G41 the G3 family (including MP5) does not have bolt catch.

DarkAngel October 30th, 2010 10:47

I want.

grantmac October 30th, 2010 11:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by FNG_13 (Post 1340983)
Is it just me or was the bolt not locking open at the end of each mag? That IS supposed to happen, right? At least on an RS model?

Not on RS. Thats part of the reason the MP5 is an ergonomic train wreck, mag changes are extremely clumsy.
They are a brilliant weapon if you keep them topped-up or never have to change mags though.

-Grant

AngelusNex October 30th, 2010 11:07

One thing I never liked about the MP5 when it comes to GBBs, how they going to stop it when its out of bbs? cause with that little recoil and if there is no cease firing when out of bbs then I'd just stick with an aeg MP5 even some sortof internal bolt lock that can only be disengaged by the charging handle.

grantmac October 30th, 2010 11:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelusNex (Post 1341085)
One thing I never liked about the MP5 when it comes to GBBs, how they going to stop it when its out of bbs? cause with that little recoil and if there is no cease firing when out of bbs then I'd just stick with an aeg MP5

Some sort of last round firing pin block? Just like they should have engineered on the AK.
That would make the operation completely realistic, bolt stops forward and hammer drops on "empty" chamber.

AngelusNex October 30th, 2010 11:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by grantmac (Post 1341089)
Some sort of last round firing pin block? Just like they should have engineered on the AK.
That would make the operation completely realistic, bolt stops forward and hammer drops on "empty" chamber.

Yes, forgot about the AKs, same problem. I refuse to buy a GBBr without some sort of firing stop. would love a GBBR AK though.

Kid October 30th, 2010 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelusNex (Post 1341104)
Yes, forgot about the AKs, same problem. I refuse to buy a GBBr without some sort of firing stop. would love a GBBR AK though.

Same here.

The Lettonian October 30th, 2010 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by grantmac (Post 1341083)
Not on RS. Thats part of the reason the MP5 is an ergonomic train wreck, mag changes are extremely clumsy.
They are a brilliant weapon if you keep them topped-up or never have to change mags though.

-Grant

Noted. Thanks for the info!

Danke February 7th, 2011 11:38

Some new pictures and some film.

http://www.wretch.cc/blog/shinpaimodel/32600712

YouTube - VFC MP5 & G36C GBB !!

RacingManiac February 7th, 2011 11:41

WANT...

Damn...between the new AKs and the MP5s it might be a costly year...and last year already cost a lot of money...

Danke February 7th, 2011 11:44

There are some so far un-discussed GBBRs coming from VFC also. You're a M-4 fan so it's going to be very costly for you.

Padkiller February 7th, 2011 11:51

I want one, but now, there's an inner debate in me, a choice between VFC's MP5 or G36 argh !

Pinard February 7th, 2011 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Padkiller (Post 1404096)
I want one, but now, there's an inner debate in me, a choice between VFC's MP5 or G36 argh !

I've got the solution:

Buy both

yeah I know...

Padkiller February 7th, 2011 12:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Contractor 6-8 (Post 1404102)
I've got the solution:

Buy both

yeah I know...

But then, I'll be poor.........................Alright, I'll buy both !!!

RacingManiac February 7th, 2011 12:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke (Post 1404087)
There are some so far un-discussed GBBRs coming from VFC also. You're a M-4 fan so it's going to be very costly for you.

I doubt I'll be buying more M4...having 2.5 is enough...lol

Although 7.62 AR type GBBR will be very interesting...

Padkiller February 7th, 2011 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingManiac (Post 1404123)
I doubt I'll be buying more M4...having 2.5 is enough...lol

Although 7.62 AR type GBBR will be very interesting...

Yes, but GBBRs will be comin out more, gas being the "new" airsoft !

Danke February 7th, 2011 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingManiac (Post 1404123)
I doubt I'll be buying more M4...having 2.5 is enough...lol

Although 7.62 AR type GBBR will be very interesting...

Like any of us can just stop.

I too have noticed an empty spot that something like a SR-25 would fill. A gas one would be outstanding!

MilanWG February 7th, 2011 13:34

KAC and WETTI have something up their sleeve...

Just cross your fingers its a 7.62 type platform.

RacingManiac February 7th, 2011 14:23

Who said anything about stopping, I am still spending money on the 2.5 I have lol....now its WOC, soon it won't be...lol

Ballcancer February 7th, 2011 16:22

i dont like that the MP5 has no form of bolt stop/lock as in what angelusnex was talking about .. really makes it quite useless IMO.

Danke February 7th, 2011 16:30

As it's been said the real ones have no bolt hold open.

You learn to count your shots, swap mags when you can, and since the tone of report changes when you go dry eventually you'll notice nothing is coming out the pointy end.

Brian McIlmoyle February 7th, 2011 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ballcancer (Post 1404281)
i dont like that the MP5 has no form of bolt stop/lock as in what angelusnex was talking about .. really makes it quite useless IMO.

useless... you mean like every AEG out there...

disappointing yes... useless well I donno

kullwarrior February 7th, 2011 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1404290)
useless... you mean like every AEG out there...

disappointing yes... useless well I donno

Well if you don't make it stop for dry firing it pretty much ruin the GBBR system. (The other part of GBBR is kick, which it barely has any)

RacingManiac February 7th, 2011 16:36

Can't see the vid here, does it not stop the gun from shooting when its out? I think the new KWA and GHK AK has the function to stop the gun from shooting(but not holding the bolt open) when its out of BB...I think it stops the bolt from returning fully to battery and maybe not resetting the sear...

Ballcancer February 7th, 2011 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 1404291)
Well if you don't make it stop for dry firing it pretty much ruin the GBBR system. (The other part of GBBR is kick, which it barely has any)

Thank you. I know that the RS has no bolt lock the bolt just stays forward when empty. What is being suggested is a system that prevents dry firing after the last shot is made. I also agree with with Kullwarrior that the sole reason for GBBR is to be as realistic as possible in terms of function. With a GBBR that does not do the above we are just going back to the old escort system minus the hose, so to speak.

Ballcancer February 7th, 2011 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1404290)
useless... you mean like every AEG out there...

disappointing yes... useless well I donno

The only time I use an AEG is in the winter.. for obvious reasons... or for a back up if all my gas guns are down... as soon as ideal conditions return I switch over to gas, but yes brian you are right very disapointing.

Pinard February 7th, 2011 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Padkiller (Post 1404104)
But then, I'll be poor.........................Alright, I'll buy both !!!

hehe ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke (Post 1404288)
As it's been said the real ones have no bolt hold open.

You learn to count your shots, swap mags when you can, and since the tone of report changes when you go dry eventually you'll notice nothing is coming out the pointy end.

well at least the RS stops firing when empty...with that gbbr you just keep dry firing

Nocturnal March 9th, 2011 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by TALIBANMILAN (Post 1404158)
KAC and WETTI have something up their sleeve...

Just cross your fingers its a 7.62 type platform.

KAC M110 SASS? =] that puts a smile on my face if that is the next WE GBBr with open bolt!


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