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Donster November 1st, 2010 11:50

10 Round M14 Mags
 
Hey guys,

I was just wondering if any of you know a place that sells, or how to mod a TM M14 mag (which replicate the 20 round mags) to look like a 10 round mag?

I want a lower profile mag as i think im going to go the sniper route with my TM M14.

Your thoughts?

Thanks to all who post,

D

L473ncy November 1st, 2010 12:25

I'm pretty sure you can just cut them open, shorten them and put them back together.

I was looking for "short AK" mags for a project and stumbled upon a page where the guy actually cut the mag open, lined up everything and glued it back together. I'll try to find the page if I can (sadly I didn't bookmark it).

coach November 1st, 2010 12:30

you can stuff 10 BB's below the follower and spring to occupy the space and then shorten the spring.

what's the mag look like? with m4 plastic mags it's easy to do.

Donster November 1st, 2010 12:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1341922)
you can stuff 10 BB's below the follower and spring to occupy the space and then shorten the spring.

what's the mag look like? with m4 plastic mags it's easy to do.

im not quite sure what you mean. I currently have the standard 20 round style TM M14 mags, and i want to know if i can shorten them to replicate the 10 rounders.

Kid November 1st, 2010 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1341922)
you can stuff 10 BB's below the follower and spring to occupy the space and then shorten the spring.

what's the mag look like? with m4 plastic mags it's easy to do.

He's not trying to reduce the capacity to 10 rounds, he's trying to reduce the mag size so that it looks like a 10 round mag.

R.I.T.Z November 1st, 2010 12:40

http://spinstage.http.internapcdn.ne...00002423_1.jpg
trying to go from the mag on the RIGHT
to the mag on the left

asking for mod help.

pry the two halves of a broken/shitty m14 mag and look at the internals and the spring guide. then chop, align, glue, and test to see if it works/fits

Donster November 1st, 2010 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid (Post 1341927)
He's not trying to reduce the capacity to 10 rounds, he's trying to reduce the mag size so that it looks like a 10 round mag.

exactly! :)

DarkAngel November 1st, 2010 16:36

No existing product in the current market.

Modifications in the sense of cutting, re-aligning is not possible due to the curved s shape feed path.

Unless you design a new interior for the mag. Your SOL.

manchovie November 1st, 2010 16:39

someone on arnies managed to do it.

coach November 1st, 2010 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donster (Post 1341923)
im not quite sure what you mean. I currently have the standard 20 round style TM M14 mags, and i want to know if i can shorten them to replicate the 10 rounders.

My mistake Mike. I totally read your post wrong.

Donster November 2nd, 2010 08:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1342008)
My mistake Mike. I totally read your post wrong.

No worries :)

Grudge November 2nd, 2010 10:08

The section you need to remove is in the middle. You need to retain the top and bottom, these have the curved sections. If you are handy with a dremel and glue you can do it. Just make sure you have the fees path perfectly alligned or you will have feed issues. Steel outer cases with plastic internals are the easiest to mod.

DarkAngel November 2nd, 2010 10:50

Again, due to the nature of the S shape feed path, cutting down the middle will not help you.

You would need to make your own feedpath for the center path.

Kos-Mos November 2nd, 2010 12:18

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Originally Posted by DarkAngel (Post 1342310)
Again, due to the nature of the S shape feed path, cutting down the middle will not help you.

You would need to make your own feedpath for the center path.

That would not be that hard with a dremel and some styrene pieces from a LHS. People build complete trucks out of scrap plastic... making a straight ramp can't be that hard...

DarkAngel November 2nd, 2010 15:15

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Originally Posted by Kos-Mos (Post 1342348)
That would not be that hard with a dremel and some styrene pieces from a LHS. People build complete trucks out of scrap plastic... making a straight ramp can't be that hard...

Except for the fact that BB's could get jammed from any uneven surface inside the magazine.

They already jam up in manufactured mags with smooth surfaces, due to slight differences in width between the mag and follower, adding rough or uneven surfaces just multiplies the chances.

Its one thing to say "It cant be that hard" and another to actually do it.

Daiviet November 2nd, 2010 15:58

"it can't be that hard"

lol.

In all seriousness, I don't think its difficult at all to make one.


Making several on the other hand.......

Kos-Mos November 2nd, 2010 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkAngel (Post 1342406)
Except for the fact that BB's could get jammed from any uneven surface inside the magazine.

They already jam up in manufactured mags with smooth surfaces, due to slight differences in width between the mag and follower, adding rough or uneven surfaces just multiplies the chances.

Its one thing to say "It cant be that hard" and another to actually do it.

Send me one, I will do it.

DarkAngel November 3rd, 2010 00:59

Talk to donster, after all hes the one who wants the mod.

Id definately be impressed if you can get a reliable mag working.
Theres already enough problems with AEG's, last thing id need is an unreliable mag that jams.

Guardian November 5th, 2010 18:36

I have cut down a few and the lower profile is cool. I found cutting out the middle section is best but does present the problem DarkAngel described because the mag internals are an odd shape. Basically an inverse "S" shape with a straight channel at the front and rear of the mag. Once you cut it down you can easily convert it to just a "U" shape which holds plenty of BBs.

DarkAngel November 5th, 2010 19:25

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Originally Posted by Guardian (Post 1344769)
Once you cut it down you can easily convert it to just a "U" shape which holds plenty of BBs.

Actually, thats a great idea. Making a U shape would definately make it alot easier.

canind09 November 6th, 2010 11:57

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Originally Posted by Donster (Post 1341911)
...to mod a TM M14 mag (which replicate the 20 round mags) to look like a 10 round mag?..

Actually this will be my project for this winter too...

I have never mod a mag before but will see how it turns out. I am thinking to hold the bbs from 8 or 16 rds. So the height of the mag will be a little shorter than the original size for 10rds.

I don't even know what to call once I finished the mag for the socom m14. Any thought guys?

Guardian November 7th, 2010 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkAngel (Post 1344798)
Actually, thats a great idea. Making a U shape would definately make it alot easier.

One thing while I think of it - The original mags I converted had a port on the bottom of the mag at the rear to install the spring. I made a new port at the top rear to accomodate the "U" internals. I don't think you need to do that if you are using single stack lowcap because the spring is slim enough to install through the feed port...
I gave up on getting the double stack mags to run and converted them to single stack which now feed reliably. Had to reduce the width of the interior channel and use a spring from an broken lowcap. Would be a lot easier if you could just buy short M14 mags. Maybe someone makes them now?

DarkAngel November 7th, 2010 11:34

Unfortunately, noone makes them.

I agree on the double stack point though, double stack mags tend to have feeding issues very commonly, slight imperfections cause rounds to get jammed inside the mag.

Single stacks make feeding ALOT more reliable.


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