Cybergun/Cyma M1A1
 

How do you differentiate the plastic gears crap from the loved metal gears, FMU Thompson?

I've been emailing a few retailers and some people in the Classifieds, but most are using either stock pictures (Which doesn't show the 6mm Tradermarks, etc.), or only the box without any indication of the brand.

One retailer told me he was getting his from Palcosports, should this be an indication?

I'm having a hard time with the brands and everything...


(PS : I'm no gangsta, I'm interested in the M1A1 only)

Hi
I own a Cybergun/Cyma M1A1. I actually fielded it last week. Works great. I did not have a requirement to open the gun so I can only tell you what's written on the box and that is that the gears are metal.
Cybergun is a distributor with their headquarter in France (they do not build guns). Their partner in the U/S is Palcosport. If you get a gun from Palcosport, you'll get the Cybergun logo on the box, their paperwork and battery/charger, etc...
If you want more info, feel free to pm me.
Bomber

But how do you it is with metal gears? Because you have full trademarks?

I just don't want to pay for a FMU one to get plastic crap inside :P

The only shitty ones are the clear and/or plastic M1A1's.

If it's a metal Thompson, it's the "real" one. Also, price is a good indication.

I've read on Arnies that Cybergun also just put some Metal Cymas into their boxes, with their 200x markup.

Are the bushing nylon or metal? I've read reviews saying nylon, others saying metal. Could it be one being cybergun, and the other Cyma, or just Cyma stepping up in the game and upgrading their AEGs?

Short of opening it, I guess I have to believe what's written on the box. I just don't have the knowledge nor the time to open it right now.
Bomber

Nah no problem.

It's just that the information differs everywhere.

Some say this gun has an awesome ROF, some say the motor is shit and the ROF is shitty.

I know my way around AEGs, but I don't want to pay a high price for a Cybergun marked-up price when I can get better at Cyma price.

I'd hate to say that but I strongly believe that it's the same gun.
Bomber

Extremely possible.

Are your trademarks painted or engraved by the way? (Those on the upper)

I don't think CYMA is any cheaper once it arrives in Canada.

I own the gun, cybergun/cyma are the same, its has nylon bushings, shoots 360 on the button with a .2, the rate of fire is meh, fix it with a 7.4 lipo or 9.6 nimh. Any other questions?

Hehe, sums it up.

Do you use a wood kit?

^Not yet:) Just got the gun a couple months ago and haven't put much into it. It shoots great with .28 right out of the box.
I am surprised shiftsup hasn't posted on this, he owned one too and knows more about it

If you're talking Cyma trademarks, there are none. If you're talking Thompson trades, they are painted on. My M1A1 was chrono(ed) @ 370 fps.
Bomber

Cybergun Thompsons = CYMA.

Thanks to all.

Just to visually confirm for you for this particular gun.

Bought one from Styrak and like he said, "Cybergun Thompsons = CYMA".
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Nylon bushings:
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Metal gears:
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Perfect thank you very much, exactly what I wanted to hear!

I'm sure that the vast majority of airsoft guns have metal gears of some sort. The only guns that use plastic gears to my knowledge are those POS clearsoft guns at Canadian Tire Wal-MArt.

Best of both words?

YouTube - Airsoft GI - King Arms Thompson M1A1 Officially Licensed Cybergun AEG

LOL, King Arms is rebranding everything these days.
It's probably just a CYMA.

Styrak- Did you even consider watching the video before generalizing whether or not it is a rebrand.
It isnt a rebrand, king arms now has a Thompson out.
Yes it is licenced by Cybergun because that, suprise suprise, is who owns the rights to utilize the legal trades.

EDIT: More proof, Arnies thread http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forum...owtopic=190729

Wouldn't be surprised. They rebrand ACM gloves and SHS gears.

This isn't proof of anything. Until someone has a pic of the internals and the tappet plate is RED, then it's a Cyma in my eyes.

http://i56.tinypic.com/2lw3yb8.jpg

Isnt red, though i see your point about not being proof.

And to those naive naysayers:
How could this be a rebrand?

CYMA hasnt been producing new guns since the crackdown last year.

EDIT: I relised how small the pic is, getting a bigger one.

And your proof is......?
Until there's closer-up pics out there or someone opens it up, I'm going to assume it's a CYMA.
Even if it is a little different, King Arms could just be taking CYMA's, and changing them a little. All depends on how it looks or what's changed inside.

Well I'm just relieved that it comes with a VENTED piston head! And what are the gears highly resistant against? Spinning? Still sad over the fact that they don't have the red internals, pretty much defined my image of the KA brand.

Maybe it'll mean more aftermarket parts also ;)