WE M4 Build (In progress)
 

Hey guys, I thought I would make a mini-blog on my progress for my new M4 build using the WE M4 as a base platform with 2 swappable uppers. Here are some of the external and internal parts I got so far.


Internal Parts

RA-Tech AW-Super Recoil Buffer (Version 2)
RA tech upgrade package (stinger hop up, fire pin base, NPAS kit)
RA tech trigger box
RA tech short precision (260mm)
RA tech medium precision (350mm)

Im still waiting for my PMC anti-rotation latch, I need to do some research first to see what is available out there and whether it will fit on the WE lower.

I still haven't decided on the RIS/RAS for my gun along with the outer barrel. Maybe you guys can tell me what will look good since I still haven't picked a rail. Enjoy!

Those sights must have cost a pretty penny, as well as everything else.

arent RS Troy sights 200$+ each? (at least for the normal ones...)

RS Magpul stuff is pretty cheap though.... (about 10-20$ more then their PTS version)

From the title of this thread and the first sentence, I thought you were attempting to build a real steel rifle using a WE lower reciever as a base.

That's what I thought too.

This is AIRSOFT build... not real

Any reason WHY you wanted to spend that much on sights alone?

I wonder why too.. I wonder how much you're going to spend on your optic.. lol

turok_t,

I dig it.

Looks like a solid plan so far for a great build. The troy battle sights are a nice addition. Cheap airsoft replica optics/furniture breaks. If you buy real, you buy it one time. All my RS stuff is still going strong, and I beat the living hell out of it at games.

Try doing that with airsoft repro, hell, you zero your optic 4 times.. and it breaks.

Don't just go for what looks good, if you're investing in a RS optic, go for something that will suit your needs on the field. For red dots there are a lot of good cheap options on the market. comp ml2 aimpoints will run you about 500 range, as will a good Eotech. For 4x optic options, Trijicon Acog's are going to ding you about 1400 (ish) depending on the condition/date of manufacture. There are Elcan 4x spectre DR's available in country for about 1600.

It's a big investment, but any of those products will last you until you quit the sport (with a good killflash of course)

And they all look nice.

Jesus Christ!

Get your license and do this to a real one!

So it can sit in a locked gun case and occasionally be brought out to shoot 5 to 10 rnd mags at the range in semi auto?

Come on... this is an airsoft forum, and some people care about realism.

Turok doesn't game though...

I'm not bashing him or anything for attempting this, It's a really interesting build and one that I'll be following.

It just seems a little strange to pay $300 for sights on a gun that's maximum effective range is 80 meters.

I'm running an EoTech 512 and EoTech Gen2 3xMagnifier (Real Steel) on my PTW. Works awsome and I never have to worrie about them going down ;) I understand him doing this build,I'm using a R.S. upper and rail as well.My whole PT is made up of R.S. parts (lower reciver is a prime though and the outer barrel is stock) and as long as you know cost wise as to what your getting into then why not! Keep up the build looking good!

theres nothing wrong with RS optics.... because some clones are just bad.... like the magnifiers... and most of the eotech replicas....

Rail Suggestion?

1. Daniel Defense AR-15 Lite Rail 7.0
2. Daniel Defense MK18 RIS II (9") Black
3. G&P SR16 URX RAS (GP-COP003)

What do you think? Do you have any other rail options you would suggest? Im looking to build my GBBR like an M7A1

Here are some pics of my build so far, the top measuring tape shows 9", and the bottom measuring tape shows 7"

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...t/IMG_8977.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...t/IMG_8980.jpg
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An Ideal body kit and rail for AR would be MRP from LMT company, solid 1 piece upper and rail. It's a pity that the WE won't fit in a real steel MRP upper, and the only MRP kit for GBBR is Prime spec. Go with the URX kit I'd suggest, MK18 and DD 7.0 are flooding on the street right now.

Bad idea the URX : G&P makes it for WA based and would need to rethread the upper receiver. Plus you need a special tool to mount it.
Take a 7" DD that if possible, uses the regular AR15 barrel nut to avoid incompatibilities. The 7" will also permit to put on a short stroke piston system. If I recall LWRC puts that on all their guns now.

My Real Steel Mk18 RIS is on my AEG back in HK, got it from a contact i have that goes to Duke university in North Carolina, paid about 3500 HKD for it about 450 CND? but yeah

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/picture...pictureid=1373

Its an AEG btw

Magpul Enhanced M4 Lower, VLTOR MUR-1 Upper Receiver (2nd Gen), Daniel Defense MK 18 RIS II Front Rail, Magpul CTR Stock, Magpul MIAD Grip, Troy Front & Rear Flip Sights, EOTech 553, Troy Flashider, Magpul PMAG, Tango Down Shorty Front Grip, ATPIAL PEQ-15

only Real Steel parts on this gun would be the EOTech 553, Daniel Defence MK 18 RIS II Front Rail, Magpul CTR stock.

another suggestion would be something like My GBB which is pretty much all Real Steel as well :) other than upper and lower dunno how you guys stick a real steel but yer

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/picture...pictureid=1354

Prime Magpul Lower, Prime VLTOR MUR-1 Upper, Magpul UBR, Magpul MIAD, LaRue 9.0, Prime Noveske 12.5" stainless outer & gasblock, Airsoft Surgeon VLTOR Bolt Carrier, Magpul MBUS, Magpul AFG, PEQ 15, Trijicon RX30, Streamight TLR-1

How does adding a 7" rail permit a short stroke piston system? isnt the rail independent of that?

thought He's building a WE gbbr with real steel parts, didn't notice he was saying G&P, the real URX is only around $500.

The 7" DD AR15 Lite Rail takes the their proprietary Bolt Up System Barrel Nut, NOT a normal barrel nut. Either way, you will have to rethread the barrel nut unless you order a Bolt up barrel nut from DD.

Since you have access to RS parts, order the nut from DD, I did and it saves you a headache.

The WE M4 WILL mate with the any AR15 REAL STEEL uppers, this is whole point of the build.

I'm using a Daniel Defense 9.5 fsp rail (Real steel) and mounted right on the upper no prob,but it was on a real steel upper on a PTW. I think these rails are alittle hard to get now.

The RS DD Bolt-up nut WILL be compatible with the WE and RS upper, someone just stated the DD Lite Rail uses the original barrel nut with the spiked flange, which I corrected.

The Systema PTW (2008) barrel nut is also not compatible with the RS VLTOR upper.

Will probably work with a lot of milling, the side walls of RS are thicker, since AR15s do not have an area for an auto sear, there is a lot of material in the rear of the receiver.

Not to mention the laws you will break for even modding a RS lower. lol

I don't know if it applies to deactivated AR15s tho, there are not many out there anyways.

Everybody has their own passion!!! Whatever turns your crank.

Sorry for the barrel nut, mixed up with a TROY one.

I was saying 7" for short stroke piston because if longer (or covering gaz hole on barrel) you will have to install gas tube and low profile gaz redirector (I don't remember the name it's been years since tinkered with AR15... HK417 all the way :D).
A piston needs some space to even the level for the piston rod. ;)