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quicksilver1024 March 29th, 2011 20:34

Could I safely bring my gun to another country if..
 
Could I safely bring my gun to another country if I disassemble it and put multiple parts in three separate luggages?

I figure the parts won't look very suspicious by themselves.

The only thing I worry about is the magazines and the trigger housing. This is a GAS-powered rifle by the way.

What do you think? :cheers:

voorhees -FWA- March 29th, 2011 20:36

going out of the country is fine... it's getting it back in the country that's the problem.

The Chad March 29th, 2011 20:36

That is intent to smuggle....on a national website... :rolleyes:

Eeyore March 29th, 2011 20:39

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Originally Posted by The Chad (Post 1438497)
That is intent to smuggle....on a national website... :rolleyes:

Shhh...maybe the RCMP wasn't reading! :D

Danke March 29th, 2011 23:25

What country? Some places are stricter than here about airsoft, Australia for example is a big no can do.

Also airlines can look into your bag, if they see a funny gun shaped object they'll get jittery. They may also object to the pressurized magazines.

SteelToe March 30th, 2011 07:54

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Originally Posted by quicksilver1024 (Post 1438493)
Could I safely bring my gun to another country if I disassemble it and put multiple parts in three separate luggages?

I figure the parts won't look very suspicious by themselves.

The only thing I worry about is the magazines and the trigger housing. This is a GAS-powered rifle by the way.

What do you think? :cheers:

Well it may work. Disassembled would not look nothing like the gun....the magazine under x-ray would look weird but not look like the inner profile of a real mag....the receiver however, well, would look still like a receiver even under x-ray.

The Chad March 30th, 2011 09:49

I tried that. Ninoy Aquino airport security knew just by the outline of the gearbox shape that it was Airsoft gun parts. All parts were confiscated with the exception of some things they probably were not instructed to take like a flash hider, pistol grip, motor, RAS....

And this was leaving a country who should probably name airsoft as their national sport.

Renegade) March 30th, 2011 10:16

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Originally Posted by ExtraExtra (Post 1438745)
Well it may work. Disassembled would not look nothing like the gun....the magazine under x-ray would look weird but not look like the inner profile of a real mag....the receiver however, well, would look still like a receiver even under x-ray.

What kind of stupid idiotic, fail at sarcasm statement is that? Do you think that the guards at airports, scanner operators, and luggage checkers missed the segment on what is a part of a gun? Sure the receiver is obvious, but my god, a magazine may look like something else? Right, I'm sure next you'll say they may mistake the flashider for a lipsil tube...

Anyone in the security checking business knows or is shown what parts of a gun are, they arent just shown what a full gun looks like, they are shown what it looks like disassembled.

In other words, no, do not attempt to disassemble and walk casually through customs. Unless you want to feel what handcuffs are and meet a rubber glove in the back room.

Brian McIlmoyle March 30th, 2011 10:25

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Originally Posted by quicksilver1024 (Post 1438493)
Could I safely bring my gun to another country if I disassemble it and put multiple parts in three separate luggages?

I figure the parts won't look very suspicious by themselves.

The only thing I worry about is the magazines and the trigger housing. This is a GAS-powered rifle by the way.

What do you think? :cheers:


Leave the gun Whole, and declare it , put it as checked baggage. it is not illegal to travel with guns if they are legal to own in your country of origin, and legal to posses in the Destination Country.

You must comply with all Export and Import regulation.

Coming back to Canada .. you are not likely to be able to get it back in due to those regulations.

It would be easier to buy a gun in the destination country for use while there and then sell it upon departure.

Specs March 30th, 2011 10:45

If you are planning on staying in Canada it is fine to travel around with your airsoft as long as you declare it and have it safely stored. But the import laws will NOT let you back into Canada with your airsoft. Do not try and hide it from the customs workers, it is a recipe for trouble. While coming to Kingston from Vancouver with a KJW M9 I ran into troubles because I didn't declare it. Everything was fine but I was scared as hell.

When you start bringing guns in and out of the country you are playing with fire. Just don't do it.

DoctorBadVibez March 30th, 2011 11:45

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Originally Posted by quicksilver1024 (Post 1438493)
Could I safely bring my gun to another country if I disassemble it and put multiple parts in three separate luggages?

I figure the parts won't look very suspicious by themselves.

The only thing I worry about is the magazines and the trigger housing. This is a GAS-powered rifle by the way.

What do you think? :cheers:

All contacts clear the strike zone, Operation Common Sense underway:

1. There's already a thread on all this.

2. You are taught since day ONE (1) of airsoft to treat it like a real firearm, why pray tell, would you expect ANYONE else to believe that its anything else?

3. The parts will look VERY suspicious, more than anything airport X-ray staff are trained to check for anything that looks even remotely like a firearm or its respective parts, even if its in 3 parts or three seperate pieces of luggage. This is especially bad since at that point, when found out, you REALLY have zero defense to the "intent to smuggle" part.

4. Know your destinations laws, what might be a slap on the wrist and a fine for trying to bring in airsoft in one country, could mean imprisonment in the other.

5. Mags have to be fully depressurized (as in empty) before you put it on an aircraft, NO PILOT wants an alarm in his aircraft saying that there has been a rapid decompression ANYWHERE in his airplane. Especially when he has over a 100 lives to worry about on board.

PS. By trigger housing, if you mean the lower receiver, hoo boy, you're gonna have fun with that one, trust me. If it was THAT easy to bring airsoft guns across on airplanes, EVERYBODY would be doing it. Go legit, save yourself the hassle and save everyone the hassle of having to read an entire thread on "bad things happened at the airport", which will further lead to another black eye for our sport.

Here's hoping I DON'T see you in the news....

The Chad March 30th, 2011 13:25

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Originally Posted by Renegade) (Post 1438809)
What kind of stupid idiotic, fail at sarcasm statement is that? Do you think that the guards at airports, scanner operators, and luggage checkers missed the segment on what is a part of a gun? Sure the receiver is obvious, but my god, a magazine may look like something else? Right, I'm sure next you'll say they may mistake the flashider for a lipsil tube...

Anyone in the security checking business knows or is shown what parts of a gun are, they arent just shown what a full gun looks like, they are shown what it looks like disassembled.

In other words, no, do not attempt to disassemble and walk casually through customs. Unless you want to feel what handcuffs are and meet a rubber glove in the back room.

ACTUALLY, in our major airports (Locations are confidential) machines automatically check for dangerous chemicals and items on a molecular level. Good luck!!

SteelToe March 30th, 2011 15:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade) (Post 1438809)
What kind of stupid idiotic, fail at sarcasm statement is that? Do you think that the guards at airports, scanner operators, and luggage checkers missed the segment on what is a part of a gun? Sure the receiver is obvious, but my god, a magazine may look like something else? Right, I'm sure next you'll say they may mistake the flashider for a lipsil tube...

Anyone in the security checking business knows or is shown what parts of a gun are, they arent just shown what a full gun looks like, they are shown what it looks like disassembled.

In other words, no, do not attempt to disassemble and walk casually through customs. Unless you want to feel what handcuffs are and meet a rubber glove in the back room.

Relax Renegade. This is a discussion and the comment was that it may work due to volume and depending on the level of training of the screener of course. So please hold off on the name calling.

Raskas March 30th, 2011 17:18

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Originally Posted by ExtraExtra (Post 1439015)
This is a discussion and the comment was that it may work due to volume and depending on the level of training of the screener of course.

...except that it won't.

You can't honestly be expecting help in regards to sneaking gun-shaped objects past airport security.

Keep it whole, declare it, keep it in country, don't expect to be keeping it if you cross borders.

Renegade) March 30th, 2011 17:22

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Originally Posted by ExtraExtra (Post 1439015)
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Relax Renegade. This is a discussion and the comment was that it may work due to volume and depending on the level of training of the screener of course. So please hold off on the name calling.

1. I never name called, I said your statement was stupid, idiotic, and if it was sarcastic, it failed huge. This is a discussion indeed, and I am completely telling anyone reading this to disregard what you just said based on numerous facts and most of all, common sense.

2. You just confirmed that you don't really have a clue as to what advice your giving. Telling someone to attempt to smuggle and that it may work based on the level of training of someone, is just stupid as I said. Why would you post that?

That's like me saying you may rob that bank over there, the security guard might be new and under-trained, and the security system might be old and may confuse a bank robbery to just an every day activity...

3. I dont jump on people a lot on these forums, but when I see someone like yourself, post something that is basically telling someone he can break the law with a few if's as your facts, I dont take that too lightly seeing as I work in the Law Enforcement business.

Think before you post something next time, even if its a joke.

TokyoSeven March 30th, 2011 17:38

Long story short:

If your gun is in Canada, leave it in Canada.

If your gun is not in Canada, leave it outside of Canada.


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