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overkill1125 August 1st, 2011 09:13

Paintball Mask
 
I am looking to purchase a mask and was wondering if any of you used or have comments on the jt spectra flex 8 full head coverage?

http://www.rockstartactical.com/JT_S...lex8-fc-sc.htm

It has great reviews for paintball, what about for airsoft?

Thanks for your input.

ragnagna August 1st, 2011 13:26

If you really want a mask for airsoft, don't buy a paintball mask, buy an airsoft mask I suggest you a mask like this one: http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/media/cat...g_1_mark_1.jpg. It's much cooler than a conventional paintball mask and you hear better.

Gunny_McSmith August 1st, 2011 15:17

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Originally Posted by ragnagna (Post 1510542)
If you really want a mask for airsoft, don't buy a paintball mask, buy an airsoft mask I suggest you a mask like this one: http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/media/cat...g_1_mark_1.jpg. It's much cooler than a conventional paintball mask and you hear better.

No... dont ever do that, Most fields require Paintball approved goggles ONLY, Airsoft goggles usually dont meet any security criteria and arent safe!

BTW: you dont need a full head mask for airsoft... even for paintball, that would be a bit overkill, and not comfortable at all!

If I were you, I would get the JT Spectra goggles/mask with thermal lens! they are one of the best/most comfortable masks/goggles out there!

http://www.ansgear.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=spectra

Able1 August 1st, 2011 15:33

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Originally Posted by Gunny_McSmith (Post 1510585)
No... dont ever do that, Most fields require Paintball approved goggles ONLY, Airsoft goggles usually dont meet any security criteria and arent safe!

BTW: you dont need a full head mask for airsoft... even for paintball, that would be a bit overkill, and not comfortable at all!

If I were you, I would get the JT Spectra goggles/mask with thermal lens! they are one of the best/most comfortable masks/goggles out there!

http://www.ansgear.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=spectra

I second this, JT masks in General are really good. The Flex 8 has the ability to witch out the faceguard for different colors or camouflages or if you just wanna use the goggles alone. They don't imper your hearing at all, ragnagna just needs to clean the BB's out of his ears.

Cheers and safe shootin'
P.S don't forget to change out your lenses after every season.

SF_Chewy August 1st, 2011 19:57

I use JT masks all the time and they are great. With the Flex 8 the entire ear and grill (the lower part of your mask) is one piece. So on hot days if you decide to go goggles only, you may be stuck without ear protection. Some people don't mind this. With the full head coverage, I find on hot days its just too much. To be honest I play a lot of paintball and airsoft, and while getting beaned every once in a while does hurt its not enough to make me want to wear full head gear. You'll get used to it.

If you're looking for an alternative you can try the JT Proflex/Spectra. Essentially the grill and ear pieces are different than the Flex 8. They come with soft ears (or hard if you go with the old school spectras) which are independent of the grill, so you have that added protection if you go goggles only.

I find overall JT thermal lenses are some of the best in the industry. I've played in 40+ weather with my JT's and never had a fogging issue. Like someone previously said just remember to change the lens every once in a while, ie when you see a crack on the lens or when the lens starts "peeling" (you'll see this on older lenses).

And like some other people have noted, you can use them everywhere as they're widely accepted paintball goggles.

Chemstick August 2nd, 2011 10:57

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Originally Posted by Gunny_McSmith (Post 1510585)
No... dont ever do that, Most fields require Paintball approved goggles ONLY, Airsoft goggles usually dont meet any security criteria and arent safe!

BTW: you dont need a full head mask for airsoft... even for paintball, that would be a bit overkill, and not comfortable at all!

If I were you, I would get the JT Spectra goggles/mask with thermal lens! they are one of the best/most comfortable masks/goggles out there!

http://www.ansgear.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=spectra

great thing about these it that the bottom can either be removed if you dont want it/want another color. or they can be folded up to help you breath easier I use to use these when I was on a paintball team they are pretty great and I know quite a few guys use them on the airsoft field as well and they love them

Mr. inked August 7th, 2011 07:26

Or what i have seen some guys do is use a pair if goggles normally taken out of a paint ball mask(because most masks are to bulky to aim down sights)then they buy a steel mesh thats tight fitting to the face and covers the mouth.

bakercompany August 7th, 2011 23:13

Can anybody comment on how well these fit with eyeglasses or make some recommendations on paintball goggles that do well with glasses?

slink182 August 8th, 2011 06:59

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Originally Posted by bakercompany (Post 1513770)
Can anybody comment on how well these fit with eyeglasses or make some recommendations on paintball goggles that do well with glasses?

The JT's are roomy enough to accommodate a pair of glasses underneath without too much crowding. If you're concerned with fitment, try a pair on at the store. Although the JT Thermal lenses won't fog, I'm not certain if the same would hold true for glasses worn underneath (I wear contacts for airsoft games).

bakercompany August 8th, 2011 11:32

Cool, thanks. I've given up on contacts over the last few years, but maybe some disposables would do for under the mask.

Do you know of anywhere in the K/W area that stocks JTs? I'm in Guelph...

slink182 August 8th, 2011 12:23

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Originally Posted by bakercompany (Post 1513920)
Cool, thanks. I've given up on contacts over the last few years, but maybe some disposables would do for under the mask.

Do you know of anywhere in the K/W area that stocks JTs? I'm in Guelph...

Yeah, I just wear a pair of daily lenses. A 1-month supply will probably last 8-months at my current usage rate.

And you can pick up JTs at the Flag Raider store (co-joined with the indoor field) in Kitchener.

noobairsoft August 14th, 2011 01:41

I got the specter in od there not to bad of a price for them andi can take everything off and just use the googles and visor or what ever you want

Reckless August 14th, 2011 14:09

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Originally Posted by ragnagna (Post 1510542)
buy an airsoft mask I suggest you a mask like this one: http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/media/cat...g_1_mark_1.jpg. It's much cooler than a conventional paintball mask and you hear better.

and those lenses can/will crack or out right shatter with guns clearing 400fps ... they are not made/rated for 'north american' play .... which is too bad cause their fans are powerful as hell .. you can feel your eyeballs drying out with the wind that's thrown through em. after testing however, I got a wicked set of fans for my JT carnivores :D lol

grail25 August 18th, 2011 15:09

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Originally Posted by slink182 (Post 1513847)
The JT's are roomy enough to accommodate a pair of glasses underneath without too much crowding. If you're concerned with fitment, try a pair on at the store. Although the JT Thermal lenses won't fog, I'm not certain if the same would hold true for glasses worn underneath (I wear contacts for airsoft games).

I tried to wear glasses with goggle (JT) only and whyle my mask didn't fog, my glasses sure did :(

Jimski August 18th, 2011 15:17

what is fog?

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp...h-bottle-1.jpg

Gunny_McSmith August 20th, 2011 21:48

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Originally Posted by grail25 (Post 1519259)
I tried to wear glasses with goggle (JT) only and whyle my mask didn't fog, my glasses sure did :(

That becasue you need fans on your goggle if you are wearing glasses under it!

(Fogtech is a good addition too... ;))

Motormouth August 20th, 2011 22:36

I play paintball, if you wear a mask, they're only set for 340 FPS, so if you go to an airsoft field pinging 400-500, say good by to those eyeballs of yours, unless you buy one and stress test it. To my knowledge, it's a bad Idea, but I could be wrong.

To an addition to what Gunny said, you can buy special fog proof wax, there's a guy on youtube named Dre_Wolf, or something of the sorts, he has guide on that stuff, there are masks that have fans as well. Most masks aren't aqua proof, so if you sweat, it'll get all over your goggles, which can severely disorient your sight, especially if you're hopped into a building and being supressed, you'll sweat like a pig.

In my opinion (which is what I'm about to do seeing that I'm fresh to the sport) just get a pair o'these: http://www.armyissue.com/store/index...c-goggles.html

Gunny_McSmith August 20th, 2011 22:48

340fps with a .68" projectile...

Airsoft might be shooting 400fps, but the projectiles are 6mm and weigh only .12g to .40g...

Simple Newtonian physics dude, and you can conclude that Paintball approved lenses are 100% safe for airsoft use...

PS: i dont recommend ESS goggles if you are wearing glasses, AND if you are asian (asian faces are flatter + wider = you'll need to purchase the "ESS asian face" lens, or else you'll find the goggles really uncomfy!

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Originally Posted by Motormouth (Post 1520350)
I play paintball, if you wear a mask, they're only set for 340 FPS, so if you go to an airsoft field pinging 400-500, say good by to those eyeballs of yours, unless you buy one and stress test it. To my knowledge, it's a bad Idea, but I could be wrong.

To an addition to what Gunny said, you can buy special fog proof wax, there's a guy on youtube named Dre_Wolf, or something of the sorts, he has guide on that stuff, there are masks that have fans as well. Most masks aren't aqua proof, so if you sweat, it'll get all over your goggles, which can severely disorient your sight, especially if you're hopped into a building and being supressed, you'll sweat like a pig.

In my opinion (which is what I'm about to do seeing that I'm fresh to the sport) just get a pair o'these: http://www.armyissue.com/store/index...c-goggles.html


rockafella November 15th, 2011 23:17

anyone have a recommendation for a mask that is both paintball field approved and also low profile enough to be worn under a helmet, and allow for a decent cheek weld to use iron sights or at the very least allow someone to look through the scope without a riser?

SuperHog November 15th, 2011 23:58

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anyone have a recommendation for a mask that is both paintball field approved and also low profile enough to be worn under a helmet, and allow for a decent cheek weld to use iron sights or at the very least allow someone to look through the scope without a riser?

Here's one from Canadian Tire made by JT for $39. It is airsoft specific and allows cheeking to your stock but it may not be allowed on a paintball field because it does not have the full side protection. What is nice about this mask is the area in front of the mouth is solid, whereas in a paintball mask it has vents that can allow a bb to pass through making is not as safe as this one since it is airsoft specific (point this feature out to your paintball field). I have see videos on this one and it fair well against a paintball mask. The lenses have the same impact certification as a paintball mask. It also looks like it could be worn under a helmet but you need to verify.

All the paintball masks I have tried do not allow cheeking to the stock so a riser will be needed for your optics.

SuperHog November 16th, 2011 08:33

Just found this video that showed airsoft testing on paintball masks.

Dr. Airsoft, Practical Testing: Goggles and Facemasks - YouTube


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