Noob Marksman Advice
 

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For all those DM's and Snipers and Sharpshooters and plain ole' good shots out there, what is your tactical and strategic advice for a springer slingin noob with minimal camoflauge (dark green shirt and grey-brown pants) with binoculars?

I am 6'0"
148 lb
have almost no stealth experience.
Like to work in a team, but am just as effective individually
has pretty good eyesight,
and has rather good patience, and decent observational skills.

Thanks. I've been getting killed a lot at really short range by lpeg, aep, and shotgun wielders, and I know I should be able to at least match them as I have at least a 2.5:1 rage advantage. I know and admit to being basically defenseless against real aeg's, short of a few other players to support me. Also, countersniper advice would also be helpful, as I don't really want to get hit by my friend's 550 fps Christmas gift.

Thanks, Bill. :)

You're 13.

Wait 5 more years, then we'll help. We don't condone minors with airsoft rifles, even the cheap shit.

That and you're looking to buy cheap shit out of country. Again, a no go here.

Try again later.

Edit: Ah, you're currently in the US.

Keep your cheap airsoft shit in the US, but it'd be ill advised if you braught it into country. In most cases it will be consfiscated. With your given age you'll find very few that will want to help you

Try Http://airsoftretreat.com/ instead. They'll give you advice on your cheap shit there.

So you aren't from Southern Ontario then.

In any case, it seems to be the rule on these forums that nobody is going to advise you on purchases till you're AV'ed.

OK, and thank you both for your time.
I will go register for Airsoft Retreat, and ask my questions there.
I initially thought this would be a better forum to ask because the discussions on these forums seem overall more professional and more informed. However, seeing that I am not eligible for use until the age of 18, I will search elsewhere, and return here for advice not directly related to purchase.

Right, I'm not in Southern Ontario, though I was originally. Sorry for the initial, unexpected ambiguity of "Great Lakes Region."

:)

And just to be smug, I'm 14.
14.0575342466 mean solar years. :D

Canadian airsofting scene is nothing like in the States where a 14 yo can walk into a store and buy a pistol/rifle without batting an eye.

We're more mature here (99.99% of the time) simply because we're older with more experience.

And congratulations on being born 26 July 1997, and being conceived by your parents in mid to late October 1996 (assuming you were brought to term normally)... they must be so proud.

Bub, you are shy of 4 years to buy airsoft guns and here, no sidearm cost less than 120 dollars in Canada, short of being aged verified. So wait those 4 years and come back here when you are AV'ed then buy them plus don't ever troll, read ever FAQ here and don't even try to import airsoft guns to Canada because it WILL get confiscated by the CSBA. PS don't ask where to buy the gun because no one will tell you.

Sit down, stop your yapping and read this:
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=128970

Thank you, and they are. Good math. Actually, I was 2 weeks early, but that's getting to NRA.
So does anyone have any useful tactics for a marksman who is not well camoflauged, with a pair of binoculars and a bolt action which outranges most of the opposition? Tactics should be fair ground, right?

Read. Coincidentally, I actually just finished reading that before coming to this thread and seeing your link. What are the chances :rolleyes:

Anyways, I'm not importing anything, nor smuggling anything anywhere.
So do you think bb's are cheaper in Mexico? ;)

What do you think is the best way to aim and fire a big traditional stock rifle in the woods at moving targets? Is a scope necessary, or even helpful?

Also, how does everyone organize games? I find that getting everyone to agree on a good date is really quite tough.

Ok guys, he's all yours...

There is actually a section about tactics if you looked a bit I'm sure you can find it.
This forum is a great tool with many knowledgeable members on a whole range of topics. But we ask you to try ans use the search function first. Then if you have more specific questions about the things you have discovered or truly can't find info feel free to ask questions.


For an example instead of "So does anyone have any useful tactics for a marksman who is not well camoflauged, with a pair of binoculars and a bolt action which outranges most of the opposition?"

A better question would be " I've read that as a sniper with superior range over aegs I should help support assaults or to pin down enemies. Where should I position myself to best accomplish this?"

Anyways you get the hi and low of what I'm trying to get at I hope. Enjoy the forum, and read those FAQ's.

Thanks, and sorry for that. As a matter of fact, your example is an excellent question which I'd actually be curious about. so,
I've read that as a sniper with (marginally) superior range over aeg's, I should help support assaults or to pin down enemies. Where should I position myself best to accomplish this?

Ok, thats a really good question :rolleyes:

Well typically a sniper in airsoft gathers intelligence and passes it on down. Your binoculars will help you do that, allowing you to see where the enemy appears to moving too, numbers etc. Typically we play with radios and if your group does too this is a great addition to your kit.

Generally speaking you want to try to take a flank when supporting an assault keeping opfor pinned down and unable to move or effectively return fire while your team manuvers. Being higher up obviously helps with this as well. But as a sniper lacks rate of fire and there generally is a MED (medium engagement distance) when using a sniper rifle you need a side arm. Strictly speaking a snipers primary is his pistol and his rifle is his secondary. Without a sidearm you are pretty much at the mercy of anyone who enters your MED.

For the love of every thing 6mm and spherical. Search the forms, google, tea leave. Something.


Depending where you play you may be just sent to get intel. Nothing more. Other times helping a patrol. Others setting up ambushes. There is no exact thing you can do. Its a role.
You will do what you are needed when needed. Like any rifleman, just with a different set of jobs.

And just because I could.

http://www.wikihow.com/Be-an-Airsoft-Sniper

Thank you, that makes a lot of sense. At least now I know I was in the right direction when I decided to upgrade my sidearm.
I read in the tactics forum that leaning the rifle to one side or another in wind will allow the hopup to counter the wind, giving a mostly straight shot. I was wondering whether or not there was a rule of thumb to determine wind speed, or one to determine the required angle of tilt so that the bb sufficiently counters the wind, while still allowing the hopup to mostly support the bb's weight, or if this is simply intuition.

Also, I am curious as to exactly how I can best manage my meager volume of fire to actually pin down the enemy. Assuming I stay concealed, they may very well fail to notice my fire, amid the automatic barrage of our squad. Do I actually try to mainly get kills, or do I try to create the illusion of more of our members encircling their rear, or something else completely?

Do you think a scope would be a worthy investment considering the short eye relief of binocs?

Also, since I barely have the funds for arms and ammo, let alone a radio of decent quality, will a continuous cellphone conversation work?


Finally, regarding your prior advice again, how do I flank them safely, quietly, and quickly? I have no more camo than dull clothes, my steps are somewhat audible, I lack training in concealment, and the woods are dense enough to conceal an enemy ambush to either flank. How do I tread to avoid compromise?

Thanks, I've read that before. Very helpful.

Train... go walk in the wood and try to be sneaky lol I don't know...
btw if you want to flank them , always easier when you have a direct assault team pinning their head down while going on flank...

First, do you really want to accidentaly damage or destroy your cell phone? i highly reccomend against bringing it into games. Getting the screen shot out would really suck.

Second, as you stated: You have no camo, no training in concealment, your loud when you walk. I personally dont think Sniping is for you. A guy i know was a Sniper with the Canadian Forces. Its not something you take lightly. Its a serious commitment which requires a lot of training and skill. Both of which you stated you lack. You really need to reconsider why you puchased a sniper rifle to begin with. You wouldve been a lot better off buying an AEG.

Death is right. Its not just a gun. Its an entire style alot of people cant. Took me years pulling recon roles to get the hang of it.

Most of the things your asking can be learned simply from going out and playing airsoft. You learn the physics as you play. If you can't learn airsoft physics, stealth, and where you want to be simply by playing the sport, then sniping isn't for you lol

Thank you all. I should not try to be a sniper, though I'm sure the associated skills will be helpful in any role, and I will practice. I consider myself a designated marksman instead, who takes out longer range targets than the rest of my squad, but moves as a team. The reason I bought a spring (not sniper, per se) rifle as opposed to an aeg is that in my experience, a 50 dollar springer will always outlast a 50 dollar lpeg, and I had a bad experience with my first aeg's gearbox cracking. At the time of its purchase, I didn't have enough money to opt for a JG or even a CYMA (despite a friend offering a fully upgraded JG M4 at $100) I do realize the obvious advantage of AEG's and one will likely be my next gun. Probably a nice m-14.
For my grade, I am also quite good at physics, on paper at least, though I'm sure practice will do much good.

Just out of curiosity, are radio transmitters significantly more durable, or is it simply because they lack a screen? I imagine a small piece of plywood could act as sufficient armor for this purpose. Besides, it's not an IPhone, it's a $10 net 10 phone with free minutes attached. :)

Radios do still have screens, which can still be shot out or shattered without the correct pouch/placement on your loadout.

A radio is more effective though as your not limited to speaking to just one person but everyone in your squad or team

Another really, really big factor is not having a rifle thats 50 dollars... I mean, the weapon is only a tool for the sniper himself but it really does help if the gun can shoot past 100ft without veering off, lol.

A weapon that can't shoot past 100 feet is a tool to help him learn to practice his stealthy movement and concealment! It's actually brilliant :P

You always get what you pay for in airsoft. My M249 has had the same parts in it for 4 years of hard use now, never once has the mechbox failed me. But I spent $350 on the internals alone.

If you want a gun that lasts, don't buy anything chinese or at walmart. Tokyo marui is the best long term, reliable budget gun out there. And buy G&P if you want something metal.

I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. There are some Chinese manufacturers that build great guns, just as there are some Japanese manufacturers that build pretty much ungameable guns.

Would I consider buying a WA for its "pretty factor"? Sure. Would I game it? Eh, probably not.

Real Sword, VFC, G&P, CA, KJW - they all build great guns, and are either based in China or Taiwan. Maybe not consistently great across their entire catalog, but for the most part they're reliable and can take a beating. TM - they're great also, but they've also had their share of lemons.

Tactics...
 

Advance under cover, place yourself on a flank.

your guys then advance to contact ( which for most airsofters means stumble forward till someone starts shooting) Most engagements start at the extreme range of most guns. here is where your range advantage works to your benefit.

Once contact occurs, then you breach cover and engage targets from the flanks while they dance around behind bushes blazing away at your guys.

This will only work if your guys are in on the plan.. and won't really be any use in a loose skirmish kind of environment ( which is probably where you play )

We've all agreed that Hong Kong is too hardcore to be grouped in with the rest of China lol