Steyr aug vs. Famas
 

Before I get started I want to set the record straight. Yes I am a newb, so therefore I know nothing of airsoft and am a waste of BB's. But I played a very, very, very small skirmish with a couple of lame spring guns a while ago and i'm hooked. I want to know which gun would go better for a newb who liks rushing more than sitting back and waiting, wants something with a high rate of fire and decent accuracy, and is not overused or seen very often (which to my understanding is both of these. I think they look cool;)) So if anybody can take time out of their day to help me out I want a bit of insight into which would be better for a first Aeg.

I know nothing about either the famas or the aug, except for that the famas is a older style gun and there's not as much upgrades.

Sorry thats all I can answer.

Erik

stick with TM guns and you cant go wrong. up top there is the canadian retailers section...check them out...EXPECT to pay about 1000-1500 initially to get started with this sport. It is financially demanding and usually cutting corners means that you will end up spending double in the end.

if you do not have the money, save up until you do.

best thing to do in your case is find a local game to attend to. you will be able to see different guns and most of the time the players are nice enough to let you test fire their guns if you like them.

try to rent a gun before emptying yout pockets.

FAMAS= Ver.1
AUG= Ver. 3 or 6, depending on the gun.
If you want to keep your gun stock the FAMAS is great, because of the high rate of fire it's great for hosing. I'd take the AUG though because performing upgrades will be less of a headache, and the Ver. 3 or 6 mechbox should be more reliable. I've skirmished with both, and the AUG does feel a bit more solid. Try both, see which you like better. Meh.

ver 6?
in the aug?
isnt the ver 6 a PSG1 mechbox?

the aug feels a LOT more solid
famas is creaky and plasticy
aug is very solid

And ass heavy.

I have both.

AUG is built better
Famas fires faster.

Everything else is cosmetic

here a quick break down of both.

TM AUG
Good
- Bulit better
- long inner barrel
- shoots a accurate

Bad
- Heavy
- its big if your a small person
- its a little different to hold.
- not many upgrades

FAMAS
- Shoots FAST
- compact to move around
- decent range
- Bad Ass upgrades

BAD
- A little light
- Could be bulit better

Over if i had to choose, i would look at a FAMAS if your planning on play up front. and a AUG if you want to lay back and snipe.

i like both these guns. iam a fan of the bull pup design, but I own a famas it is about four years old now i believe, gone through two owners, a good one and a young kid who didnt clean it lube it and dry fired it lots. Still the gun is solid, still works like new, I love how tight it is, easily manuverable and you can mod m16 clips to work with it to boot. I would say definatly get one. Its Tm and they last for ever.

wow everyone is so clueless.

Famas is a version 1
MP5/M16 version 2
Aug is a version 3
PSG1 is a version 4
Uzi - version 5
Thompson/P90 - version 6
M14 - version 7

The Famas is hard to upgrade. You will likely need torqe up gears. Plus metal bushings and a spring. Ive never owned one but its the first version and from what I hear it breaks down alot when upgraded.

The Aug all you need to upgrade are metal bushings and a spring. Ver3 mechbox is almost impossible to break. Its also one of the most quiet mechboxs out of them all.

IMO the Aug is the better gun by far.

Did you ever upgrade it. Or just keep it stock. You know me, a stock gun doesnt stay that way for long in my hands. In most cases Ive upgraded my guns the day after I bought them. When I bought my Aug I shot a low cap out of it then took it apart. Had it shooting 370 a few hours after it was in my hands :D

EDIT: Thought I was talking to peter lol. Eh swatt you know that your avatar is a picture of phalanix?

I love my AUG, very nice feel, comfortable, I love the fact that it's almost official weight. I've got the "civilian" version, so I have a nice RDS on it. I've got a PDI140 in it, Systema piston, 9.6V 1200mAh battery, and when I get the extra time and money I'm putting a tight bore in it. I need to get a set of reinforced gears now though... the stock ones just gave up on me... decided they didn't want to do the work anymore... I think it's firing mid 300s but it hasn't been chronied with the upgrades yet, I'm going to get it done when I put the new gears in.

Keir Forget have you considered a TM p90? It's lighter and newer then an AUG or FAMAS, and because its smaller, the p90 is better suited for rushing around.
I own an AUG and IMO its weight and long barrel make it a bad choice for running around with. The AUG is a better weapon for sitting back and sniping with.

It depends on how big you are too... for me, the AUG is a great size, it's not so small as to feel toyish, but it's not a huge M60... it's a good size for me. It's smaller than an M16 anyway.

Thats why you should be smart like me and get a small MP5-K and a nice long and big AUG, you can switch around easily :wink:

Theres a lot of information to take in here but basically i'm getting that people don't like the Famas.

BUT I DON'T WANNA!!! I have about seventy five cents, will that do?

Um, no. No it will not.


You have any body parts your willing to part with though?
:grin:

no really, expect to spend that much...you will learn that if you cheap out it will bite you in the ass one way or another...sorry if this comes as bad news to you, but hey, this is how it is...we are all in the same boat...

I'm cheaping my way out with a shotty instead of an AEG. I have a feeling that I'll get a misfeed and broken tri-nozzle the first time I fire at a hostile.

i must say go with the AUG its an all around good weapon, but for your first airsoft you may wanna go with an armalite type or maybe mp5, but its up to you.

Ignore the stuff about the FAMAS breaking down and being hard to upgrade; people who've never owned 'em talk out their ass (RAS_Jackson's post was good and informative though, so pay attention to his). The V1 mechbox is built more solidly than the V2, and for Canadian field limits it'll support decent upgrades.

I've posted stuff about upgrading the FAMAS in other sections, but here it is again in a nutshell since I feel sorry for you getting bombarded with so much misinformation:

Bushings: you can use Systema v2/v3 ones, but they're a tight fit.

Springs: I have a PDI 140% in mine and it barely affected ROF. I'd avoid going much higher than PDI 150% or equiv., since a replacement mechbox is hard to find. I feel 140% is an entirely 'safe' upgrade (for the gears, mechbox, etc; I've never had any problems with it, after several years)

Gears: There's Systema flat cut (Flat cut == stock design) FAMAS/V1 gears, which you can sometimes find at HK shops. I don't use em, the mild upgrade doesn't warrant it. As for specialized cut gears (torque up, high speed), stock they're already a high speed design, and you don't need torque up for such a mild spring upgrade (it'd just mess up the ROF)

Pistons & Piston heads: v2/v3 work fine. I use a systema polycarb piston, and a systema aluminum piston head.

Inner barrel can be swapped for a tightbore. Some people use G3 barrels cuz they're just a few millimeters shorter; others prefer cutting down M16 barrels cuz they're easier to come by. Some people bore out a bit of the outer barrel so they can use full length M16 barrels (more work, I can't notice any advantage to it).

Hop packings are standard v2/v3 type. But you have to pretty much strip down the entire gun to get to it.

Most of the other stuff in the mechbox is V1 parts only.

You'll also hear people spew stuff about the motor being old an inferior cuz it was the first design (EG560): this is also totally wrong, unless you're buying some vintage 10 year old AEG. Later models use an EG560HT (high torque) motor, which performs similarly to the EG700. In doesnt in all respects, but it does when compared with the types of upgrades you'd be using in the FAMAS, so for all intents and purposes, similar.

Cons: the biggest con, as RAS_Jackson pointed out, is it feels poorly constructed out of the box. You get a lot of loose plastic on plastic squeeks. So one of the first tasks at hand when you get one is to disassemble the body and strategically place some electrical tape to buffer out the frame. This makes everything quiet, and it feels much tighter and more solid.

Other con is most of the screws screw directly into plastic (!), so its easy to mess up the threads bigtime if you aren't careful, and then yo're in a world of shit cuz you can't reassemble your body properly.

Biggest con, in your case... the gun isn't noob friendly. As can be witnessed in this and other threads, a lot of people who are usually knowledgeable about AEGs don't have a clue what's going on when it comes to the FAMAS, so finding help can be a problem.

On the other hand, the AUG feels sturdy as a rock out of the box, and the design is easier to work on. There are also more after market parts and conversion kits available, depending on what you plan on doing. Personally I dislike the optics in the Mil model, so I'd recommend the RT version (the one with the optics rail) and you can mount a red dot or whatever optics you choose.

It doesn't have the mad ROF the FAMAS has, but the high ROF can be annoying (even upgraded, my famas puts out 6-8 BBs in a half second burst).

The stock AUG also seems more accurate, and as with the M16A2 and AK47, it can hold its own [stock] against lightly upgraded AEGs.

Please keep in mind when i say "Bad ass upgrades" i look at the external options. There a some crazy options out there, First Factory, GG, GP. I consider a FAMAS an Mp5ish sized AEG. (i would even attempt to snipe with it, even upgraded) Personally i would play up front with that type of AEG so internal upgrades i wouldnt be too concerned about.

Like i said you want to be a sniper and play back, look at the AUG as a first choice. Because you cant expect to run to fast with a 50 pound gun thats a meter long.

They ve said it before and I ll say it again, if you come out to a CIA game you will see all types of guns (stock and upgraded). We do not mind if you wanna shoot a few. We play alot of forest games so you need range and accuracy rather than speed. A sturdy gun that is light enough to lug through the woods all day. Some thing easy to upgrade, and as previously stated be prepared to shell out the dough I think HGI was saying recently he spent nearly $ 1800 to upgrade his M4 fully and counting!!!!

A friend of mine says his AUG has a Ver.6 in it. I didn't think that was the case either but I guess some AUGs did come equipped with a Ver.6.

I have decided that I want a Steyr Aug much more. Thanks all. Any more additional information would be much appreciated.

this may give you some more info if you want it http://www.airsoftunlimited.airsoftc...wtopic.php?t=4
ths website has 2 to 7 reviews on alomst every AEG made. just scolle down and find AUG reviews and read away.

aug sounds freakin cool when you work the bolt
:nod:

Yeah, a nice solid action and the "shhschink" sound it makes when it slides is great. I love it. Nice solid feel, one of the more realistic feeling guns out of the box IMO. I wouldn't trade it for all the tea. As soon as I get my new gears I'll be rockin'... I might look at a tightbore for it down the road too.

hey guys..dotn forget the you can field strip the aug down to 3 pcs mid fight if you ever get a jam. i have one adn it's awsome as soon as you get the hop up right. and it's stock.

Version 3 one of the best gearboxes for both strength and upgradability

why not just get a gun you like? you are paying big money for it. instead of trying to look different?.. its not like anyone will care to look at your gun on the field when they are shooting at you.
if you want to be unique dont wear camo to the game =P haha

i suggest looking for a gun that you will like using and still great for both field and cqb use would be the wise... also picking a gun that has a good resale value is key to your purchase *if you plan on selling it down the road.

why bother having a unique gun when you are just starting out? technically all the guns are the same internally.. they just look different on the outside. each person here has their own personally preference.. you should find out your own =)

oh and just to stick on topic.. the MP5K isnt used that much on the field either =P.. try that.. its solid.. its compact.. you could find a unique solution to make it field worthy next to an m4..


anyways cheers and good luck shopping.

Try it before you buy it. Theres a gun for everyone you just have to look around and search for the right one. Personally I enjoy the Famas over the Aug. Ive used both and the Famas I used was very nice. Beautiful RDS on it, found it to be very accurate and the look of it is awsome. Bit on the plastic side and less solid then the aug for sure.

FAMAS is based on the V1 mechbox. Although many of the internals used by the V1 mechbox are identical to the V2/V3 internals, my personal experience with the V1 mechbox is that power upgrade delivers less satisfactory results.

For snippers, AUG is a better choice I guess.

for how you play, famas all the way. the steyr is acurate but heavy, and the famas is lighter and has a higher rate of fire.

Is it possible to patch metal parts onto the FAMAS? I've been wondering, I know mine feels kinda plasticky and i was wondering if someone else has tried this. Just remove the FAMAS pannels and replace them with painted metal ones? Whaddaya say?

the AUG is better. you probobly have a different gun now but the steyr aug is Amazing. go here for good pics.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DN
and if you have any problems. the only problem with the gun I know of is that sometimes it shoots 2 bb's at a time. that can be fixed with a deepfire metal aug feed. can be bought from airsoftatlanta.com under upgrades and for 9 dollars. so yeah. I have an amazing aug that never fails. and with upgraded internals that I did. so good luck

if you have any aug questions too I may be able to help. b/c I love my Aug and know some prety good places to get stuff for it.

if you are asking if it is possible to fabricate metal parts to replace the ABS Plastic parts. Then the answer is yes. if you have the tools, skill, and money to do it, it is possible.

I have not heard of anyone doing it because i think no one has ever had that big of a problem of the ABS body breaking? unless they fell on their gun extremely hard.