Lonex internals?
 

Has anyone used Lonex internals in their guns? What do you think?

I'm looking for a replacement gearbox for my gun (I got a good deal on a metal body, so it'd be cheaper than trying to replace my KWA G2X body that's cracked), and I was looking at a Lonex drop in box. The local tech likes their parts a lot, but I like other opinions.

This is what I was looking to get http://www.shootercbgear.com/product...oducts_id=2759

tumbleweed...

I'm in no way a specialist in the matter, having started airsoft only recently (but I do read shitload of stuff so I think I'm kind of knowledgeable to a certain degree). Since no one answered you yet, I'll tell you just this:

Lonex is a division of Prometheus, which people tends to see as having great quality, so I would say it might be a good thing yes.

I haven't tried any of their products though (save for my inner barrel, which is great), so I would wait to see what others with more experience have in term of opinion.

I've read some good reviews on other sites for everything except the cylinder head (I think it was). Guess I'll take the plunge and review them myself lol.

I've seen good reviews about the Lonex parts as well. I have Lonex tighbores in both my AEGs and no problems. I also have Lonex M4 Flash mags and they're great!

I knew lonex was coming out with parts, but the only one I have come in contact with is the flash mag.

Lonex seems well regarded on US airsoft forums like Airsoft Mechanics. I hear good things about the motors in particular.

A bit off topic sorry, that isn't a bad site for parts and such. Anyone ordered from it? Good site?

I'm also wondering this, because holyshitgoodprices.

I know this is old, but Lonex does stuff that most good guns techs do. Machining V2 and V3 shells to fit things like 8-7mm bearings Bearings. Upgrade motors, gears, pistons and other pieces to bigger and more air compression generating components to get the most out of your gear box. Without going to far over a stock component and the best part they do it right from factory.. and sell each piece individually or as entire assembled gear box, so you can literally just break down the gun and swap the Gearbox..


Or if your a good gear head :P swap each parts as you break them.. However they are not the best for overall cranking Fps out of your gun that's Madbulls and a few other parts manufactures department. However I would still give it to Lonex because they tend to keep your gun field legal.

Don't get me wrong either, there are some things tho from madbull I like, that just give you more battery life and protect parts from strain ... like these babies.

http://madbull.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=21_42

and barrels that help increase accuracy.

I'm in agreement. I have swapped out everything inside my WE M4 AEG with: Lonex high speed/torque motor, Lonex gear set, Lonex piston/piston head + a sorbo pad, and Lonex TBB. Am in the process of installing a Modify Accurate hop up ATM (some machining to do). Even without the upgraded hop-up, this gun is a masher.

I got one sitting in a box for two weeks now, too lazy to install in my RDW =S

umm....

Wow necro post. But here goes.
They can crank crazy fps and crazy rof out of their parts just the complete boxes that are sold round here are mostly in the field friendly fps ranges because lets face it how many folks wanna buy a drop in box with a 150 spring in it? Noone and someone who is after that most likely has the know jow to swap a spring. Those buyin a drop in box want it easy peasy.
So youll see the 100 and 120 complete boxes more often then 150.
Their gears and motors are strong and ive heard of them running up to 190 springs no problem. Their cylender and piston parts work great together for sweet airseal and smooth operation those wouod be key in building big fps if you think about it. No knocking madbull parts just sayin lonex builds are just as capeable of big fps setups. To the OP grab a lonex drop in box you wont be dissapointed. Grab one of their sexy motors to go with it youll love that too.

OP has been using Lonex parts for a long time now :p

Figured after i seen how old the original post lol. Too late for reading date apparently. So i spose you love em like the rest of us?

TBH I think Lonex parts are great for the price, but their QC doesn't seem to be on the same level as other brands like Modify and Prometheus. Every Modify or Prometheus part I've ever seen/used has been flawless and indestructible, in fact I've never managed to break a Modify or Prometheus part. Although I've never had a Lonex part outright fail on me, of the two Lonex 16:1 gearsets that have passed through my hands both have been flawed out of the box. One had four hairline cracks on the sector gear from someone hammering the shaft in, the other had a slightly bent gearshaft on the spur gear. When you don't get a lemon though, the parts are solid.

Don't even put Prometheus on the same level as Modify. Please. Don't get me wrong, Modify has great packaging, great marketing and their products are well, "good enough", but if you want to push beyond 400fps/30rps, nope.

Just going to put this out there, but...do you think it's coincidence that Lonex is one of the #1 trusted internals brands on Airsoft Mechanics? Now you won't suppose that those guys, and myself, would know anything about that ?

^Nuff said.

I still use a lot of lonex components, I just wasn't particularly impressed with getting two fudged gear sets in a row when every modify part I've used has been fine.

That's unfortunate. Did you get them from us?

I would like to add that it is possible that you got counterfite lonex parts depending from where you bought them.
Tho i havent heard of an influx of fake lonex goods i know i havent seen or heard of many "defdctive" or crappy lonex goods in my readings i do know as an example there are a buttload (or where at least) of phony mag brand mags on the market if you buy real mag brand mags they still come with a warning msg in them showing the minor diferences in packaging and the product itself so anything could be cloned and even packaged the same and sold ad genuine product when it isnt.

Nope I got them when I stopped by at Duy's place. Would have gotten them from you if you guys did local pick up *cough*

or like scarborough's store no tax if you pay in person with cash *cough* ;)

You should probably swing by and get some replacements then.

Not really into:
* tax evasion /getting audited by CRA (if you've ever been audited, you'll know why)
* inventory/accounting nightmare
* having people come to my house; OR
* hanging out in chinese mall on saturdays/sundays (I'd rather be playing and besides, if I did that, we wouldn't be able to have shootouts at Waterdown. :)

Definitely will when I have monies lying around

don't listen to him! he'll make you poor like he did me =D

No, I mean get the bad gears replaced at where you got them from...

But sure, if you want to buy new ones...

Well what happened was the first set had the cracks and the replacement set had the bent shaft lol. I'm not going to bother him to get t replaced because he told me to take a close look at the gear set an make sure it's good before I left. I bend was small enough for me to not notice until I started shimming the gears.

Damn I thought you were saying you'd do local pickups lol

Go to games and we will be there. The pick up option will magically appear at check out.

Before Stephen decides to volunteer me for anything I better say something.

Frankly I love you guys and all, but I work 9-5 and the last thing I want to worry about is an after work appointment with a customer. I'll be cranky, tired, and you really won't get the best service from me after a long days work.

I try to ship things ASAP and I don't think I've ever had longer than a 48 hour turnaround. Those who picked up on my schedule know that if you order by 7pm it'll pretty much get shipped next day.

John

Swap the bent shaft off another stock gear. It'll work fine.

Haha since we are talking about Lonex internals....

I recently bought a Lonex S120 gearbox. Sorbo pads installed by Airsoft Store, re-wired in advanced mode to the Merc 3.2...

So I've got pretty much two problems/issues, not sure if anyone has experienced this, and fixed it... (1 fixed I guess)

1. Lonex Tappet Plate (FIXED by using a modified tappet plate)
A little off length-wise, bb's do not feed due to the nozzle not able to be retracted enough.
- Stealth told me it does not work with some hop-ups (did not work with my Lonex, G&P, KA, and even my transparent DBOYS hopups)
- Modified a Modify Tappet Plate, and that fixed it...

2. BB Not being pushed past Hop-Up Rubber after first shot after assembly.
Second problem is where the BB's enter the Lonex Hopup Unit, however the lonex gearbox somehow is not able to push the bb's past the hopup rubber after the first shot everytime right after I put it back together...
- Using O-Rings to push the hopup unit right against the gearbox to prevent air leaks. (First shot is always very close to 429 FPS (Varies mostly between 428-428.9 FPS).
- Only problem is when I drop a second bb in, it won't shoot the second bb until I remove the upper and put it back again lol... (I'm doing this upside down without a mag in to negate mag feeding problems...)
- BB falls all the way in when I drop one down the hopup chamber, it just won't move past the hopup rubber lips, not sure why T_T

What I'm Using
- G&P Magpul Lower
- G&P VLTOR Upper
- Madbull Outer Barrel 14.5"
- Lonex Hop-Up Unit (Used other hopup units such as KA, G&P, DBOYS, SRC)
- R-hopped Prommy 455mm barrel (Used other non r-hopped barrels to test too, Angry Gun, Madbull, Lonex, Various Brass)
- Merc 3.2 installed advanced mode.
- Very strong magnet ACM neodymium motor (Much stronger than my Lonex A1 motor)
- 7.4v lipo (various, mainly use my Nano-tech 3300 mah 35-70C lipo discharge to test)

I've been running a lonex m4 for a while now so I'll add what I can to this thread. First off I'm very impressed with their attention to detail.

AOE was as good as could be out of the box. Gears were shimmed very well. Shaved tooth on the piston was a nice touch. Mechbox shows all the right signs, reinforced in areas of potential failure. Their rear wiring/buffer tube is probably the best design out there to avoid wire pinches, a proper channel down a tube that the buffer screws on to.

Things to note:
It only accepts buffer tube sling mounts that are for GBB/real steel. The RIS has some play but can be tightened with an Allen key.

I've heard of it being done, but how do you do it?

Should that tappet plate fix always happen on a lonex box? or is it just a lemon sort of thing

If you're not having feeding issues then there's no problem.

From my understanding, the tappet plate is a few MM too long. The sector gear nub doesn't pull it back far enough for the nozzle to clear the feed hole. As a result BBs don't get pushed up and chambered into the hop up unit.

There are two fixes:
1. Get a new tappet plate for 4 bucks. Take it to town with a dremel as the Lonex box requires cut puts.

2. Get a bigger sector gear clip that looks like a giant bean. I think JG ones are like this. It's also possible to make your own.

I emailed Lonex about issue #1 last night. Will keep you all posted.

Regarding issue #2, what hop up rubber are you using?

Also, how tight of a fit is it between the rubber and the unit? If you need to force the unit onto the barrel, it may deform the rubber and stretch/bunch up the feed lips.

Unfortunately, if its too loose you get air leaks. You need a balance, floss, or Teflon tape.

Hey :D

For # 1, I tried putting back the Lonex tappet plate for fun just in case it wasn't the issue, but I got the feeding problem right away again.

Like you said, compared side by side, it is about a mm further away where it touches the sector gear. (It is actually the same length, but the triangle part is smaller... I use a sector delay clip and it still didn't fix it, so I went back to my modified tappet plate).
- The review you made on the Lonex Gearbox said there was a metal sector delay clip installed on new ones, I guess mine is part of the older stock? No big deal, since I prefer the plastic ones (have some in my *toolbox* anyways).


#2, ya I'm thinking maybe it's my rubber... Last night I got it working with one of my plastic hop-up units. But realised it was super late and had to sleep since I go to work early :D
- Was using a modify hop-up rubber (two ribs, took out the mound). The lips looked round when using a flashlight to see, but maybe it got pushed/moved when. Should be an easy fix, worst case I have a big supply of hard Guarder rubbers to use lol... (Used the modify rubber since it felt nicer, and I don't have many soft Guarders available :D)
- The rubber fit onto the barrel is pretty snug (Prommy bears are pretty thick to begin with compared to stuff like Madbull barrels I think), so might have got twisted/moved... I try not to use too much grease when sliding it into the hopup unit with it on T_T

*Will try re-positioning hopup rubber first :D, hopefully it's not the positioning of the hopup unit in the body :D*

I had a similar feeding issues with the gearbox, a modified G&G tappet plate fixed the problem.

When you have the chamber and barrel together, do BB's go past the lips of the hop rubber with minimal force?

Lonex stopped supplying sector delay clips in their boxes but once upon a time maybe 4 shipments ago all of the boxes had them.

Unless you're pushing 30RPS you don't really need one. We've survived the entire TM era without one, and the design hasn't changed.

^ yes
one can't argue that it prolongs the life of the tappet plate either, cause honestly, how often does a good aftermarket tappet plate break when it's installed properly?

I bought a few Lonex upgrades for my G&G M14, which included:
-Lonex M14 (Classic Army/G&G) Air Seal nozzle
-Lonex Aluminum Cylinder Head for Ver.7 CA/G&G M14
-Lonex POM Ventilated Piston Head
-Lonex Enhanced Hop-Up CA/G&G M14

The Nozzle, Cylinder Head and Piston Head are all pretty good upgrades. The Hop-up on the other hand, I found performed worse than the stock G&G unit. The Lonex hop up arm has a lot more play than the G&G.

A few weeks back one of the guys here had the front end come off his V2 mechbox in his stock G&G MAX MP5 (spring was changed when he first got it and was shooting in the 400-410fps range). He had used it for the last 3 years and had around 60,000 rounds through it with no issues (We play a lot and we shoot a lot).

As the resident gun doc I reccommended the Lonex V2 mechbox because of my experience with their other upgrade parts (impressed for the most part) and because of on-line reviews. The mechbox is very very nice! Well made with tight tolerances. Thickened portion at the front along the top is substantial. I happily move the internals over (clean, reshim gears, regrease) from the broken G&G mechbox. So far, so good. Putting the mechbox back into the gun it does not fit... Well not with the fake bolt mechanism working the way it is suppossed to.

After an hour and a half of filing/sanding both the top of the mechbox and the flanges of the fake bolt everything fits and functions as it should. The Lonex mechbox still has way more material holding the front on than the G&G one did.

Going to install a Lonex G36 hop-up on my sones Umarex G36KV tomorrow...

<3. Strong, reliable & Field Legal.. vs... you know 550+ fps AEG and so on when a gun is set up right..... that's what I mean.. Lonex is a good company that gets there "drop in boxes" up into the 400's easy and they sell everything individually too.. Inculding upgrade springs just like Madbull :D That's why I like them, they have everything!

but...... on somethings, like springs and gears, bearings, rams, piston heads, motors and cylinders. There is a few other places I will go to get them. If I am making something that cranks out FPS to target shoot... That's my personal preference and you can call it shit opinion.. :P... but that's where I will go..... but my stand point still is. If you can't use it to play, what is the point..... Go GAS!

Now if am making something to play on field.. yes.. Lonex, all day. Everyday. <3!

That is what I meant, in my first post on this thread.

you two totally should get separate accounts by now... hard to figure out who I'm talking to sometimes. :p

I have some lonex parts in my M14. They're fantastic for the price. I don't have any experience with barrels or motors, but I recommend their spring guide and cylinder heads.