Age Verifier Issue
 

Alright, I made a topic about this previously, but I figure I'll give it another try.

I airsoft occasionally with a group of people in the Sault Ste Marie area. The group I play with has 20+ members (I'm not sure, exactly, I've never counted) and we play regularly on private property owned by one of our members outside of the city limits. Beyond selling guns to one another and buying from overpriced retailers (such as Buyairsoft) we're not able to access the huge advantage which is ASC's private forums.

I joined this site years ago, and beyond being underage myself at the time(2004), but the issue stands. There is not anybody within a reasonable distance for myself (or anybody from our community) to visit to verify us of being of age.

I do not believe that anybody in our community has yet been verified. I would like a moderators opinion or comment on this.

(And before anybody looks up the Age Verifier information and says "TheFranchise"- he has not airsofted in at least 4 years, and its my understanding that he doesn't even live in this city any longer.)

((Also, who should I PM if I want to change my account-name?))

Yeah, How am I supposed to get age verified?? The closest person to me is hundreds of miles away. Why can't this be done over Skype???

Where do you live?

Last I checked we use KM's not miles, and the reasons relate to quality of video, and crappy feed can distort the picture and it can be very hard to get a accurate picture of either your ID and your face to confirm your age.

not to mention its easier to fake id over a video then it is in person.

What are your locations? giving us those would help greatly.

and the issue of verifiers being far away has been brought up many a time.
your best bet is to find the closest verifier and meet halfway. or
make a trip into the city and meet one there

Though we're less archaic than our southern neighbor, consider this...

I usually express my physical measurements in imperial (6'5", 240 pounds, 38 waist, size 14 shoes etc).

I use both systems for cooking measurements, with a particular emphasis on gallons since I super sized a couple of recipes recently.

At a bar I usually order either a pint or a dram.

I also began to submit travel expenses in furlongs for shits and giggles.

Imperial, although inferior to metric, will stick around forever for some measures because they are sometimes more intuitive or deeply rooted in tradition.

Back to the main subject, you need to meet in person with someone, state your region so we may help you find the closest rep.

-Sault Ste. Marie-

Brian (TheFranchise)


as for name changes.... you can't you are stuck with it

According to post 1 last modified on the 22nd of November "thefranchise" is not an option Ritz.


**Edit** I'd recommend the Thunder bay guys at this point

Thunder bay is quite the distance away. On a good day, that's something like a 9 hour trip, on a bad, as high as 13. It isn't like in southern ontario where a 2 hour~ is drive is considered far- or where the major issue is traffic. This is a 700~ km trip around lake superior I'd have to take.

I'll jump through hoops to get AVed, if possible. I'd love to have someone get back to me with something a little better than that.

People who aren't Av-ed get disrespected on these forums and treated like a leper. We're not allowed to buy or sell. It is obnoxious that I cannot get some kind of workaround.

And thanks, Zeon, for actually reading my post. RITZ, it is my understanding that the franchise sold his guns about... 3-4 years ago, and I believe he moved away. Perhaps next time you can actually read my introduction post.

I also love how everybody jumped to help the other guy- when I clearly stated my problem and nobody responded to me for days.

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I've done due dilligance on this topic. I also messaged "Redneck" who states that he travels to the Sault Area. Another negative.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...?t=4947&page=9 The last post states that he doesn't AV anymore and his profile says that he hasn't airsofted "In years"

Then I guess you are up shit creek.

If it was me, I'd take the drive. I'm sure where you live is lacking in other amenities also that have folks traveling out of town too. But maybe I'm wrong and an ASC age verifier is the only thing that burg is missing.

How about this, organize a game, put out the invite to a few folks who are age verifiers in outside your area and tell them your group will bring him out for the day; pay for his fuel and meals, have him at a game so he can see you're not a bunch of twats and then he'll feel comfortable AV'ing the folks in the group who are over 18.

No, this is basically bullshit. I refuse to believe that the only option is "up shit creek."

Sadly, I won't be going home this year for Christmas (I'm from Sault Ste. Marie) so I won't be able to do it, but there HAS to be someone in that region that is trustworthy enough to get as a verifier.

Thunder Bay is NOT an option. That drive is 600km+ away from Goulais. I wouldn't ask anyone to do it.

I'm sure something can be worked out with a player local to SSM.

I believe there was someone in northbay... which is slightly closer.

I go by what lists are available. The mods are usually pretty good about removing old stats in important thread so i'm surprised the franchise is still there if your information is correct.

Also threads get buried and forgotten quite quickly, unless somebody is looking specifically for something some threads can go unanswered for weeks and months at a time. the reason why we all jumped to help the other guy out is he is the most recent poster.

HAH no.... those threads are very old. I was an AVer for over a year before the list was updated to put me in it, and finially get the old AVer for my region who had not been active on the site for many years off of it.

1. For a number of reasons, AVs are to be done in person only. There's no exception to this, sorry;

2. The network of verifiers is based on trust: to make someone a verifier, we have to know/trust them, or have people we trust vouch for them. So it's not as simple as just assigning a verifier;

3. Not sure how the nearest verifier is 13 hours away; that's about what it would take me to get to SSM from Montreal?


The suggestion of getting a verifier to come out to your events is probably the best one, unless you all wanna take a road trip to one of the major events or something, then you wouldn't be driving out just for the AV.

I realize the situation sucks for people out in remote areas, unfortunately the site and the AV system is run entirely by volunteers.

Im Currently looking for an Age Verifier In Manitoba In the city of Winnipeg... Any Age Verfiers in the Area?
I tried to do this last time but we never met, just phoned...

I have also contacted 2 verifiers local to me and not one has replied? Anyone in GTA? Im in Keswick Ont.

Army Issue in Mississauga....

We have 3 active people in Manitoba that can verify, I am actually meeting up with one on Tuesday. A Simple search on the sight would have gotten you the same amount of information...

Guys, no offense, but please make your own topics about AV, I want this thread to stay on topic.



Like I said, I'll jump through hoops- I'd love to contact the head of ASC if possible. Who could I contact for this? Like I said, we've got a fairly large community of mature players in the 18-30 range and none of us are age verified- due to the fact that there isn't anybody local.

Well, Sault Ste Marie to Thunder Bay is shitty- the roads are narrow and the highway is 2 lane and slow. 80 and under, usually. You travel through a lot of small towns and it's also snowing rather heavily at this point. It takes just about as long to get to Thunder Bay as it does Ottawa (9-13 hours, depending on traffic, weather, stops and such), so I think it's sort of out of the question.

This is the main reason why none of the people in our locale use this site. Doing a quick check on our private facebook group, I notice 73 players. Of those, probably 20-30 are active and attend at least 1 game a month. We play bi-monthly.

30 guys chip in gas money and bus one of the verifiers from the surrounding area in for a game day.

The owners are a reclusive bunch nowadays, as far as admins Drake is aware of the situation and is IMHO the most active staff member around.

Pretty sure there are known players in Sudbury, Wilson comes to mind, though he seems to have moved in the States.

Talk to Drake about nominating a trusted local player, find candidates in your region.

I waited 2 years and drove 1600km's to meet my verifier. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do...

If we could get a sudbury guy, I'd drive to sudbury. That's not that awful of a drive. Maybe we could get them to come here.

I'd highly doubt any AVers would come to Sault Ste. Marie (from Thunder Bay or farther), even with the offer of free gas and lodging.

Summer maybe but winter no. But if any of your crew ever make it up to T-Bay I will get you AV'd. I don't know if it would be possible but if so I could AV one of your long time members and do a sort of interview for making them an age verifier and submit my opinion to the mods.

Hate so sound rude here but buck up.

You're saying your willing to jump threw hoops to get AV'd. Then right after you start making excuses as to why you wont make the long drive. Yes I get it, the roads suck, the distance is terrible.

Personally I wouldn't even meet you half way due to my own experiences with people screwing me over after a 700k drive then showing up with a face ID or bailing completely.

That being said the system is non negotiable. I highly doubt the staff will accept video of ID any time soon for many reasons. I see it very simple. If your not willing to come out to get AV at a distance like that then your probably never going to make it out to large games that require travel. Very few of the people that are not willing to do some have lasted more then a year that Ive seen.

So basically, deal with the issue like a man and make the drive or continue to plan on what you called private lands outside of city limits and limit yourself.

Your call.

That would be ideal. Perhaps someone from Sudbury can be elected as a age verifier, as I know there is a fairly large number of players from there.

I plan on remaining active on the ASC forums from now on so I will be around.

I also could meet you halfway? Uh... Marathon?

Me too lol

I'm in the same boat as Toadhound. I might be willing to do that but I wouldn't want to drive 14 hours in one day and it's a bit late in the season to be camping or sleeping in the back of my truck, specially up North.

If you can wait until around March, you could come down to TAC and get AVed while purchasing some goodies, there will be at least one AVer there.

Dose anyone know of an age verifier that go's to Sudbury Ont?
I would be willing to drive to Northbay if need be.

Pm some of the locals and check if any are heading up for. Christmas

Go here ! i Went in took 5 minutes.. Stores full of great stuff too well worth the look.... right next to a burrioto boys too so grab lunch while your out there lol.

testing 1...2...3... if that verifier administrator processed my age info...

AVs are up to date and processed within a few days; your info was not submitted.

Who verified you?