Having trouble decided on appropriate starting gear for a g36 user.
 

Greetings reader! Excuse the mistake in the title please. I have recently acquired an AEG g36 and I'm in need of your undoubtedly sage advice. You see, I need 5 more magazines and somewhere to keep them on my body as well as a place to discard them.
In a perfect world I would use my 5 newly acquired magazines in combination with the one I already own and create from this collection of 6, 3 double stacked magazines which I could then store individually in pouches. which I could then store on a vest.
So what I'm asking for is :
1. What magazines should I buy ( I'm looking for mid caps )
2. What pouches should I buy to hold double stacked g36 mags?
3. What vest should I buy to hold these pouches
4. Where can one find all 3 of these elements from one seller? This is perhaps the thing I am having the greatest difficulty with, finding a seller for all 3.

Edit : Added #4
I am on a relatively low budget ( ~100 dollars ) but I'm ok with buying these things in pieces.

Thank you in advance for any advice

1. Something like MAG brand midcaps would work well.

2. You would need to get triple deep M4 pouches, or pouches specifically made to fit 2x G36 mags.

3. A good MOLLE covered vest. Don't buy a crappy one with holster and random pouches that you can't change. Buy a modular vest and moldular pouches and you can set it up how you want. Buy a good brand like FLYYE or Pantac and it will last forever.

The vest will could cost you $80-$100 alone, so you better raise your budget.
You probably also want a dump pouch of some sort.

Where would you suggest acquiring such thing? I've scoured the internet but I am having a lot of trouble finding a place which holds the combination of magazines pouches and vest that I desire. It always seems like one element of the trifecta is missing.

Ritz don't be a dick. This is the newbie tank.


DietCoke:
www.ehobbyasia.com

I'm not being a dick. You need to lighten up.
If I was being a dick I'd just come in here and flame him and not give him any advice.

Mags are going to be tough, you're going to have to buy them in country as G36 mags have fake bullets in them and won't pass through customs.
Airsoftparts.ca Is a great place for mags and parts in country.

As for a vest, there are many types of molle vests.
Tac vest, chest rig, Ciras, Plate carriers.
Find one that you like, stay away from Condor brand as it isnt known to be of the best quality

I have already googled that extensively R.I.T.Z. Unfortunately the fact that I do not know exactly what I'm looking in terms of vests and pouches renders the evaluation of the data given to me by google more difficult.

Styrak thank you very much, I'm afraid I've already made a cart at ehobbyasia which totalled with shipping to about 360$. I was asking more to see if there were somewhere within canada that I could support which could provide me with the benefits ehobbyasia does.

If you're ordering a bunch of stuff like that, it usually pays to shop at a place like EhobbyAsia, as they are one of if not THE largest online airsoft retailer.

Molle vests come in a variety of shapes sizes and styles, you just have to pick one that you find interesting.

Unfortunatly we can only help you so far as the majority of websites we know sell Airsoft guns as well as gear.
You're best bet would be to get age verified and go into the "age restricted" portion of the forum as there are a few websites in there.

I have broken a bunch of tabs on my g36 mags and stopped clipping them together...they all broke with 1 mag in the gun and the other fell to the ground with a broken tab:(. I have given up on those and bought a mag well conversion by battleaxe. It allows you to run regular m4 mags, although it doesn't look as nice. This also opens up your options as far as pouches go because every gear manufacturer makes multiple styles of pouches for those mags

Check out Airsoftdepot.ca he has a pretty good selection of gear and parts.

Gettingshot, do you think that is an inherent design issue or more of an issue regarding the quality of the magazine you bought?

its a common issue, I think even the real ones break off, or are removed

I've heard it is common, but didn't know about it until after I bought the mags. I'm sure wrapping some tape around the mags when they are connected would help prevent this but I gave up and went the m4 mag route because the look didn't bother me and the endless options for storage was appealing

got my vest from the Park, had to do a minor mod to make it more durable but it holds 6 single G36 mags w/ tabs intact very tightly and 5 decently, the Tacos are pretty good for single g36 mags too if you buy just a molle vest...or do what i did...4 mags in the m4 pouches, 2 in tacos on molle front

http://www.airsoftpark.com/molle-hyd...al-p-2317.html
natively can hold 12x M4 mags in its 6x double mag pouches
also comes with slot to put hydration pack in the back :)

My other config is to run 2 mags on 2x tacos on my belt, currently have 6 mags but gonna move that up to 8 next season(running GBBR w/ real caps....6 mid caps is a lot of rounds already)
Also run a dump pouch on my belt and use them only when having to reload under fire, if not I just put it back in my vent as I like to leave one pouch empty to drop an empty in

Double stacking g36 mags will be hard to find a pouch for them, I'm actually thinking of removing all my tabs to make the mags easier to insert and remove. What brand are you running? Any G36 AEG mid caps should be fine anyways and many in country retailers sell them already.

Sorry if someone suggested this already but you could use a magwell adaptor, your current M4 mags and a regular vest ou mag pouch to hold them. Hope this helps.

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/battleaxe...eries-aeg.html

BATTLEAXE M4 Magazine Adaptor for G36 Series AEG Airsoft Club Review - YouTube

Thank you for the magwell adapter suggestion but I have been a g36 love for years and their magazine look is one of the reasons I picked them.

I think for the time being I'm going to go with a triple ak pouch on a molle vest.

That works.

I am using a magwell adapter on my G36C to allow sharing magazines with my M4A1, and using the mag-pouches for my M4.
I used a UFC adapter on my TM G36C, and there is a feeding issue, which can be solved by either put 0.5mm thick tape "padding" between the gearbox and the hop-up unit, or filing down the air nozzel a little bit.
Not sure if my air nozzel is too long or it is the adapter.

Long time G36 user here.

My vest is a Tactical Tailor two-piece MAV with X-harness, ordered from Dave's Surplus in BC.

My pouches are double M16 mag pouches, also from Tactical Tailor via Dave's Surplus. I carry six 50-round G36 mags on me (one per pouch) for a total of 300 rounds.

I have ZERO issue getting the mags in and out of the double mag pouches. Zero snagging and the pouches maintain their shape (if you store the mags in them) well enough to easily get an empty mag back in. Going to those pouches cut my reload time by more than half.

Now, about mags...

I have yet to use a G36 midcap that didn't suck donky dick. The MAG ones are terrible if you load them up with more than 60-70 rounds and the tabs break really easily. You so much as sneeze on them and they jizz out their load of BB's.

The KA ones are really good quality, but don't actually FIT into any of my G36's (of which I have 3, by 3 different manufactures).

The most flawlwss G36 mags I found (for functionality) are Classic Army 50-round ones. Never had a misfeed with any of them in over 5 years of use.

Second best would be the King Arms 50-round mags (ones with the fake bullets). They fit very tight but are very good quality. They're the only G36 mags I have that still have all their tabs.

Third is the DBoys 50-rounders. They're cheap ($17), look decent, and I haven't had any issue with them yet. They do feel cheaper though and probably won't last as long as the KA and CA mags.

About using your mags clamped together: I've found the drawbacks outweigh the benefits. It looks cool, but you're basically gaining on very quick mag swap and one much longer one (when you have to swap the clamped mags out). When I ran clamped mags I always taped them together. The tabs aren't reliable. Two clamped midcaps is 2/3 of my total ammo capacity, so depending on your loadout and how you play, YMMV.

I've tried two different magwell adapters on 3 different guns and with 3 different brands of M16 mags, and none of them fed reliably enough for gaming.

That, and you can't say the fake bullet mags don't look totally bitchn'

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...irsoft/sl8.jpg

g36 specific pouches are available at ehobbyasia flyye single g36 mag pouch and tactical tailor g36 mag pouch... 20-30-33$ each, you will need 3... which will allow you to carry 6 mags +1 in the gun.

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/catalogse...g36+pouch&cat=

They are indeed a bit expensive, but if you want to keep the mags, you will have to pay the price. Those pouches are made specifically for the larger g36 mags, and you don't have to compromise with double ak pouches or triple m4 pouches.

Your other option is using magpul g36 pmags, they fit in m14 mag pouches, or very tightly into m4 mag pouches.

I haven't found many G36 mag pouches that don't snag. Went with the M4 pouches because the extra room around the mags was more than enough to clear the tabs.

a good alternative to the bullet mags are magpul pmags for the g36 ( not m4 ones) i have some and they feed flawlessly, and are a tiny bit thinner with no tabs.


i would even go so far as to say they are as good as the classic army bullet mags.

I have this:
http://www.asmc.de/en/Weapons/Airsof...ecktarn-p.html

You can put 2 G36 mags clipped together into each pouch and they will not snag on the way out. Each pouch can fit atleast 4 M4/M16 metal mags.

If you're looking for a place to put your used mags, a dump pouch hanging off your belt is a beautiful thing.

Of course, it starts swinging around, and the mags clank together if you start bouncing.
It is worth looking for pouches that you can put mags back in (either for doing a tactical reload, where you still have a few rounds in your mags, or for just keeping empty mags tight to your body), but it's always good to have a dump pouch to speed up your reloads, since you can't just be dropping your mags on the ground when you don't want to fiddle with getting a mag back in your vest.

I use a dump pouch as a 3rd hand... the empty mags never stay in there long... empty mags get put back in the farthest pouches from the left (I'm a right handed shooter) so full mags keep getting cycled to the left on my walk to respawn.

This even includes tac reloaded mags, if they have a few rounds left, they get cycled ahead of the empty mags, but since I use a p90, I can see the status of the mag in my gun. I've also left the tac reloaded mag in the pouch and empty ones get cycled to right most pouches, this way I know which mag is not a full load.

Thanks for the all the replies guys. kalnaren is that a g36 modified to an sl8? If so did you use a kit to do so and how difficult was the work?
I went on to evike and am thinking of getting this set of gear. It fits within my budget and apparently the triple Ak pouches and fit two g36s if you remove the middle divider. What do you guys think of this setup for a beginner?
1 x ARES / UFC 140 Round Mid-cap Magazine For G36 / MK36 Series Airsoft AEG (Box Set of 5) $50.00
1 x Condor Gen.4 Tactical MOLLE OPS Chest Rig - Black $25.95
1 x Condor MOLLE Triple AR / AK Magazine Pouch - Black $19.00

I've considered a dump pouch, but I have a really slender frame and don't have much available real-estate to put pouches.

That one is actually an ARES SL8, purpose built. I have a STAR SL9 conversion kit kicking around I used to have on my CA G36. It's involved to do the conversion, I wouldn't try it if you don't know your way around the G36. It's not hard per se but quite possible to miss something important. I'm probably going to put it on a G36C eventually.

(STAR conversion kit on my Classic Army G36 with M4 magwell conversion. Never did get it to feed properly)
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u.../slawesome.jpg

Also, DO NOT ORDER ANYTHING FROM EVIKE if you're in Canada. Ever. They screw international customers HARD.

Could you elaborate on how? I'll take your advice but I would like to increase my knowledge repository in the process. Would ehobbyasia be a viable alternative?

Not to turn this into a dump pouch discussion, but I want to clarify that I hang an open-top dump pouch off my belt, on my rear left, free hanging. You can get leg drop dump pouches as well, if you wanted it snug against your body.

If you have an open pouch on your vest, things might come falling out if you bend over. If you have a dump pouch that zips/velcros up, then you're wasting time opening the pouch, when you should just be dropping your mag in. Lastly, if the pouch is on your chest, then it's just going to get in the way, or be awkwardly high up.

what brand is your g36? This actually is important and I forgot to ask and not sure if it was answered or not...

ares g36s like ares mags... I've spoken to a few owners that say other mags tend not to stay in the magwell or fit well. We know that g36 pmags fit nicely though, we tried some of my mags in some ares guns. non ares mags were reported to be loose in ares guns.

If you have a non ares g36, it might be better to get any other brand of magazine, since the fit might be that much different. It could be that they will fit too tight, or they are shaped slightly different and might not feed well.


Also.. don't order from evike. Aside from screwing up the order, they will charge you ridiculous amounts to ship your product. There are far more reputable local canadian dealers that sell condor gear that I would much rather give money to, even if the prices are a bit higher.

The are also better US condor dealers than evike.

I've got a JG g36c, lurkingknight. I don't have any issue supporting local sellers, it's just that I'm having trouble finding all the stuff I need within Canada whilst also being relatively affordable to me.

Evike won't end up being any more affordable.

Where abouts are you located? If you're not sure what kind of vest you'll want to get, it would be good to try on a few different styles, if you're near a physical store.

There's lots of different styles, from just a chest rig, to a little crossdraw vest, to a thin plate carrier, to a thicker kevlar-vest style (for lack of a better way to describe it), to a full blown, padded-out, plate carrier, like a CIRAS.

Try out different ones, and see how your mobility is, how comfortable it is, how good the stitching is, etc. If you're going to be playing a lot of indoor, a simple and maneuverable chest rig might be all you want. If you're going to be outdoor in the winter, you might enjoy the added warmth of a thicker plate carrier.

Evike will end up charging you 80$ to ship something. They make you pay for the order before even doing a shipping quote. Hero army surplus in oshawa has always given me good service. toronto airsoft has also started carrying some condor products as well.

A full blown molle rig is going to be more expensive than a presetup vest, but unfortunately you have a g36 so the preconfigured m4 vests won't fit the mags. Save up more, get AVed if you can since some rigs and pouches do come up for sale every now and then on the classifieds... I think you'll need a bit more than 100$ for mags and tac rig.

Theses guy's usually have the best price and a good selection in stock:

http://www.surpluspontrouge.com/en/home/

Unless Hero in Oshawa is under new management I wouldn't go there either. It's one of the only retailers for anything I've ever been in where the sales staff blatantly lied to my face.

A vest off ehobby will be cheap. I can't stress enough the importance of not buying a cheap vest. Cheap vest rip, break, are uncomfortable, and generally just of such poor quality they're not worth the money -not when you could have doubled your budget and gotten a ten-times better product.

If you haven't budgeted around $600-$800 for your kit (including gun), or $400-ish not including the gun, you're probably looking too cheap for new stuff and should start looking in the ASC classifieds and get in touch with local players to see if they have something they can sell you.

$400 will get you boots, vest, eye protection, and a good charger, if you shop smart.

So after taking look at all the advice I see what you guys mean. I think I'm just going to buy the mags I need for now and hold off until later for the rest of the gear. Thanks for your advice on how to approach this as well as the suggestions of where to buy from. I'll continue scouring the sites whilst I save up.

Actually in a CQB or indoor (read URBAN) area you want the plate carrier (but chest rigs aren't bad cause BB's don't actually kill you) and you want the lighter chest rigs for outdoor (read forest).

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=58784
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=134951
2 Great threads for your pleasure!

Remember K-factor, if your going prone a plate carriers extra few inches make it harder to go prone.

Me and my team have probably given hero 6+k worth of business in the last year without issue mostly from weborder. I'm not sure what to tell you. We've been satisfied with their service.

I'm not going back... the rumors I am hearing a just too much to risk. No I'll stick my business some where else.

Same here...

Our entire team orders from there both in person at the store and on their website pretty much every month and we have never had a single problem. We've probably also spent a similar amount of money, several K, in that store. Not a single issue, not a single swindle, lie, delay, or anything. Instant shipping. In and out of the store.

We have absolutely no idea what Curo or kalnaren are talking about, and it's not the first time I've seen the complaints / rumours or mentions of supposed rumours. If you guys have a beef against this retailer, be specific...

We'd love to give our business to Beaver or Army Issue or whoever else but typically we're just going by what's available in the store (either web or physical) and Hero is typically stocked to the roof with stuff and everyone in our caravan leaves with something.

*edit* pm sent to maciek.

My only problem with Hero is I can't go in there without buying something lol

Do a search on the forum and have at 'er.

I've heard they've cleaned up their act, but frankly it doesn't matter. Was so sketch when I went in there I won't go in again, and I won't recommend them to anyone either.

Ah, thanks for clarifying. =)
I've never seen that second thread; it's a good read. Makes sense, too. I was going off the fact that I have a big ol' CIRAS, which I run around my house with, and I found it to be bulky as shit at the beginning.
I've gradually gotten used to maneuvering in it. I'll have to try it out indoors sometime.

When I first started I checked out the Gallery and Gear picture threads. See what other people are wearing; decide what you like or don't like. Also, decide how you want to wear it. Lots of folk go for a certain look/style. Currently I'm going for functional (as a newb myself) as I have no idea what kind of style I like or want yet.

http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=26553

I have these on a $40 condor chest rig. I removed the stitching on the middle inserts. Can fit either stacked side by side, or loose front to back. For running around and having fun this is all you really need. (a dump pouch will help since the velcro tabs are quite large on the pouches and can get in the way.)

evike is one of those sites you need to buddy up on shipping charges, and to be honest, sometimes it's worth to pay a little more for the chances that they are usually stocked on everything. plus they do have some pretty sweet sales, and discount codes on shipping/purchases. To each his own. At the very least it's a good resource to see what's available.

Recently the owner of a JG G36c myself, I've started to acquire some MAGPUL PMAG 30G (G36) mags. They feed flawlessly, look nice and are slimmer than the usual mags. Now, they aren't cheap (running around 30$ per mag) but it's a sure value.


http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/i...os/PMag30G.jpg


As for the rig itself, I'd suggest looking around everywhere and buy what you prefer the most. I've seen people swear by chest rigs, and I personally can't stand them. In the end, you could run on the field with all your mags in your pants, but it would not be effective. Find what you're the most comfortable with and buy this. Also, I highly suggest buying a MOLLE vest/plate carrier/chest rig and the appropriate pouches. More expensive but if one day you want to change your setup it's all modular.

$30 per mag for G36 mags IS cheap. CA and TM ones run $45-$60.

Actually, you're right, but the OP did said 100$ for the whole kit...