Propane in a SOCOM 1911
 

I'm a GBB noob. I have a new Socom Gear WE Full Metal Punisher 1911 on the way and I would like to use it with propane. I want to order an adaptor kit from AI but I remember some concerns with propane (or ProPAIN as i remember a few people calling it back in the day) that you needed to get a stronger slide and flow restrictor so as not to damage the gun internals.

Is this something I would have to worry about?

I've run this exact gun on propane with no issues.

only with japanese plastic guns do you need to take special precaution with propane
the WE 1911 will break all on its own, with or without propane

The WE 1911 will be fine with propane. Just don't let Nooblord touch it and it won't break.

unless you... fire it, or touch it, or try using it all, then itll break
eat my ass drake

and just to clarify, ive seen my share of we 1911s, they do break, and they are not good, the spring plugs and barrel bushing are notoriously weak, and the internals are also sub par quality, the hopup rubber is also very poor, it may break in 50 shots, or 5000 shots, but it WILL break

Been running my Punisher for 2 years on propane. Other than battle scars, upgrading the inner barrel and hop up rubber, it's been a worthy sidearm. Oh and the WE jewel fell out of the grip

Thanks for the help gang! (perhaps a little more ass eating than I was expecting). What about the KWA Mp7 GBB on proPAIN?

KWA internals are generally good quality, but their hopup rubbers and nozzles wear out/break after some time, but replacements are available and quite cheap

Are you saying the use of propane accelerates the wear of the KWA nozzles and rubbers as compares to running on green gas?

All guns will wear eventually. Its just a matter of time. I have had WE 1911s in the past that have had over 3000 rounds through them with no issues. Only thing about WE is the paint is usually shit.

Regarding KWA, I find the hop up buckings like to swell up over time. But thankfully they are like 5 dollars from KWA USA.

Jordan

propane and green gas are the same, propane will cause much more wear than DUSTER
like jordan said, the hopups on KWA like to swell up, and the nozzles are made of a very thin plastic and occasionally blow up

Your concerns are unwarranted. You're thinking of all-plastic and fragile WA guns which are meant to run on duster gas (lower pressure).

The first generation of 1911s, 4-5 years ago, had this problem; I have many posts/fixes to the problem. It's been fixed since. I've also had and fixed several WE 1911s and never had one break. They're actually quite robust. You, OTOH, have gone the opposite direction and destroyed a number of guns that were functional. So you should probably keep your "expert opinions" to yourself.



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Use your time away from the forum to learn how to install an anti reversal latch or something.

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But shhhhh dont tell Ex :popcorn:

I learned a lot from this thread...

This thread made my day. God I love ASC!

The ban hammer for the win.

Oooooohh Drake, that's bringing up some old history there...

he started it, bringing up ancient issues about first gen 1911s.

Two questions.

I'm curious what your opinion is on the plastic lowers on the WE 1911s that were sold in the GTA until recently. I'm still holding on to one I won in a charity raffle, and it actually had a fracture crack on the front of the lower frame right out of the box (sadly!), but is super satisfying to shoot... Is failure on the cansoft WEs inevitable, preventable... possibly overblown?

Secondly, I am very tempted to get my hands on some of these newly-imported "full metal" WE pistols, especially the hi-capa compatible ones, that have started to show up lately via the long-barrel trick... Do you think these are a decent investment at the current prices?

Do you mean Hicapa's? Or actual 1911's?

Plastic frames are fine in 1911's (TM's original design was made for plastic frame, metal rails), however plastic frames in Hicapas are not. Hicapas were never meant to have plastic frames, TM designed them with a metal frame.

But WE 1911s dont use the same design as the TM ones. The TM has an internal frame where all the internals rest, and where all the stress points are. The plastic frame is a low stree part.

On a WE the frame is where all the internals are. Its where the hammer and sear are mounted. Just like on the hi capas.

Just wanted to chime in my two cents...

I have a Socom Gear MEU (modern 1911), been gaming it for two years now and haven't had a single problem...in spite of it falling out of the holster at Rhino :-S

I would recommend it to any 1911 lover :)

I have a Socom Gear Wilson CQB etc. so your basic single stack 1911 built by WE.

3 years on it and while its paint rubs off with a hard look it still shoots great, mags have never leaked and it has a very nice crisp trigger.

Thanks, this clears up some of my confusion.