Tips to choose a good pistol
 

Hello everybody !

I just ordered my KWA MP7 GBB about 4 days ago, and now i'm wondering which pistol i should get.

I know there's several experienced player on this forum that could help me to find my need.

Well, i was splitted a lil bit within two options.

First, i was looking for a P226, a Glock 18C or a 1911. Full metal if possible, and new, considering i never upgraded or disasembled a gun before. Knowing this, i didn't know what brand i should choose.

And second, i plan to maybe play sometime when it's cold, like at winter or whatever. I've heard that CO2 is less affected by temperature and is more consistant on velocity. So should i buy a CO2 or a Green Gaz/Propane version of pistol. My MP7 is Green gaz, anyway i plan to buy a AEG for winter. But for pistol, what would be the best option ? And which brand ?

Hope you will be able to guide me a lil bit ! Thanks !

For P226, good options are KJW, TM, or KWA.
For G18C good options are TM or KSC/KWA.
For a 1911 good options are TM, KJW, or KWA.

Tip #1: Buy KSC.
Tip #2: There is no Tip #2.

When looking at this, it remains almost the same in term of brand. Hmmmmm !

Someone told me on this forum that KSC G18C are discontinued, so they are hard to find. And pieces for repairs and upgrade hard to find too and expensive.

TM, i know they are really good gun but, they're all plastic. And they need to be upgraded because their fps are low out of the box.

Tips 2 was about CO2 or Green Gaz, lol

No, KSC/KWA parts are easily available from the KWA USA Pro Shop. They sell all common replacement parts for their guns.

And no TM's do not need to be upgraded. They shoot better in stock form than a lot of AEG's.

Lot of people told me they shoot under 300 fps out of the box. I also saw this a lot in the gun description when looking online for a TM

Anyway, as for the G18C lot of people recommanded me the KSC but new, it's now discontinued. It's sad, it's my favorite handgun.

Otherwise, where can i find a good brand G18C in a Canadian shop ? I prefer buy new to be honest.

Low FPS =/= Bad

However, given how hard it is to get a TM at a reasonable price, stick to other brands.

It's a pistol, it's for close encounters. TM pistols shoot fucking amazingly, the FPS means nothing.

I second that TM pistols are great right out of the box. TM pistols also have the most upgrade and custom parts available so if you get bored of it after a while you can spice things up with metal bodies and performance parts.

Well, if you're looking for a pistol to handle both propane and CO2, you should look into KJW pistols. Most of the pistols have the upgraded red nozzle which is meant for use with CO2.

Out of the box, I most KJW pistols will handle CO2 except the 226. All Hi-Capas, M9s and 1911s have CO2 mags available for them from KJW, and come with the upgraded red nozzle.

If you do proceed with a KJW, try to stay away from the ones with plastic lower frames, unless it's a 1911. The 1911 was designed with a metal interior chassis, which shouldn't break the plastic lower as easily.

TMs were not designed for CO2, if you choose to run CO2 on your TM, it will probably break prematurely in spectacular fashion.

I've never met a KJW anything that I've liked; and I'm not the only one. Avoid WE pistols as well.

Buy TM you won't be disappointed. Yes they are all polymer, but the quality is there. FPS won't play a huge part as your pistol is going to be a fifty to eighty foot weapon, and FPS will not help much with accuracy. A TM gun on duster gas will do the job. TM guns can be difficult to acquire, but not impossible.

KSC is another solid company, but they can be be a little harder to get.

KWA is the sister company to KSC. Their guns are solid and reliable; definitely how you want to go if your on a budget, and readily available in Canada. Some KWA guns are metal to begin with.

If you want really nice, look into RA-Tech custom. I believe they are all metal guns; at least the ones that are supposed to be. Some guns in their real steel form have polymer, carbon fibre, or non metal frames or slides; so keep that in mind while shopping around.

Yes, what's your point? That means nothing.

I have a KSC G23F instock right now if you're interested.

My point is i never upgraded an airsoft gun so ... TM are really great but are to find as far as i remember. I would go with a ksc g18c but they are discontinued. I really want a g18c, TM o KSC, but they are hard to find :(

TM pistols do not require any upgrading. They are of the best out of the box! They are also not as hard to find. You are age verified so they should not be this difficult for you to locate as you seem to suggest.

KWA makes a lot of 1911 MEUs that are easy to find and reasonably priced. I own a KWA and I like it. No problems and I've ran a lot of BBs thru it. I don't think you'll find any CO2 for it.

Why don't you search the retailer section, I bet there's a guy with shiny new TM & KSC Glock 18Cs in stock waiting just for you.

O.RLY? I'd pick a TM pistol over KSC anytime.

A)One that fits comfortably in your hands,
B)one that does not break your piggy bank
C)one that does not break after 1 game

I prefer buy new :/ i want to avoid problems at maximum

No one has suggested that you buy used.

Thanks guys for your advice ! I will definitely get a G18C, but i wonder which between KSC and TM. I know TM for quality, but i dont know if their all plastic body are as great as it seems. For sure i would but a metal slide on it.

So you're not sure about TM's plastic frame, but you're sure about KSC's plastic frame?

Not sure what you're trying to say.

Talking about the slide.

Anyway, fine. TM for the win.

But, who would be able to get one huh ? I see ehobbyasia have them in stock, can someone import it for me ? Or does a canadian retailer have one in stock ?

Everywhere i look it doesnt seems to be available, sadly

TM plastic slides are great. But yes you can easily find a metal slide to put on.

The confusion was there because you said "all plastic body".

I have 2 KWA pistols and compared to the 5 KJW (clear body) I've handled, I'd say my KWA were much more robust and fun to shoot.
Get something that fits well in your hands and to be honest, pistols aren't all that useful unless you're running GBB or a springer rifle. That money is better of buying you more mags for your SMG which are pretty expensive.

As I hinted at before there is a guy in the AV retailer section that has both TM and KSC Glock 18c's in stock "as we speak".

There's nothing wrong with a KSC glock, many people like them, some would even say they're better than a TM glock, they are of course, wrong. I had a KSC glock from brand new and it gave me nothing but problems. I've also spoken to guys that have had KSC glocks for years and love them. I've never had an issue with any of my TM guns, just saying.

The hop unit in a TM has a superior design and as a result it's more accurate. The only thing metal on a glock is the slide. If you want a metal slide a TM will cost you more but you will end up with a better pistol. Don't be weary, a slide is easy to change provided you get a brand that doesn't require modifying to fit. Higher FPS doesn't mean better or more accurate. A stronger recoil spring is required for the heavier metal slide, also very easy to do. More upgrade parts internal and external exist for a TM glock, this may become a concern of yours in the future.

Neither is a bad choice IMO, but one of them is a better choice. Get the one that works best for you.

edit **If you're afraid of repairs I would recommend against a full auto pistol, they tend to break much easier. I would tell you to get a 17.

umm since when are KSC 18Cs discontinued? For errbody out there, there is the Taiwan and the Japan version for KSC guns. Taiwan versions come with the metal slides usually. the Japanese ones don't. KSC 18Cs which are Japanese versions are discontinued yes but the Taiwan KSC still produces them with the metal slide. they are essentially the same thing since the japanese versions come with the ABS slide.

So no they are not discontinued. please specify properly if you do.

also a brief history of the difference of KWA and KSC for people saying that they are the same thing.... THEY ARE NOT

http://kwacentral.com/2012/05/11/a-b...n-ksc-and-kwa/

read and weep

on the note of KSC Glock series, they are extremely well made in my opinion obviously tho there are issues with both TM and KSC 18Cs due to the full auto function wearing down parts alot faster.

Ive owned both and even tho they are lots of fun, I wouldn't game it too hard. Ive had better luck with my KSC glock17 which only recently broke after 4 years of gaming and after i dropped it on the floor after and epic rambo last stand that i did and ended up smacking the wall very hard... anyway the point is after that the gun started going funky but that was due to brute force and years of gaming. even so the KSC 17 is a extremely robust gun and i highly recommend it. if u want budget go HK3P

Of course they're not the same company, but their guns are designed the same and take the same parts.

KJ KP-08 if you're into Hicapas. This is a SOLID gun and kicks strong. With the CO2 mag this can shoot up to 380fps.

Green gas mag ~ 300fps

Ken

Also .. it's off topic a lil bit but .. i can't find an Angry Gun QD MP7 Silencer or the VFC QD MP7 Silencer (they are the same, excepted Angry Gun have an inner barrel).

I heard that importing a silencer will result by being seized at customs. Where can i find one here in canada in stock ?

Just imported this suppressor a few weeks ago: http://www.ebairsoft.com/mp7a1-silen...er-p-4327.html for my MP7 to go with the Falcon 363mm barrel I snagged.

along side of choosing a good pistol, always always always- keep it clean and well maintained. I roll through sand with my KJW M9 Tactical, and it shoots perfectly the whole time! *minus the weird TM mag I got for it where it doesn't work properly*

This will be the same thing as the EB link; not as nice a graphic as the VFC but it fits fine.

http://airsoftdepot.ca/catalog/produ...roducts_id=974

I'd do a little more research if I were you. I too thought the same about the suppressors, now I own both.

I bought the suppressor without the tightbore installed in it and noticed it sent my bb's flying upward. Forcing me to re adjust my red dot. I also noticed afterwards that the more shots I fired in a row, made my aim more unpredictable. Not sure what was going on. I assume it has to do with the empty space inside the suppressor as the bb comes out. I even removed the foam and spring afterwards but no luck.

Later I then bought the angry gun suppressor with installed tightbore. I'm really impressed with it. I find it really accurate, aside to how it looks. Which reminds me, seems like angry gun also has the real H&K trades. My only complaint with this suppressor is that it wobbles a bit. And I mean very little and only when you're running around. But my issue is if you ever have the suppressor rested against a ledge while shooting, well.. You'll be shooting far over your target. I'm going to gut the suppressor and get a longer inner barrel for my mp7, long enough so that it just stays hidden by the AG suppressor. I can't have things wobble and sacrifice aim for looks..

Hope that helps.