Your Teeth
 

Hello everyone I've noticed a fair share of people dont wear lower face protection . I have a question for all who dont arent you worried about your teeth chipping or what ever .. I'd like to wear a keffiyeh around my face to get a better look down my sights .. i wear a paintball mask i have been bending it but its still not the same

Are you not worried / just take a risk
Have you been shot in the mouth area?
Will a keffiyeh stop chipping ?
Do you just keep your mouth closed?
Any close calls
What do you wear ?


Me personally im too worried about spitting out my two front teeth

Ideally I'd like to wear just goggles and a keffiyeh is this enough
Im also worried im a aggressive player closing the distance that I'd get a point blank shot to the mouth


Thoughs, comments.

I don't wear any lower face protection, I accept the risk and keep my mouth closed to help prevent it happening. The only time I wear any is indoor games, and it is simple a 4" pentagonal mouth protector. I have had several close calls, hole in my nose, fat lips, a couple bbs in the mouth, I still prefer no lower face protection.

Not much except a mesh lower protector will fully protect. There have been several instances of a mouth guard (boxing/hockey style) of merely containing the broken teeth.

A problem with balaclavas/shemaghs/keffiyeh for teeth protection is the fogging issues cause by the moisture in your breath being pushed up into the goggles/glasses.

You can cut down the cheek/chin area of yer pb mask to allow aiming down the sites but itll make it easyer for bbs to get in from the side or u can try
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There prety low profile

Two teeth chipped so far myself, and I know at least four others who've suffered the same. Not one of us wears some kind of face protection except eye wear to this day. It is a risk obviously, but one you must except. There are non interruptive mouth guards now, if you are interested.

I keep my mouth closed. I've been shot in the lip once but since I kept my mouth closed my teeth are fine.

I never wore more than goggles until I had one of my teeth shot clean out at 20m from an AEG shooting sub 300fps. I would highly recommend wearing lower face protection at all times. Some masks don't come down very far and are easier to aim with.

from what I heard on this thread just keep your mouths .. so for those who got chipped teeth were you speaking when you got shot or what?

The first one I was breathing heavy from running around. The AEG that shot me was about 100 - 120 feet out shooting 360 FPS on 0.20g BBs, but running 0.25s. The BB was a ricochet off the ground if you can believe it.

The second was from an AEG about 25 - 30 feet away shooting around 380 FPS with 0.20g BBs, and running 0.25g rounds. My mouth was closed, but it split my lower lip and chipped my tooth anyway.

There is no denying that it is a risk. Keeping your mouth closed is not a guarantee of any kind. I don't wear face protection for easier breathing, non fogging eyewear, and being able to properly shoot my gun.

I have dentures and so dont give a shit

Yes. Sometimes / Yes. Sometimes
Yes
No. Think about it! It's just fabric that BB's can penetrate.
Sometimes
Yes
Nothing - mesh lower

Nothing is more canadian than chipping or loosing a tooth while playing a sport!

So far the chipped teeth I saw first hand came from being hit at a weird angle. Chipped a guy's tooth by shooting at him from below through bushes and threes. And another that was being shot from above and a BB bounced off a cement floor or a gun. In both case, peeking was part of the problem.

Still, I can't see myself wearing a full mesh mask outside. I do indoors.

In cqb fields it should be mandatory. I am hosting games in Mtl and since an accident happened a month ago and a guy lost half his front teeth. Face mask are now mandatory and IMO the metal mesh one is the best (see my signature pic). In cqb with G18C and the like at very close range, it is asking for trouble. You hear the muzzle report and BANG there goes your teeth ! It's not like outside when the distance of engagement is greater

You sir just made my day.

I've got 2 crowns, they're as painful as they are expensive lol
I wear my M40 gas mask in cqb, still nothing in the field, but I do tend to hide my mouth behind my optics lol

any face protection will fog you to death except mesh.
mesh for success, mesh is fresh.
mesh lower are easy to tie to tac goggles and they're deformable, and concave to fit properly on the gun's stock.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...666/mesh01.jpg

and you can still wear a shemag on top of it if you want.

I cut my paintball mask just below the googles and reattached it with some elastic (my wife's hair elastics to be exact). The lower pushes out enough for me to sight down my gun and stays in the stock position the rest of the time. While the lower is pushed a couple centimetres to the side by sighting my teeth are still covered.

I have been shot in the teeth once with a PTW running a gold cylinder....taken a few others off the face, but still no lower face protection. Haven't lost any teeth or chipped any.

The mouth guard idea has crossed my mind from time to time.

During this critical juncture while you are being actively shot at Please demonstrate how you call your HITS while mouth is tightly closed against incoming BB's?

If you play with out tooth protection you knowingly run the risk of Chipping your teeth, $400+ of repair and suffering a root Canal for removal and replacement of your Chompers $2500+

I Hosted a game, wore a Shemagh, and had my tooth shot out. Lucky for the $350 repair bill and my wife let me keep playing. Many players get dragged out after a financial hit like that. Spend the $20. or wait for your dentist to give you the bill.

yeah right. like once a year if that... :rolleyes:

:D

I wear the above posted by Jimski and love it.

I made one of the mesh straps a velcro strap so i can realease the mask to talk etc during safety brief and between games and also to drink.

Notice the Velcro on the right cheek on the above photo.

im far too good looking to risk losing teeth. If i was ugly i suppose missing a few teeth wouldnt change much.

theres no depth to my shallowness

ALWAYS protect your teeth. Should be a no-brainer! A 15-20 dollar steel mesh mask will save you hundreds/thousands in the long run!

ive gotten a chipped tooth through a closed mouth before. i guess the bb hit me in a good spot and went between my lips. so its not perfect protection, but it helps.

going to try wearing a mask all this season though.

This is pretty much exactly my setup and it works well.

The one thing a lot of these "should I protect myself fully or not" threads miss is the effect it has on the person who chipped your teeth / hurt your eye / broke your gun / etc.

The older and more financially-independent players amongst us need to take special care when making public recommendations to players who are either younger or less financially able to cover dental bills or less able to weather calamities that might disrupt their lives outside of airsoft. In addition, some of the younger players may have parents who may have a very different view on a chipped tooth than the actual player.

http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread....intball+nation

Actually that was in 2006.
Before you came along and started showing us old guys how to do it.
lol.

Maybe I play without protecton so I'll eventually have a reason to wear braces. Maybe I'm just too hideous a creature to care? Who knows? I'm not an astroneuroloist.

The bottom line is this:
- if you are worried about it, do something about it.

Things that work:
- tie a shemag around your face (folded up in layers...one layer of cloth won't do much)
- use a PB mask
- use a mesh mask
- use part of a mask
- use a mouth guard

I don't know much else that you can do.

Personal opinion
- getting your teeth shot out is a real risk...won't happen with every hit, won't not happen on a dumb-luck shot
- it does not have to be a hard shot
- keeping your mouth closed doesn't do it...I've had one push through and I ended up swallowing it
- avoid the games that are spray-fest skirmishes without adequate protection...there's just so many shots flying around that the risks go up fast. I don't enjoy those games anyways.

That's BS to some extent. The guy asking is the one asking/concerned...he asked the public for an opinion, he got them. It's up to him to filter through that an apply it to his needs/wants/situation/etc...

If we were to filter advice so as to sure to potentially please his mom...then the advice should be, "Don't play".

hey jeroon, who's that skinny dude in the pick?

That dude is two years or so after the shop opened.

This dude had no worries about getting teeth shot out.
But It happened anyway.
If it had happened in 2004 or early 05 I wouldn't be in Airsoft anymore.

I don't know why you would ask this question when thousands of bbs are flying around during a game at 400fps and more for a sniper rifle. You would think that would be common sense.

I wear lower face protection and still have all my teeth.

My friend didn't. He lost a tooth which his dental bill came to $2000 for an implant. The following year his lip was shot open and the bb still chipped another tooth.

Thank you for all the response..Got plenty of answers to my questions

Just keeping your mouth closed
Are Keffiyehs being good enough
etc

I already has a paintball which is more then enough protection
But yet looking down the iron sights (getting better bending the mask)
And looking down at mag pouches not being to fully see them (currently cutting away mask)



No point for buying new face protection for the time being

So moral is for the people that dont play with lower protection there is a good chance your going to the dentist

If I do go Lense and Mesh I guess ill just put my veil over the lower mesh to still give it that look

I just notice the tons and tons of people playing without lower face protection and ponder

This question has been asked numerous times before. My response:
How much do you value your face and teeth?
If the answer is very low, go without face pro
If the answer is medium or high go with some form of face protection.
keffiyeh AFAIK are soft clothing, it's not going to absorb any energy.
Having your mouth close is probably not going to works too well (if it hits you >1J impact velocity) your skin and transfer energy.

Lower face mask is probably the best. The lower steel face mask puts your face about 1/3" higher. So if you are running those 1/3 co witness, you are good to go. If you are running ACOG, put the ACOG on carry handle.

Best....Answer...Ever!!

Here's a good one. One if our friends that attended Operation: Mason Relic IIII got a BB lodged a few "inches" into his tongue. Straight in from the tip as well....

I used to use the mesh lower and goggles, but have switched to one of these
http://www.airsoftpark.com/images/KO...Mask-Black.JPG

I cut the eyes and forehead out, basically making it a lower only. Put a few holes in the mask for air. It feels better on my face than one of those small mesh masks, The bigger mesh masks might feel better comfort wise but Im trying to get away from bigger.

Im always on the hunt for something better, but until then.

Looks like plastic, so I wonder if it would be sufficient. Have you done any testing with it, to see if it can withstand a shot close? (like 20 or so feet)

Your low profile mesh mask that covers just enough is pretty nice.

Considering that I thought I lost a mesh mask and bought a replacement, then found the original, going to chop one up like yours and Barry's.

It's most likely neoprene, and yes, I've witnessed these break from close range. However, it's still better than nothing.

ive gamed it a few times, and one time at splatters indoors took like 6 shots off the face it was fine

I tried wearing the mesh face mask once and it was good. But I run a Comtac style headset and it made me uncomfortable so I ended up taking it off. Keep my mouth shut when outdoors and I wear the mesh for indoors since I don't need my radio or headset

that was my problem too. When you get the goggles, the headset and a lower mask all on, its way too much on your head, too many straps. Ive since switched over to using a simple small around the ear clip style headset. Really helps on keeping it light.
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I purchased one of these about four years back. Found that it was very uncomfortable around the eyes, and that it aggrivated goggle fogging. Decided to line the eye holes with memory foam to increase the comfort. Not only did this make the mask more wearable, it also completely sealed the goggles off from most of the moisture! I now have a setup that refuses to fog, no matter what the circumstances. Almost time to replace the foam, though...
The masks (at least mine) are made of fiberglass. They will take some hits, but I would be cautious of them in cold weather. You know what they say about getting into an accident with a Corvette in the winter... ;)

Louis

Truthfully, this.

I don't know if this was a joke or not, but I actually have dentures from well before getting into this sport (Got them when I was 22), so chipping a tooth of loosing one is not an issue. For the prices people are saying here I can get my whole mouth re-done on what it costs some of you to replace 1-2 teeth.

I am actually more worried about swallowing a bb then anything else. I just don't think that will be fun.

What kind of goggles are these/where can I get some? They look like they work very we'll with the half mesh lower. I know you can get the lower from pretty much anywhere, but I'd really like to try these goggles. Thank you

Bolle T-800's but I don't see the Bolle logo, so possibly clones. Beware, these goggles aren't true full seal. They may seal to your face, but there is a gap between that seal and the actual lens which BB's have been known to get past. I have also had the lenses knocked loose off of the frames of real bolle's.

I use a paintball style airsoft mask for indoor play since I like the extra protect when that close. I find the iron sights on my UMP IMPOSSIBLE to use well useing it. Luckily a Red-Dot and Rail Riser fixed that in a jiffy.

Sometime it's better to tailor your gear around your protection, then the protection around your gear. Just my 2cents.

(Outdoors is googles+Mesh mask. I like to protect my pearly whites thank you very much.)

Dont wear a mouth guard never have never will. Had half a tooth shot out 2 years ago. Chipped a tooth last year. 100% dental coverage is awesome.