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kylem_8 January 18th, 2013 14:45

G&G PDW99 (P90) Review
 
G&G PDW99 (P90)

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Firstly I must say that I have handled and shot the Echo1/ KS P90, Classic Army P90, and Tokyo Marui P90. The build quality of the G&G PDW99 (P90) hands down beats the aformentioned brands. (I have yet to get my hands on a King Arms P90). There is not a single part of this gun that rattles around (even if you furiously shake it).

Another thing to note on this gun is the upper receiver. The machining on it could be improved but I may just be too picky. For anyone who has ever owned the Classic Army P90, they know that it is very front heavy and actually starts to hurt your wrist after any sort of extended gameplay. The G&G PDW99 is nearly balanced with the weight going ever so slightly to the rear(only noticable if you one hand the gun). TM's and Echo 1's/ KS never really had this issue due to either having a plastic receiver or cheap pot metal. It also comes with a steel flash hider and steel cocking lever that is supported by a stiff spring (unlike KS).

The Green Dot Sight is actually disappointing and is the biggest flaw to this gun. It is not nearly bright enough for outdoor use and is off centre to the view window. (This does not really bother me too much as I planned on buying the aftermarket RIS for RDS P90's anyways. But this is just something that cannot be ignored (shame on you G&G, I expected better. However with this said, the RDS on the Classic Army was garbage too...)

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The body of the gun feels less plasticy than the other brands listed above too and the texture just feels right. The seems are fairly tight almost everywhere except for a few locations near the butt of the gun. The butt plate is smooth plastic and I would have preferred to see it come with a rubberized finish.

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The integrated Laser is a Class 2 <1mw red laser. (I know, I was hoping for the civilian legal <3mw too but that was really just wishful thinking). This laser is fully adjustable though and to be honest, it's actually quite decent in the light (though dont expect to use it outside on a sunny day but inside a building, go for it!)

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The magazine seems to almost be a Tokyo Marui. It is missing the one bullet that appears as if it's going into the chamber and the trademarks are not as pronounced to that of a TM. The pictures below show the differences between the Tokyo Marui Magazine (Top), and the G&G Magazine (Bottom).

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Now you are probably wondering about what battery will fit into the gun. Very simple, I have put an 11.1v 1100mAh 15C, and a 9.6v Nunchuck style battery successfully into the gun. Please note that a Brick style battery will NOT fit!

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We cannot ignore the awesome FPS adjustable gearbox! (this is one of its biggest and best features!) Though I have yet to do a chrono test I have researched that you are looking at an FPS between 330-390. Because this is G&G's TOPTECH line, it obviously comes with a 6.04mm tighbore already installed! However, I have taken that out and installed a PDI 6.01mm 249mm tighbore because in my experience, PDI makes THE BEST innerbarrels on the market (albeit, the most expensive haha)

Overall, this gun is a must have for ANYONE who loves the P90 and demands the highest quality with some very cool features. I know I did not dive into the gearbox but I will leave that for someone else to show you.(Atleast for now).

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itiloh January 18th, 2013 15:08

Damn sexy... Any feeding issues with the mags?

kylem_8 January 19th, 2013 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by itiloh (Post 1748418)
Damn sexy... Any feeding issues with the mags?

No not really. maybe 2 per mag. But remember, DO NOT FILL THE MAG COMPLETELY!!! This goes for all brands of P90 mags but if you fill it completely then you will have problems.

BoleroDan January 27th, 2013 10:17

I've been waiting for this brand P90 for a while. Did you pick up this up at your local shop?

Also great review, I appreciate.

itiloh February 4th, 2013 18:17

Mine arrived today. The green dot sight is definitely disappointing.

BoleroDan February 6th, 2013 22:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by itiloh (Post 1756210)
Mine arrived today. The green dot sight is definitely disappointing.


Does it look like you can detatch the dot sight from the upper? I know there is a piece you can replace most built in RDS on P90s to give a top rail so you can buy your own RDS.

itiloh February 6th, 2013 22:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoleroDan (Post 1757458)
Does it look like you can detatch the dot sight from the upper? I know there is a piece you can replace most built in RDS on P90s to give a top rail so you can buy your own RDS.

From looking at the parts of G&G and TM versions, looks like they are the same so you can. Do you know a place where I can get a replacement RDS? I've been looking for the TM RDS (since it seems to be the only RDS that is good enough to be used) but I only found one place that sells it and it's out of stock.

PrIeSt February 6th, 2013 22:42

Sorry is it quick change?

jordan7831 February 6th, 2013 23:24

thanks for the review

itiloh February 7th, 2013 00:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrIeSt (Post 1757474)
Sorry is it quick change?

It looks like only 2 hex screws need to be unscrewed to detach the whole RDS unit. So yes. But I don't wanna try it just yet since I have it pretty well zeroed in right now.

kylem_8 February 7th, 2013 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordan7831 (Post 1757489)
thanks for the review

No problem

Quote:

Originally Posted by itiloh (Post 1757501)
It looks like only 2 hex screws need to be unscrewed to detach the whole RDS unit. So yes. But I don't wanna try it just yet since I have it pretty well zeroed in right now.

That's all it is. it's extremely easy to remove the RDS

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrIeSt (Post 1757474)
Sorry is it quick change?

yes and no. You can completely change the spring if you want but you can also adjust the FPS using that spring by compessing/ decompressing the spring. So with my set up right now, I can adjust somewhere between 365-425FPS with the same spring (thats because i have a PDI 6.01mm tightbore barrel which is why the FPS is higher)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoleroDan (Post 1757458)
Does it look like you can detatch the dot sight from the upper? I know there is a piece you can replace most built in RDS on P90s to give a top rail so you can buy your own RDS.

Yes, I have just received the upper rail to replace the shitty RDS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by itiloh (Post 1757469)
From looking at the parts of G&G and TM versions, looks like they are the same so you can. Do you know a place where I can get a replacement RDS? I've been looking for the TM RDS (since it seems to be the only RDS that is good enough to be used) but I only found one place that sells it and it's out of stock.

Why yes I do. Tokyo Model Company sells them... shipped it was $80.... pretty expensive but well worth it if you actually want to keep all the cool features that G&G offers but have a usable gun for the field.

THe_Silencer February 7th, 2013 03:14

How are the internals?

kylem_8 February 7th, 2013 03:56

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Originally Posted by THe_Silencer (Post 1757542)
How are the internals?

to be honest... the only internals i have seen with this gun is the awesome metal ball bearing spring guide. But since this is G&G's TOP TECH line, I would imagine that the internals are at the same quality.

BoleroDan February 8th, 2013 13:57

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Originally Posted by kylem_8 (Post 1757509)
No problem

Yes, I have just received the upper rail to replace the shitty RDS.


Awesome. Do you mind saying where you picked up the piece?

Thanks!

thatdarnwolf February 8th, 2013 16:32

Thanks for the review. I've gotten my hands on one to take a look at, and my feelings on it were pretty much spot on with your summary. The biggest uncertainty for me was having never handled any other manufacturer's models, I had no comparison to place it against.

kylem_8 February 8th, 2013 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoleroDan (Post 1758237)
Awesome. Do you mind saying where you picked up the piece?

Thanks!

Tokyo Model Company sells them... shipped it was $80.... pretty expensive but well worth it if you actually want to keep all the cool features that G&G offers but have a usable gun for the field.

blam89 February 13th, 2013 03:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylem_8 (Post 1757509)
Yes, I have just received the upper rail to replace the shitty RDS.

Where did you get this rail? I've been looking to replace my RDS with a rail as well!

kylem_8 February 14th, 2013 05:49

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Originally Posted by blam89 (Post 1760153)
Where did you get this rail? I've been looking to replace my RDS with a rail as well!

Look at the post directly above yours...

SuperCriollo February 14th, 2013 10:33

DMZ Paintball in St Catharines has them in stock, if you're looking for one.

BoleroDan February 22nd, 2013 11:50

I just got mine in, love it.

question though. Do you happen to have or have tried third party P90 mags on it? I have two Echo1 P90 mags, and they dont seem to fire consistently. I think it has to do with the little tab on the mag that gets pressed, allow the BBs to move into the gun, but it doesnt get pressed down all the way, so I have to hold pressure on top of the mag for the BBs to feed.

A bit disappointing. I havnt heard anything about G&G P90 mags being sold separately either.

Also, im having issues with batteries fitting all the way. The Lipo I bought sticks a bit too high to allow the back cover to slide on. What brand is your Lipo?

kylem_8 February 22nd, 2013 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoleroDan (Post 1764266)
I just got mine in, love it.

question though. Do you happen to have or have tried third party P90 mags on it? I have two Echo1 P90 mags, and they dont seem to fire consistently. I think it has to do with the little tab on the mag that gets pressed, allow the BBs to move into the gun, but it doesnt get pressed down all the way, so I have to hold pressure on top of the mag for the BBs to feed.

A bit disappointing. I havnt heard anything about G&G P90 mags being sold separately either.

Also, im having issues with batteries fitting all the way. The Lipo I bought sticks a bit too high to allow the back cover to slide on. What brand is your Lipo?

I use TM P90 Mags. you have to make sure that you do not fill the magazine all way way or you will have that issue. My mags feed perfectly now that I dont fill them to capastiy. but I had this issue when I owned the KS P90 too, so it's not specific to just the G&G version of the P90.

As for the battery, I use an 11.1v 1100mAh 15c HOT POWER wired to deans connectors. I got it from airsoftdepot for a great price. highly recommend picking them up as they also fit inside an M4 buffer tube :)

Dasright March 10th, 2013 03:40

I know I'm kind of bumping a dormant thread but I have a question directed to the OP:

Have you ever held G&G's FN F2000? If you have, is the polymer on the F2000 comparable to the polymer/plastic on the G&G P90?

I like the F2000's reinforced polymer, it's very strong and has no flex. I was hoping G&G used the same polymer in their P90. My current KS P90 has feeding issues and the I am not a fan of the ABS plastic used or the pot metal upper reciever.

kylem_8 March 12th, 2013 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dasright (Post 1770703)
I know I'm kind of bumping a dormant thread but I have a question directed to the OP:

Have you ever held G&G's FN F2000? If you have, is the polymer on the F2000 comparable to the polymer/plastic on the G&G P90?

I like the F2000's reinforced polymer, it's very strong and has no flex. I was hoping G&G used the same polymer in their P90. My current KS P90 has feeding issues and the I am not a fan of the ABS plastic used or the pot metal upper reciever.

I have held the G&G F2000 but it was so long ago I can't remember the build quality of it. I can guarentee you that the body on the G&G P90 is MUCH better than the KS P90.

T[]RK April 17th, 2013 15:56

I am not a big fan of AEG in general, but this laser...

I want to share some info from "real steel" P90 Manual for this review. ;)

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the_monkey April 17th, 2013 19:06

the polymer in the g&g pdw 99 and the G&G fn2000 are the same. dissapointed by the pdw 99...massively disappointed.

the laser isnt that powerful and the green dot sight is horrific in anything but total darkness.

Styrak April 17th, 2013 19:58

What about the laser?

T[]RK April 19th, 2013 14:49

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Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 1785573)
What about the laser?

What your mean?

Oh, i got it. By saying "but this laser..." i mean it's rare to see "build-in" laser on P90 replica. I saw only several on DEN Trinity (which was custom made). So, i think G&G is first who did it in serial model. ALSO, FNH count models with laser and models without it as two separate lower receivers. Same with Red Dot Upper Receiver.


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