The Aimpoint vs. EOTech Thread
 

If you were forced to pick one brand that you would be limited to and unable to purchase or use the other ever again... Which would it be? You would be allowed to use any and all products offered by the brand.

You may cite whatever reason you wish. It is that you prefer red dots over holographic sights? Don't like the reticle of one over the other? Like/dislike the look? They are all acceptable answers. What is yours?

Neither waiting for the new Trijicon sight. Depends on what your planning on using it for. Quick multiple target acquisition and precision shooting probably a Aimpoint just because the sight is clear of the excess reticle and doesn't mess up your sight picture. In a CQB setting I find its easier to use an Eotech.

I tried EOtechs and found the sight picture distracting; the reticule is too busy for how I use it. I like scout mounting optics (mounted forward on the gun), its very quick, but the EOtech didn't work well for me that way.

Aimpoints are simple and just do what they're supposed to.

I hate holosights... I find their field of vision awful.

Though I voted for ironisights because they never run out of batteries >:[

I used EOtech for many years. For the last year I have been using an Aimpoint.

I prefer the aimpoint over the eotech.

The Eotech eat batteries like crazy compared to the aimpoint. I had an eotech fail on me and had to get a replacement battery compartment. Very annoying.

The aimpoint is a nice piece of kit overall. And it is not made in the USA.

Have both, not impressed by either will stick with my specter with my acog close second

+1 on the specter.

Really? I've left my eotech on by accident for a week and a half and it was still working when I found out it was on.

Real Aimpoint it'll still be on after 5 years...

Will you save $400 in batteries? =D
I prefer the spectre DR now that I've used it, but for cqb...
I guess I just usually visualize where my gun shoots within 30ft, don't even use sights
But if I HAD to pick, COMP M4 for sure

Well RS to RS there isn't much difference to price. If you are comparing clones, the clone EoTech is nothing like the RS one as they are not actuallly holographic, and clone Aimpoint usually works quite well....

IMO both have advantage over Specter or ACOG with them being unlimited eye relief.

Clone aimpoints are indeed superior to clone eotech in all aspect. Agreed on the advantages of unlimited eye relief but once you reach pass 100 meters your aimpoint and eotech become more of a hindrance than an aid... even with the magnifier. Where when using the specter I switch to 4X when sighting to 200+ and the reticules DBC deals with drop.. the only backdraw I can find on the specter is that it weighs a fucking ton. Of course this does not affect anything for airsoft but for service rifle......

Of course when you are reaching out to touch something it becomes a different story...thats why they designate Aimpoint as a Close Combat Optic....

I would choose Aimpoint over Eotech if you're talking Red Dot vs Holosight ...

But Eotech has L3 Warrior behind them... and if you mean as a company, I would take all of the goodies at L3 Warrior over every single product at Aimpoint.

Aimpoint optics are also much easier to protect the lens, ARDs are part of their line up and for airsoft, this is highly important.

In my experience I have owned a repo aimpoint, RS ACOG and RS Eotech.

Aimpoint was good for close distances, but I found the dot too small for longer engagments. There is also no comparison to the RS optics.

I have used a RS Eotech for a few years now and I love it. The ring of the holosight gives me a good point reference on the impact of the bb. If it's curving due to wind and/or range, I just aim with the outer ring and I know I will hit my target. The only down side would be the glass on the optic, but they regularly sell lens protectors now and you can make your own pretty easy.

Having used both real and clone Eotechs. The aimpoint is much better. I find them to be much clearer and sharper. Though clone aimpoints just eat batteries right up.

I wonder how the survey would look if Don't use sights was an option
Assuming people would answer honestly

i like EOTech, but I haven't used a real aimpoint at all, so I can't really say with much authority. Eotech is awesome, simply because it is very simple , and I like having the extra points of reference on the ring. I also like that I can mount it wherever I want, and as long as you can see part of it, it'll be on target, and visible.

I've been using Aimpoints (real and clone) for almost 10 years now. I really wanted to like the Eotech, so much so that I went out and bought a real one, but when I went out to try to use it, I hated the distracting ring and large dot.

I can see it being very useful in CQB environments where you don't really need the precision of the dot.

Why do I care if its on for 5 years? I just use rechargeable AA's it only needs to last me a 24 hour milsim or a day shooting at the range and that's all I care about. Do you need it to last you a whole deployment? Go for the Trijicon SRS it has a solar panel...

It's just a feature that the other optics don't have, and something that you don't have to do before/after every game.

Clones = Aimpoint
Real = EOTech
AK/Pistol/SAW/MP5 = Irons

For all clone stuff

Favourite...irons
2nd...Aimpoint T1
3rd...Aimpoint M3/4

Too many iffy experiences with ghosting/not-consistent adjusted/shaken to death EOtech's. They look cooler though...

If I had money to spend on one real RDS...Micro T1

Look at you trying to sneak off with a GPNVG...

Why must you attempt to break my thread?

Or they might not answer at all. I'm just attributing iron sights to the people who don't use optics at all, or maybe use a different brand of optic.

It's all useful information.

They are not selling it to airsofter, they are selling it to RS shooter. The idea is you don't have to ever turn it off. For a defense gun you just pick it up and its there, and for soldier its one less thing to worry about in the field...And a T1 is still $400+ cheaper than a SRS....

No sights! Hipfire like a douchebag in the dark!

I've used Elcans, Docters, Trijicon's, Eotech's, Aimpoints and a shortdot.

Aimpoint vs Eotech,

Eotech wins. It has a 1moa dot and a 65moa ring vs a 2moa dot provided by Aimpoint (T1 Micro). That may not mean much for airsoft, but it apparently means a lot when you're killing things between 0-600 meters.

I Love the Aimpoint T1, it's light, durable and really sexy. However considering it is just an RDS, and not a holographic sight - the holographic sight will always be a more efficient class of product.

Aside from different reticle design, how do you arrive at that conclusion? They work in basically the same fashion(to end user, not how the actual sight function), both are parallax free...I've read Eotech is brighter(as in the view is not tinted), but a 30mm Aimpoint(as in not T1) are pretty damn bright(T1 being smaller, looks darker), this is coming from using RS T1 and ML3.

I can see a 1MOA center will be better relatively to a 2-4 MOA dot that Aimpoint typically comes with. But at 600 meters, you are still looking at 6". Not exactly a precision shot(well its still twice as good as a 2MOA)...Hitting a 600m target on a non-magnified optic is going to be a difficult challenge anyway....

Love the Aimpoint CompM4S, takes AA batteries aka "the one find everywhere".
If I want to do range I just slap a magnifier on FTS mount.

The T1 I don't like very much, too narrow for my taste.

Aimotech. Eopoint.

I totally agree. Personally I really like T1's. The reason why Aimpoint did not win the socom contract was because the MOA fell short. For you and I this isn't really a big issue, but I guess to the special operations community it was enough to favour the slightly heavier doughnut of death over the dot of destruction. I find I get a better sight picture with a T1, however because of the 65moa ring to 1moa dot, the holographic point seems faster for target acquisition.

I was saddened to see the T1's not getting the military exposure they deserve, as it is a brilliant optic. Considering how hard those guys run their gear, and the operational tempo they maintain, there were probably many other reasons to pick one over the other.

I preffer clone aimpoints over clone eotechs due to the fact that clone aimpoints are at least using the same system that the design is for where clone eotechs are traditional redot sights crammed in a holo sight shell.

In the end, for airsoft I tend to only use redots when playing in low light as I have bad eyes and can't pick up magnified optics or iron sights without light. During daylight however, Iron sights are just as fast for me as reflex sights are.

Aimpoint.

Long battery life, 3rd party mounting options, and it's not ITAR restricted since Aimpoint is Swedish... meaning if it ever goes tits up, I can send it in for work. Also enjoy the ability to roll my palm on the dial and change the intensity quickly.

Aimpoint's are on the ITAR munitions list. If you buy one in the US, it is subject to ITAR, luckily we don't need to buy them from the states hehe.
Hell, Elcan Specter DR's are also on the ITAR list even though they are made in Canada!

Always loved this feature, its so fast for adjustments. Though, I was really happy to see that on the Eotech EXPS units, the buttons now have this really nice tactile "click" to them.

True, I meant in terms of servicing. If I buy a EoTech in Canada, and it dies, I'm screwed since I can't send it back to EoTech... Aimpoint however...

The funniest ITAR I've ever seen is a company that refused to sell a Canadian made CADEX grip to Canadians.

ITAR is a tricky thing, sometimes the Canadian made products are on contract to a different country, and although made in Canada... they can only be sold in said country.

Fear not! you can send ITAR products purchased in Canada back to companies such as L3 for servicing. For example, if you purchase an Eotech from Wolverine supplies. Wolverines will ship it to and from L3 for you. They were legally exported from the US, and thus their serial numbers are tied to exportation paperwork signed and authorized by the state department.

You can even send your Aimpoint back to Aimpoint in the US if the original optic came from their distribution and was legally purchased in Canada, although it is easier to directly send it overseas (Might end up there anyways!)

:)

Aimpoint -one of the few things the US Army did it right....
Camoflage -> Failed
Using Carbine and standard rifle -> Failed
Using 5.56 despite being ineffective with shorter barrel -> Failed
Waste money on 5.56 carbine only to cancel it->Failed

Iron sights because nothing to shoot out or fail. Just point and shoot just like my sidearm.

Outdoors, just trace the bbs in the flight path. Indoors, the flashlight makes the bb path visible.

They're making an airsoft SRS version as we speak. Also the SRS is $200 more than a t1 don't know where your getting your numbers.

Do the Aimpoints have the NV capability?

Yep.

I voted EOTech, by the way... Still regretting selling mine few years back.

I've never used an Aimpoint, but I love my Faux-Tech EOTech, so that's what I voted.

As a paperweight, I'd have to say Eotech. Nothing beats it's flat, balances design when on a desk or table top. It'll never fall, or tip over either; and paperweights don't need very much accuracy, so the Eotech fits right in there.

As far as weapon sites go Aimpoint has my vote. I have an M series (real steel) on my PTW, and it's awesome all around.

For "extreme" CQB I'd say Eotech over Aimpiont, but then I'd probably use iron sights or something different altogether.

I've seen T1 go from $450-$650, SRS go from $850 to almost $1000....Also, airsoft version of most non-magnified sights are just a RDS with different body, they rarely shares their RS counterpart's characteristic. SRS's big selling point over an Aimpoint or a EoTech is solar power with battery backup(long-ish battery life also), and a big 38mm glass for bright sight picture. Airsoft version won't likely have the solar power, battery life will be shit, and ther glass will be lower grade and it'll just look dark. In the end its just heavier RDS...

I voted Iron sights, because if they aren't enough for airsoft you should probably go to an eye doctor.
If you are looking for that certain look then iron sights won't be enough.

Irons only work if your airsoft gun is accurate, but I know what your saying. A proper sight can improve your shooting, even on an airsoft gun.

Personally I am going to pick Aimpoint but only by a small margin. I actually prefer the Eotech reticle and how a true holo sight works but just out of the pure simpleness and durability of an Aimpoint, it's my choice.

One of the big deciding factors for me is also the battery life on the Aimpoints, you can leave them on all year and not even have to worry about the batteries. Simply change them on a set date every year and you will be good for life. Sure that my not be necessary but why not.

If I had a choice of optic it would probably be an Aimpoint CompM3 in a LaRue LT150 mount. A very close second would be an EOTech EXPS3.

Oh yeah, I like irons too. Just not as much as a nice optic.;)